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  • FotoFieberF Offline
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    FotoFieber
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    #14

    Yes, great stuff, ordered 6... wish they were available 4 weeks ago: I wouldn't have designed a minimal PCB/NRF based on the DIL version of the 328,,,,

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    • hekH Offline
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      #15

      Just ordered 6 for myself. I wouldn't want to miss out on the first batch. Only around 100 left.

      Talked to Itead today. They had to source the ATSHA204A from overseas and will start production when they arrive.

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      • RJ_MakeR Offline
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        #16

        Picked up 5 myself

        RJ_Make

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          wrote on last edited by korttoma
          #17

          What would be the best option to add an external temperature sensor to the Sensbender Micro?
          Another Si7021? Any thoughts?
          I could not find any other I2C temperature sensor with the same voltage range to a reasonable price.

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          • hekH hek

            Just ordered 6 for myself. I wouldn't want to miss out on the first batch. Only around 100 left.

            Talked to Itead today. They had to source the ATSHA204A from overseas and will start production when they arrive.

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            #18

            @hek said:

            Just ordered 6 for myself. I wouldn't want to miss out on the first batch. Only around 100 left.

            Talked to Itead today. They had to source the ATSHA204A from overseas and will start production when they arrive.

            bought also 3 pieces :-)

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              #19

              I picked up 3 and 5 radios

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              • hetbeestH Offline
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                wrote on last edited by hetbeest
                #20

                Just ordered two to start with ;)

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                  Dean
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                  #21

                  Hope this isn't too silly a question.... The temp/humidity sensing, that works 'out of the box' without requiring me actually connecting these sensors, right?

                  And another question, would it be possible to turn the temp/hum function off and just have a motion sensor connected which would never do anything unless it sensed movement and then send a message to the gateway?

                  I've been flat out at work for a couple months so I've been away from this for a while... :-)

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                    #22

                    @Dean

                    It will be programmed by the factory, with the "Sensebender micro" sketch, https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/blob/master/libraries/MySensors/examples/SensebenderMicro/SensebenderMicro.ino

                    So it's plug'n'play as a sensor with temperature and humidity. You could always dump another sketch to the unit, if you want to use it for something else.

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                    • G Offline
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                      gol
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                      #23

                      I have also ordered a couple of boards to be able to evaulate them as soon as possible.

                      Just a question:

                      • What is the expected lifetime of the batteries if you use 2 AA batteries, the default preloaded sketch and reports the temp and humidity values once per minute?
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                      • jeylitesJ Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by jeylites
                        #24

                        Out of curiosity, can over the air updates be implemented on Arduino Nano? I'm going to get 3 to put Sense to the test. :smiley:

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                        • hekH Offline
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                          hek
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #25

                          @gol

                          It was measured by @blacey to 0.05 mA while sleeping and 0.95 mA during transmit. @tbowmo got some higher figures but they were most probably related to running a NRF24L01+ clone.

                          @jeylites
                          Yes, have a look at the bootloader here:
                          https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/master/MYSBootloader
                          You can test OTA updates using the MYSController. It overwrites program memory in-place during boot. If communication goes down or fails during this process the node won't boot up again (you have to upload a new sketch while connected to you computer).

                          The sensbender has a external flash which means we can safely store the OTA firmware while normal sketch is running. When everything has been downloaded the DualOptiboot moves new firmware from flash to program memory during bootup. The code for this has been written (in development branch) but has not been tested yet (I failed handsoldering them :() .

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                            Thankyou @tbowmo

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                            • hekH hek

                              @gol

                              It was measured by @blacey to 0.05 mA while sleeping and 0.95 mA during transmit. @tbowmo got some higher figures but they were most probably related to running a NRF24L01+ clone.

                              @jeylites
                              Yes, have a look at the bootloader here:
                              https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/master/MYSBootloader
                              You can test OTA updates using the MYSController. It overwrites program memory in-place during boot. If communication goes down or fails during this process the node won't boot up again (you have to upload a new sketch while connected to you computer).

                              The sensbender has a external flash which means we can safely store the OTA firmware while normal sketch is running. When everything has been downloaded the DualOptiboot moves new firmware from flash to program memory during bootup. The code for this has been written (in development branch) but has not been tested yet (I failed handsoldering them :() .

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                              wrote on last edited by tekka
                              #27

                              @hek said:

                              @jeylites
                              Yes, have a look at the bootloader here:
                              https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/master/MYSBootloader
                              You can test OTA updates using the MYSController. It overwrites program memory in-place during boot. If communication goes down or fails during this process the node won't boot up again (you have to upload a new sketch while connected to you computer).

                              If the communication fails, the bootloader will remain "bootloading", i.e. will try to fetch a new firmware from the controller until the CRC matches - no need to upload a sketch via computer.

                              MYSBootloader 2.0 will have SHA signing implemented: for those nodes without ATSHA204 which need signed OTA updates :)

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                                @hek said:

                                @jeylites
                                Yes, have a look at the bootloader here:
                                https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/master/MYSBootloader
                                You can test OTA updates using the MYSController. It overwrites program memory in-place during boot. If communication goes down or fails during this process the node won't boot up again (you have to upload a new sketch while connected to you computer).

                                If the communication fails, the bootloader will remain "bootloading", i.e. will try to fetch a new firmware from the controller until the CRC matches - no need to upload a sketch via computer.

                                MYSBootloader 2.0 will have SHA signing implemented: for those nodes without ATSHA204 which need signed OTA updates :)

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                                #28

                                @tekka said:

                                Yes, have a look at the bootloader here:
                                https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/master/MYSBootloader

                                Do I have to include those files into my sketch or just install MYS on windows and it will auto detect? In other words, do I have to make any changes to the sketch?

                                Is there any tutorial on MYS implementation?

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                                • jeylitesJ jeylites

                                  @tekka said:

                                  Yes, have a look at the bootloader here:
                                  https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/master/MYSBootloader

                                  Do I have to include those files into my sketch or just install MYS on windows and it will auto detect? In other words, do I have to make any changes to the sketch?

                                  Is there any tutorial on MYS implementation?

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                                  hek
                                  Admin
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #29

                                  @jeylites

                                  You should read up on what a bootloader is and how to install it.
                                  http://www.arduino.cc/en/Hacking/Bootloader?from=Tutorial.Bootloader
                                  Might be good to start another thread if you have more MYSController/bootloader questions,

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                                  • hekH hek

                                    @jeylites

                                    You should read up on what a bootloader is and how to install it.
                                    http://www.arduino.cc/en/Hacking/Bootloader?from=Tutorial.Bootloader
                                    Might be good to start another thread if you have more MYSController/bootloader questions,

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #30

                                    @hek said:

                                    Might be good to start another thread

                                    Nicely put :)

                                    I would say 'please start another thread because this will never be found again and will help other as well'...

                                    Just my 2 cents.

                                    Fulltime Servoy Developer
                                    Parttime Moderator MySensors board

                                    I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
                                    I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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                                      #31

                                      is 3V the absolute maximum or 3.3V is acceptable to power it? For non-battery operated sensors, it may be easier to find a 3.3V regulators instead 3V (at least in my country).

                                      Home Assistant / Vera Plus UI7
                                      ESP8266 GW + mySensors 2.3.2
                                      Alexa / Google Home

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #32

                                        @rvendrame

                                        absolute maximum voltage is 3.6V, above that you'll let the magic smoke out of the following components:

                                        • Si7021
                                        • external flash
                                        • radio module.

                                        Only the atmega328 and atsha204 will survive.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #33

                                          @tbowmo said:

                                          absolute maximum voltage is 3.6V

                                          But will all components work properly on 3.3V?

                                          Home Assistant / Vera Plus UI7
                                          ESP8266 GW + mySensors 2.3.2
                                          Alexa / Google Home

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