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  • gigiG Offline
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    gigi
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    I connected a display arduino mega with a NRF24L01 radio module.

    I have power problems. I would like power radio with external 3.3v power supply.

    I tried to connect 3.3 volts from a second Arduino but the radio does not work.

    someone made a separate power supply for the radio?

    Thank

    Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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    • gigiG gigi

      I connected a display arduino mega with a NRF24L01 radio module.

      I have power problems. I would like power radio with external 3.3v power supply.

      I tried to connect 3.3 volts from a second Arduino but the radio does not work.

      someone made a separate power supply for the radio?

      Thank

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      RJ_Make
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      @gigi What kind of problems did you have when connected to the Mega's 3.3v pin?

      RJ_Make

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        No problem connecting different power supplies, but often finicky components don't like having separate grounds. Connect the ground of everything together and see how it works.

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        • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

          @gigi What kind of problems did you have when connected to the Mega's 3.3v pin?

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          @ServiceXp said:

          @gigi What kind of problems did you have when connected to the Mega's 3.3v pin?

          does not transmit the data. sketch hangs after send data

          @pete1450 said:

          No problem connecting different power supplies, but often finicky components don't like having separate grounds. Connect the ground of everything together and see how it works.

          I try tomorrow

          I will keep you updated.

          I put together a radio rfm12b, a NRF24L01 and a display 128x64

          Thank

          Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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          • gigiG gigi

            @ServiceXp said:

            @gigi What kind of problems did you have when connected to the Mega's 3.3v pin?

            does not transmit the data. sketch hangs after send data

            @pete1450 said:

            No problem connecting different power supplies, but often finicky components don't like having separate grounds. Connect the ground of everything together and see how it works.

            I try tomorrow

            I will keep you updated.

            I put together a radio rfm12b, a NRF24L01 and a display 128x64

            Thank

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            RJ_Make
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            @gigi Is there anything else connected to the 3.3v pin? If not, have you tried installing a cap (I have to use 47uf) on the radio across Vcc and GND?

            RJ_Make

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              I had to use a step down from 5V to get stable 3.3v power on the mega.

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              • hekH hek

                I had to use a step down from 5V to get stable 3.3v power on the mega.

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                @hek said:

                I had to use a step down from 5V to get stable 3.3v power on the mega.

                unfortunately I did not step down to try!!!!

                With PC USB Arduino Mega does not start the radio.

                the system only works when I put an external power supply to VIN on Arduino Mega.

                Schema-Elettrico-Termostato-Mysensos_bb.jpg

                after 2 or 3 hours arduino crashes!!!

                Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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                  This is the sketch arduino

                  emon_mysensors.ino

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                  • gigiG gigi

                    This is the sketch arduino

                    emon_mysensors.ino

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                    RJ_Make
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                    @gigi Wow, that's a lot of "stuff" on that 3.3v rail. I think that's your problem... What kind of current are you pulling on that rail when the radio is transmitting.?

                    RJ_Make

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                    • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                      @gigi Wow, that's a lot of "stuff" on that 3.3v rail. I think that's your problem... What kind of current are you pulling on that rail when the radio is transmitting.?

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                      @ServiceXp said:

                      @gigi Wow, that's a lot of "stuff" on that 3.3v rail. I think that's your problem... What kind of current are you pulling on that rail when the radio is transmitting.?

                      now I try to put the temperature sensor on the 5 volt

                      arduino mega limits the current on 3.3v?

                      I order AMS1117-3.3V,
                      My idea:
                      put the step-down input to 5V external power supply and output on 3.3 rail!!! For not use 3.3 v to MEGA

                      Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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                      • gigiG gigi

                        @ServiceXp said:

                        @gigi Wow, that's a lot of "stuff" on that 3.3v rail. I think that's your problem... What kind of current are you pulling on that rail when the radio is transmitting.?

                        now I try to put the temperature sensor on the 5 volt

                        arduino mega limits the current on 3.3v?

                        I order AMS1117-3.3V,
                        My idea:
                        put the step-down input to 5V external power supply and output on 3.3 rail!!! For not use 3.3 v to MEGA

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                        @gigi

                        Here are some specs.

                        Summary:
                        Microcontroller ATmega2560
                        Operating Voltage 5V
                        Input Voltage (recommended) 7-12V
                        Input Voltage (limits) 6-20V
                        Digital I/O Pins 54 (of which 15 provide PWM output)
                        Analog Input Pins 16
                        DC Current per I/O Pin 40 mA
                        DC Current for 3.3V Pin 50 mA
                        Flash Memory 256 KB of which 8 KB used by bootloader
                        SRAM 8 KB
                        EEPROM 4 KB
                        Clock Speed 16 MHz

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                          rsz_1imm1.jpg

                          Relay on
                          imm2.jpg

                          Only 3.3 volt
                          imm3.jpg

                          I do not know if I measured correctly, and my instrument is accurate !!!!!

                          Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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                          • gigiG gigi

                            rsz_1imm1.jpg

                            Relay on
                            imm2.jpg

                            Only 3.3 volt
                            imm3.jpg

                            I do not know if I measured correctly, and my instrument is accurate !!!!!

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                            RJ_Make
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                            @gigi I just can't believe that the display, rfm12b and NRF24 on the same 3.3v rail is under 50ma,... not too mention the other stuff on it.. You could try disconnecting everything except the NRF24 and see what happens?

                            I can't even get my NRF24's to work with the shop's listed boost with the Pro Mini attached without a 'massive' capacitor.

                            RJ_Make

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                              @ServiceXp said:

                              I just can't believe that the display, rfm12b and NRF24 on the same 3.3v rail is under 50ma,... not too mention the other stuff on it.. You could try disconnecting everything except the NRF24 and see what happens?

                              I can't even get my NRF24's to work with the shop's listed boost with the Pro Mini attached without a 'massive' capacitor.

                              I tried to put a separate power supply.

                              General supply 5V 2 Amps.

                              I do not have the controller and I put two arduino nano for 3.3 volts

                              Schema-Elettrico-Termostato-Mysensos3_bb.jpg

                              after 2 hours the system crashes.

                              if I put only one of the two radio system is fine.

                              I tried it with a standalone with two radio but without a monitor and the system works perfectly!!!

                              I have to put other capacitors?

                              Thank

                              Vera lite - mysensors Ethernet gateway - AirWik sensor - Relay Module

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