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  • R Offline
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    rickmontana83
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    #89

    Agree about smaller. Everything looks classier with less wasted space.

    Probably too late now, but if the board had mounting holes that lined up with the enclosure that would be sweet. I'm always at a loss for how to keep my boards stable inside their plastic homes. Would love to hear peoples' solutions for mounting when the holes don't line up.

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      tbowmo
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      #90

      @rickmontana83

      nothing's too late (yet). I haven't even ordered the first prototype batch yet. Still ironing out some details, and routing the PCB (I have only scratched the routing for the 10th time or so :s ). Actually I had thought about adding a couple of mounting holes in the board..

      I'll see if the boxes that I have, resembles the one that I just linked to.. (I've talked with @hek about finding some enclosures a couple of days ago, when we suddenly found a seller on ali express, that only had enclosures of various kinds).

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        plinioseniore
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        #91

        @tbowmo

        Yes the Atmega32U4 and Atmega328 has in the RAM their main problem, in our case we run smoothly in the 2KBytes available because we don't use ASCII in the protocol, but binary only.

        Then the board is for as a remote sensor node, running on battery, not a main gateway board.

        In any case, the board that you are designing will work nicely also with Souliss.battery_board-1.jpg

        Souliss, Arduino and Android based SmartHome and IoT
        http://www.souliss.net
        @soulissteam

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        • tbowmoT tbowmo

          @rickmontana83

          nothing's too late (yet). I haven't even ordered the first prototype batch yet. Still ironing out some details, and routing the PCB (I have only scratched the routing for the 10th time or so :s ). Actually I had thought about adding a couple of mounting holes in the board..

          I'll see if the boxes that I have, resembles the one that I just linked to.. (I've talked with @hek about finding some enclosures a couple of days ago, when we suddenly found a seller on ali express, that only had enclosures of various kinds).

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          RJ_Make
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          #92

          @tbowmo Mounting holes would be very good. :flushed:

          RJ_Make

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            tbowmo
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            #93

            ok now with mounting holes. Or sort of.. the holes are 4.8cm apart, center to center, and the pcb is 5cm wide. I have used this case as a template.

            MysensorsGW.png

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              tbowmo
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              #94

              and now with a w5100 module attached

              MysensorsGW-w5100.png

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              • scalzS Offline
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                scalz
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                #95

                very nice board, bravo !
                thank you for sharing your work and knowledge.

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                  blacey
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                  #96

                  Sweet!!! :+1: :+1: :+1:

                  Sign me up for 5! :)

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                    Francois
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                    #97

                    You put a work into this board and it looks great. Cannot wait for it to come available.

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                      5546dug
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                      #98

                      @tbowmo My hat is off to you, for the major effort put forth along with @blacey ,@Anticimex , @axillent and @hek to name but a few.

                      While following this thread at times lost (mostly?) with explanations and concepts I have been learning which is half the battle.

                      It seems it never too late for a old dog to learn a little.

                      However it seems there is a need for a better gw from some of the threads I have read.
                      I for one will purchase a unit in what ever form it morphs into.

                      Great work with all these boards.

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                        tbowmo
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                        #99

                        I'm still routing the board, it's more complicated than my previous boards, so will be a bit longer process to get all in place.

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                          tbowmo
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                          #100

                          A small update here, on an even larger update on the gateway device.

                          After some considerations, I have decided to switch the MCU for the GW to an atmel SAM D21G, instead of atmega1284. While doing this I have reduced the BOM for the GW, and cut about 1/3 of the BOM price.

                          The D21G is the same chip that's on the new arduino zero, and also on a kickstarter project called neutrino. @blacey is the one who pointed me in that direction :)

                          While being a more powerful chip (256kb flash, 32kb ram, 48 MHz, loads of extra peripherals) it is actually cheaper than the atmega1284, and it has build in USB controler, so the ftdi chip could be removed, a couple of other glue components is also gone now.

                          It will mean that we have to work a bit harder at getting mysensors running, but since the MCU is supported by arduino, we should be able to manage.

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                            scalz
                            Hardware Contributor
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                            #101

                            very interesting! I didn't know neutrino, pretty nice board. Seems there will be some work on software part but it is doable like you said. And you will have more power, which is nice for the GW I think, and I like when chip is usb compatible (like pic18f4550 ...). Maybe one day, it will become HID, lol!

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                              tbowmo
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                              #102

                              @scalz

                              I didn't know of the neutrino (or arduino zero) before @blacey mentioned it to me, and he finally got me convinced that I should swap the atmega1284. (I know that @axillent tried to convince me to use another chip, than the atmega, before.. But when you find this, and it can reduce board complexity..)

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                                scalz
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                                #103

                                @tbowmo: it is likely same things for me. lots of 8/16bits chip collection (microchip). but never moved to 32bit even if i have a 32bit usb bit wacker (not time to test it). I was thinking that you can do lot of things with 8bit chips. So yesterday, I have read a little the datasheet atsamd21. Wow, 1077 pages! But there is lots lots of features! I think I will try to order one sample for my collection! Plus, these chips seems to be not expensive but there is some learning curve on it. I think Microchip have missed a big move with arduino platform!

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                                  tbowmo
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                                  #104

                                  A couple of late night shots, of the progress..

                                  Getting ready for the first prototype spin of the board

                                  MysensorsGW-no-radios.png

                                  MysensorsGW-bottom.png

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                                    RJ_Make
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                                    #105

                                    That right there is a work of art!

                                    RJ_Make

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                                      NeverDie
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                                      #106

                                      You may be interested in this Arduino shield:
                                      gw.JPG
                                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/WireLess-Gate-Shield-DIY-Maker-Seeed-BOOOLE-/171713943896?hash=item27faf2d958

                                      It has both NRF24L01+ and RFM69HW radios.

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                                        5546dug
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                                        #107

                                        @tbowmo this gw is looking good, hope the prototypes get to you soon!

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                                          tbowmo
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                                          wrote on last edited by tbowmo
                                          #108

                                          The first pcb's have arrived today.

                                          They came a bit faster from dirtypcbs.com, than I had expected. So haven't even sourced the components yet.

                                          So need to look into that the next couple of days.

                                          front.jpg

                                          back.jpg

                                          with W5100 / NRF module "mounted" :
                                          mockup.jpg

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