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  • M mbj

    @bjacobse With two extruders you load up each with your most common filaments and thus do a filament change less frequent. Then it is a "nice-to-have" but nothing cruicial at least not for me who rarely combine materials in same print.

    In more advanced use when people want to print for example support structures in one material and the item itself with another filament this is not practically possible with less than two extruders.

    Changing colors can be done with one extruder but frequent changes for same part are of course a pain.

    So depending on use the dual (or even more complex) extruders are everything from just nice to a must. For a beginner it is not needed (and for something "home built" it is most likely possible to change to a more complex extruder after some years).

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    @mbj
    And please share you experience using 2 extruders when available, (as I agree it is a nice enhancement) after a novice have become experienced using one filament/extruder

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      Well, I didnt think this post would get so popular! but thats great, have learnt a lot just by looking suggested things up.

      So, Software....

      I am thinking of using sketchup as I already use this quite a bit for different projects and can find my way around it well.
      Has anyone else used it and think there is better? Preferably free or open source...

      What's everyone's preference?

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        Well, I didnt think this post would get so popular! but thats great, have learnt a lot just by looking suggested things up.

        So, Software....

        I am thinking of using sketchup as I already use this quite a bit for different projects and can find my way around it well.
        Has anyone else used it and think there is better? Preferably free or open source...

        What's everyone's preference?

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        I have used SolidWorks because that’s what I learned in school. I like it.

        Fusion360 is becoming very popular.

        Both are available for free for makers.

        Both these have a engineering focus, while Sketchup has a more aesthetic design focus I think.

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        • C Crumpy10

          Well, I didnt think this post would get so popular! but thats great, have learnt a lot just by looking suggested things up.

          So, Software....

          I am thinking of using sketchup as I already use this quite a bit for different projects and can find my way around it well.
          Has anyone else used it and think there is better? Preferably free or open source...

          What's everyone's preference?

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          @crumpy10 For starting out I'd suggest online sites like tinkercad. It's free, you can download stl files to print and it's a good way to learn.

          It's not as fully featured as some of the paid packages, but it will give you a taste of what you need and can go from there with whatever suits your need and budget.

          I believe that sktechup also can output stl files (maybe needs a plugin, I don't know I don't use it), so maybe an option if you are happy with that.

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            I just purchased a Creality CR-10S Pro. It should arrive in a couple days. Anyone own one of these? This is my first step into the 3D making world :-)

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            • HomerH Homer

              I just purchased a Creality CR-10S Pro. It should arrive in a couple days. Anyone own one of these? This is my first step into the 3D making world :-)

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              skywatch
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              @homer I think you've made a good choice - good luck with with your new source of frustration and learning! :)

              If it turns out you don't like it, feel free to send it to me (Heeeee) ;)

              From experience though, test out your printer with something simple from thingiverse.com and see how it goes....

              For me the following were the areas I had problems with at first.....

              1. Bed leveling - this has to be right to get the first layer the same thickness.
              2. Bed adhesion - I had 'lifting' problems that took a while to sort out.
              3. Supports - You'll get a feel for where and when to use supports, it takes a little trail and error though....
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              • C Crumpy10

                Well, I didnt think this post would get so popular! but thats great, have learnt a lot just by looking suggested things up.

                So, Software....

                I am thinking of using sketchup as I already use this quite a bit for different projects and can find my way around it well.
                Has anyone else used it and think there is better? Preferably free or open source...

                What's everyone's preference?

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                @crumpy10
                I use Freecad as it works on Linux/Ububntu
                Why not use the CAD program that already are using and are familiar with

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                  Thanks everyone, good advice. A bit of trial and error learning, with a vertical learning curve...
                  Looks like I may go for either the Creality CR10 or the Ender 3, then have a play printing some existing items to see whats possible before I do my own designs.

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                  • skywatchS skywatch

                    @homer I think you've made a good choice - good luck with with your new source of frustration and learning! :)

                    If it turns out you don't like it, feel free to send it to me (Heeeee) ;)

                    From experience though, test out your printer with something simple from thingiverse.com and see how it goes....

                    For me the following were the areas I had problems with at first.....

                    1. Bed leveling - this has to be right to get the first layer the same thickness.
                    2. Bed adhesion - I had 'lifting' problems that took a while to sort out.
                    3. Supports - You'll get a feel for where and when to use supports, it takes a little trail and error though....
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                    @skywatch said in Best 3d printers:

                    @homer I think you've made a good choice - good luck with with your new source of frustration and learning! :)

                    If it turns out you don't like it, feel free to send it to me (Heeeee) ;)

                    From experience though, test out your printer with something simple from thingiverse.com and see how it goes....

                    For me the following were the areas I had problems with at first.....

                    1. Bed leveling - this has to be right to get the first layer the same thickness.
                    2. Bed adhesion - I had 'lifting' problems that took a while to sort out.
                    3. Supports - You'll get a feel for where and when to use supports, it takes a little trail and error though....

                    Thanks mate! So far I'm liking it, so I'm sorry to say that I won't be sending it to you anytime soon haha

                    So far I've printed 3 things. The first was the cat that was on the SD card, and this came out perfect. I used the filament that came with the printer. My next two models were the same, a sign for two of my kids who play Fortnite. The object was quite flat but spread across the bed. Each was printer with different filament. The first lifted very badly but not bad enough to use. The good thing was that this print was nice and easy to remove from the bed haha. The third printed perfectly but wow it was extremely difficult to get off the bed!

                    I do have an issue with leveling. The bar that holds the printer head, no matter what I do in the way of adjustment, the right side is close to 3mm higher than the left. I'm in the process of having this addressed with who I bought it from, but at this stage all they are saying is to level the bed automatically, which seems to be working fine, but I don't know how it will go with taller prints.

                    I would like to start making my own boxes for my Mysensors, but don't know what program to use. I've never done this sort of thing before, so at the moment I'm a little concerned about the learning curve, so if you or anyone knows of a program that is simple to use for this purpose, please share what it is!

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                    • HomerH Homer

                      @skywatch said in Best 3d printers:

                      @homer I think you've made a good choice - good luck with with your new source of frustration and learning! :)

                      If it turns out you don't like it, feel free to send it to me (Heeeee) ;)

                      From experience though, test out your printer with something simple from thingiverse.com and see how it goes....

                      For me the following were the areas I had problems with at first.....

                      1. Bed leveling - this has to be right to get the first layer the same thickness.
                      2. Bed adhesion - I had 'lifting' problems that took a while to sort out.
                      3. Supports - You'll get a feel for where and when to use supports, it takes a little trail and error though....

                      Thanks mate! So far I'm liking it, so I'm sorry to say that I won't be sending it to you anytime soon haha

                      So far I've printed 3 things. The first was the cat that was on the SD card, and this came out perfect. I used the filament that came with the printer. My next two models were the same, a sign for two of my kids who play Fortnite. The object was quite flat but spread across the bed. Each was printer with different filament. The first lifted very badly but not bad enough to use. The good thing was that this print was nice and easy to remove from the bed haha. The third printed perfectly but wow it was extremely difficult to get off the bed!

                      I do have an issue with leveling. The bar that holds the printer head, no matter what I do in the way of adjustment, the right side is close to 3mm higher than the left. I'm in the process of having this addressed with who I bought it from, but at this stage all they are saying is to level the bed automatically, which seems to be working fine, but I don't know how it will go with taller prints.

                      I would like to start making my own boxes for my Mysensors, but don't know what program to use. I've never done this sort of thing before, so at the moment I'm a little concerned about the learning curve, so if you or anyone knows of a program that is simple to use for this purpose, please share what it is!

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                      @homer said in Best 3d printers:

                      Thanks mate! So far I'm liking it, so I'm sorry to say that I won't be sending it to >you anytime soon haha

                      Awwwww.... :(

                      I would like to start making my own boxes for my Mysensors, but don't know >what program to use. I've never done this sort of thing before, so at the moment >I'm a little concerned about the learning curve, so if you or anyone knows of a >program that is simple to use for this purpose, please share what it is!

                      As I said, try tinkercad. It's a free online 3D design tool that will give you a good taste of 3D design and the features you may want/need in a full paid product.

                      You probably won't stop printing now for at least 6 months! ;)

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                        I bought a PowerSpec Wanhao Duplicator Prusa i3 Plus and am quite happy with it (see https://www.microcenter.com/product/486543/wanhao-duplicator-i3-plus-3d-printer ).

                        Several things to consider:

                        • There are a LOT of great 3D communities for 3D printers; check out "Wanhao" on Thingiverse to see parts you can print to upgrade your printer(s) ( http://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=wanhao&dwh=995d35d8e0e03d1 ).

                        • Check with your local makerspaces (Houston has 13 Makerspaces, I'd check with the major ones like TXRX Labs ( https://www.txrxlabs.org/ ) who not only can advise you on printers but may actually sell kits made by members.

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                          Ok, so I got my hands on an Ender3 printer. So far so good, very impressed for the price. But could someone tell me what causes this?0_1564479120229_96D400A1-4B43-462F-8160-F1A376C13888.jpeg

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                            Ok, so I got my hands on an Ender3 printer. So far so good, very impressed for the price. But could someone tell me what causes this?0_1564479120229_96D400A1-4B43-462F-8160-F1A376C13888.jpeg

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                            @crumpy10 bad adhesion to printer bed, mixed with inconsistent filament extrusion.

                            See this page for 3d printer troubleshooting : https://www.simplify3d.com/support/print-quality-troubleshooting/

                            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                              Woule the Mirobot in theory be capable of working like a 3D printer?

                              https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mirobot/mirobot-6-axis-mini-industrial-robot-arm/faqs

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                                Ok, so I got my hands on an Ender3 printer. So far so good, very impressed for the price. But could someone tell me what causes this?0_1564479120229_96D400A1-4B43-462F-8160-F1A376C13888.jpeg

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                                @crumpy10
                                Looks like your skirt are fine (The round first prints) but inside your print you get to little PLA through your nozzle
                                is temperature correct?
                                is is a good source from PLA? or is it that came along the 3D printer, then swap and use new PLA
                                If you have Bowden extruder, is it extruding correctly? maybe the gear slips
                                And then maybe is your bed 100% calibrated?

                                I don't think your nozzle is clogged as the skirt looks ok

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                                • alowhumA alowhum

                                  Woule the Mirobot in theory be capable of working like a 3D printer?

                                  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mirobot/mirobot-6-axis-mini-industrial-robot-arm/faqs

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                                  @alowhum
                                  NO it can't be used as 3D printer, it's not accurate enough
                                  QA from their homepage:
                                  Would it be possible to place circuit components on circuit boards using this arm or does it not have enough precision?

                                  Yes, the repeatability is 0.2mm, This is enough for PCB soldering.

                                  My 3D printer, zonestar 802 have this accuracy:
                                  XY-Axis Positioning Accuracy: 0.012mm

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                                    @bjacobse thanks!

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                                      Ok, so I got my hands on an Ender3 printer. So far so good, very impressed for the price. But could someone tell me what causes this?0_1564479120229_96D400A1-4B43-462F-8160-F1A376C13888.jpeg

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                                      @crumpy10
                                      Try FIRST to level your bed - PLA can't stick to air if you have too much distance between nozzlehead and bed.

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                                        I like Monoprice's Maker Select Plus, because it proves the fact that you don't need to spend a fortune to buy a good 3D printer. It has a large build area, a heated bed and can handle lots of different materials. Maybe you should also pay attention to this one.

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                                          Ok, so I got my hands on an Ender3 printer. So far so good, very impressed for the price. But could someone tell me what causes this?0_1564479120229_96D400A1-4B43-462F-8160-F1A376C13888.jpeg

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                                          @Crumpy10 said in Best 3d printers:

                                          But could someone tell me what causes this?

                                          Your print head is too high: you need more "squish" on the first layer. Evidence: the print lines need to meld into one another without gaps between them and be flatter than what your picture shows. Running a calibration should fix this, though you can also do an "on the fly" adjustment if you notice it starting badly, generally when printing the skirt.

                                          I have a Prusa 3 modded to use an all copper heatpath so that it can print faster than the stock version. An Ender 3 seems perfectly good though, and for the same money you can own more than one and parallel print. :eye:

                                          If I were to upgrade further I'd build an enclosure to make it quieter and run some kind of hepa carbon air filter on it to minimize emissions, regardless of what brand I owned. The last I checked (around a year or so ago) there weren't any good kits for that except for one that was priced sky high for schools or corporate use.

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