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    tlund
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    @tbowmo

    My NRF's are the same $1 nrf's listed in the mysensors store, so probably fake. But I have still measured them to draw ~900nA in powerDown.

    But I think I have found the culprint now. It seems the extra 20uA is caused by Arduino 1.6.5 (it may be that my installation is faulty).

    My test setup:

    • pro mini
    • nrf
    • a simple sketch that does gw.sleep(60s)

    1st test: sketch compiled & uploaded via Arduino 1.0.5-r2: 6uA
    2nd test: sketch compiled & uploaded via Arduino 1.6.5: 24uA

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      @tlund

      Hmm could it be some optimization that causes the atmega to not go into deepest sleep mode?

      Maybe someone should have a look at the assembler output from a build with both versions of arduino

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        Fabien
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        I'm back with bad news ... My 5th sensebender have a lot of st:fail like the first one. But now I know why !
        There is only one same things between the two board which fails : The FTDI connector. It's 90° connector and pins are just below the antenna. And I think tunning is not ok.
        So, when I go to work I try to remove the FTDI connector and see if connection is better !
        IMG_20150629_160855.jpg

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          @Fabien

          That ftdi connector could have some effect on the antenna. I specifically made the area below the antenna empty, so that it wouldn't make any problems with the antenna.

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            Fabien
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            So now the good news. I "repair" my 1st SenseBender (only two wire but one on the ATMega) and it works (with the same radio wich failed). I remove the FTDI header and everythings is ok. So now I'm sure the problem is the FTDI header near the antenna. And be carefull, we can have the same problem with battery for example. I suppose minimal distance is about 3.2 cm (lambda/4).
            But now I have a question : How can I update sketch without header (0° header doesn't fit in case). OTA ? Is ther a tutorial for OTA update with out of the box SenseBenderMicro ?

            Thank for your help !

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              gloob
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              #197

              I have the FTDI headers on the opposite site and I also get this transmission errors.
              I ordered a new batch of NRF24L01+ modules and will check if the problem still exists.

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                mvader
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                #198

                I have my FTDI headers on the other side as well and have no transmission errors.
                I am using genuine NRF+ radios though.
                could be the fakes causing a problem

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                  I have a male connector on my FTDI thingie, so I just put it in the mounting holes on the micro, and hold it to one of the sides, so it makes contact.

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                    tlund
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                    #200

                    @tbowmo

                    I tried uploading the sensebender sketch using 1.0.5-r2 with board config "pro mini 328 3.3V 8MHz". The si7021 doesn't work in this configuration, but I managed to get a sleep current of ~6.8uA

                    SenseBender.png

                    I can provide the binary output from the two IDE versions if someone can give me an indication where to find the build binaries.

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                      @tlund

                      I think it's better if we can get the intermediate asm file from the compiler chain. Will look at it tomorrow evening (I have closed my computer down for the evening today)

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                      • G gbfromhb

                        @mvader
                        I have so far had no problems running my PIR sensors at 3.3v with the following hack.

                        http://techgurka.blogspot.com/2013/05/cheap-pyroelectric-infrared-pir-motion.html

                        You can not do this with all PIR Sensors from what I understand, but one of the ones listed in the MySensors store is what I've been using. Go down to the bottom of the article.

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                        @gbfromhb said:

                        @mvader
                        I have so far had no problems running my PIR sensors at 3.3v with the following hack.

                        http://techgurka.blogspot.com/2013/05/cheap-pyroelectric-infrared-pir-motion.html

                        You can not do this with all PIR Sensors from what I understand, but one of the ones listed in the MySensors store is what I've been using. Go down to the bottom of the article.

                        I just wanted to follow up and say thanks for the link/info
                        i was able to get that working.
                        surprised that they just don't offer a 3v pin.. it works great the way that link shows
                        Thanks again!

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                          5546dug
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                          Has anybody built a box for the standard Sensebender Micro with 2 AA batteries yet.
                          I would like to get the .stl files if so
                          Thanks Doug

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                          • 5546dug5 5546dug

                            Has anybody built a box for the standard Sensebender Micro with 2 AA batteries yet.
                            I would like to get the .stl files if so
                            Thanks Doug

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                            Sparkman
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                            @5546dug said:

                            Has anybody built a box for the standard Sensebender Micro with 2 AA batteries yet.
                            I would like to get the .stl files if so
                            Thanks Doug

                            Hi Doug,

                            @ServiceXP has posted this one: http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1566/mysensors-sensebender-micro-3dp-case

                            Cheers
                            Al

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                              Kurtsejr
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                              Has anyone been able to "Include" it to VERA UI7, My Sensebender borad is working fine according to the output from the Arduino terminal window - it request a node id, but will not "include". I'm using the default code already installed in Sensebender Micro board.

                              /Kurt

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                                hek
                                Admin
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                                #206

                                Yes, it works in UI7. Are you using the correct Vera-branch?

                                https://github.com/mysensors/Vera/tree/UI7

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                                  gloob
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                                  #207

                                  If somebody is looking for some Sensebenders. They are in sale currently for only 14$

                                  http://imall.itead.cc/mysensors-micro.html

                                  Edit:

                                  I thought I had paid 17$ but they were initially sold for 14$. Sorry.

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                                    Fabien
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                                    #208

                                    I just order 4 new sensebender, NRF24L01+ (normal and PA+LNA), and Iboard for the gateway. Shiiping is quite expensive (about 31 $)

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                                      tbowmo
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                                      @Fabien

                                      Did you choose DHL as shipping option?

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                                        soward
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                                        I just tried to order something from them and for some reason DHL is now the only available ( US ) shipping option, and it's quite expensive. The sensorbenders I ordered last month were ~$6 shipping, the other components I looked at today via DHL (similar size) were $46, so might be worth holding off a bit until they restore the air-mail option.

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                                          hek
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                                          #211

                                          $46 in shipping is a bit hefty. I'll check what's up with their air mail shipping.

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