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  • hekH hek

    How are you powering your node? Your node's radio is constantly fail to transmit (st=fail).

    It's actually the gateway having problems transmitting acks back to node.

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    @hek said:

    How are you powering your node? Your node's radio is constantly fail to transmit (st=fail).

    It's actually the gateway having problems transmitting acks back to node.

    I'm powering the nrf modules from same 3.3V supply since I haven't bought a regulator yet. I'll test it again later. I'll be going out to buy them now.

    Just to give me a heads up. What should the serial gateway get after i press the inclusion button?

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      Sorry for the late reply

      Each modules are now supplied with 5V and 3.3V.

      This is the serial gateway output:

      0;0;3;0;14;Gateway startup complete.
      0;0;3;0;9;read: 1-1-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5:30.2
      1;0;1;0;0;30.2
      0;0;3;0;9;Inclusion started by button.
      0;0;3;0;5;1
      0;0;3;0;5;0
      

      This is the temp output:

      sensor started, id 1
      send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,st=fail:1.4.1
      send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,st=ok:0
      send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=18,st=fail:Temperature Sensor
      send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,st=fail:1.0
      send: 1-1-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=5,st=fail:1.4.1
      send: 1-1-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,st=fail:30.2
      

      st keeps on failing. I checked the nrf supply and it ranges from 3.1v to 3.3 v. Is this bad? I'm using spx2815 since it's the only thing available to me. I placed 10uF capacitor in the 5v input and 3.3v output to ground

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      • rvendrameR rvendrame

        Maybe this may cover it http://www.mysensors.org/download/serial_api_14

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        @rvendrame said:

        Maybe this may cover it http://www.mysensors.org/download/serial_api_14

        It only explains the "0;0;3;0;14;" but not the "s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=18,st=fail:Temperature Sensor" that it sends or reads

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          @fakeJake , are the node far from gateway, or any obstacle (such as a wall) in between? Another source of interference is for example a microwave.

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          • rvendrameR rvendrame

            @fakeJake , are the node far from gateway, or any obstacle (such as a wall) in between? Another source of interference is for example a microwave.

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            @rvendrame said:

            @fakeJake , are the node far from gateway, or any obstacle (such as a wall) in between? Another source of interference is for example a microwave.

            They are just 6 inches apart :worried:

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              Some people reported trouble with cheap fake radios. If you have spares nRF try replacing one of them or both.

              You mentioned a flotation (3.1 to 3.3) in radio VCC, this can also be a reason, as these nRF are very sensible to power variations.

              Post your sketches too, just incase...

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                I'm using the DallasTemperatureSensor.ino on MySensors library. I just change the gw.begin(); to gw.begin(NULL, 1);

                // Example sketch showing how to send in OneWire temperature readings
                #include <MySensor.h>  
                #include <SPI.h>
                #include <DallasTemperature.h>
                #include <OneWire.h>
                
                #define ONE_WIRE_BUS 3 // Pin where dallase sensor is connected 
                #define MAX_ATTACHED_DS18B20 16
                unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 30000; // Sleep time between reads (in milliseconds)
                OneWire oneWire(ONE_WIRE_BUS);
                DallasTemperature sensors(&oneWire);
                MySensor gw;
                float lastTemperature[MAX_ATTACHED_DS18B20];
                int numSensors=0;
                boolean receivedConfig = false;
                boolean metric = true; 
                // Initialize temperature message
                MyMessage msg(0,V_TEMP);
                
                void setup()  
                { 
                  // Startup OneWire 
                  sensors.begin();
                
                  // Startup and initialize MySensors library. Set callback for incoming messages. 
                  gw.begin(NULL,1); 
                
                  // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                  gw.sendSketchInfo("Temperature Sensor", "1.0");
                
                  // Fetch the number of attached temperature sensors  
                  numSensors = sensors.getDeviceCount();
                
                  // Present all sensors to controller
                  for (int i=0; i<numSensors && i<MAX_ATTACHED_DS18B20; i++) {   
                     gw.present(i, S_TEMP);
                  }
                }
                
                
                void loop()     
                {     
                  // Process incoming messages (like config from server)
                  gw.process(); 
                
                  // Fetch temperatures from Dallas sensors
                  sensors.requestTemperatures(); 
                
                  // Read temperatures and send them to controller 
                  for (int i=0; i<numSensors && i<MAX_ATTACHED_DS18B20; i++) {
                 
                    // Fetch and round temperature to one decimal
                    float temperature = static_cast<float>(static_cast<int>((gw.getConfig().isMetric?sensors.getTempCByIndex(i):sensors.getTempFByIndex(i)) * 10.)) / 10.;
                 
                    // Only send data if temperature has changed and no error
                    if (lastTemperature[i] != temperature && temperature != -127.00) {
                 
                      // Send in the new temperature
                      gw.send(msg.setSensor(i).set(temperature,1));
                      lastTemperature[i]=temperature;
                    }
                  }
                  gw.sleep(SLEEP_TIME);
                }
                
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                  Good news! The gateway is now working :)
                  I changed the dallas temperature to relay actuator and, yes, it's now working!
                  Bad news is I still don't know what went wrong with my temperature sensor.
                  I'll investigate on it soon.

                  This is the gateway output:

                  0;0;3;0;14;Gateway startup complete.
                  0;0;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=0,t=18,pt=0,l=5:1.4.1
                  2;255;0;0;18;1.4.1
                  0;0;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1:0
                  2;255;3;0;6;0
                  0;0;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=5:Relay
                  2;255;3;0;11;Relay
                  0;0;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3:1.0
                  2;255;3;0;12;1.0
                  0;0;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=1,c=0,t=3,pt=0,l=5:1.4.1
                  2;1;0;0;3;1.4.1
                  

                  This is the relay output:

                  repeater started, id 2
                  send: 2-2-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=18,pt=0,l=5,st=ok:1.4.1
                  send: 2-2-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,st=ok:0
                  send: 2-2-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=5,st=ok:Relay
                  send: 2-2-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.0
                  send: 2-2-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=3,pt=0,l=5,st=ok:1.4.1
                  

                  I just need to test it.
                  Since I'll be using a gsm to control the relay. Can you help me on what to send to the relay to turn it on/off?

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                    @fakeJake , I' m glad it worked with relay sketch.

                    Regarding the temperature, try to move the sensor to other arduino pin. Pin 2 & 3 are used by interrupts and may not play nice with gw.sleep depending on the lib used.

                    To send a message to the relay , you need a controller connected to the GW, either via USB or ethernet. You can also simulate it by entering the message on the Serial monitor.

                    The protocol is described here http://www.mysensors.org/download/serial_api_14

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                      #31

                      I tried entering message on the serial monitor of the gateway but still no luck.
                      This is the closest thing that I did to tell the relay to turn the light on.

                      Gateway output after I enter "2;0;1;1;2;1;" to the Serial monitor:

                      0;0;3;0;14;Gateway startup complete.
                      0;0;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5:1.4.1
                      2;255;0;0;17;1.4.1
                      0;0;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1:0
                      2;255;3;0;6;0
                      0;0;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=5:Relay
                      2;255;3;0;11;Relay
                      0;0;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3:1.0
                      2;255;3;0;12;1.0
                      0;0;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=1,c=0,t=3,pt=0,l=5:1.4.1
                      2;1;0;0;3;1.4.1
                      0;0;3;0;9;send: 0-0-2-2 s=0,c=1,t=2,pt=0,l=1,st=ok:1
                      0;0;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=0,c=1,t=2,pt=0,l=1:1
                      2;0;1;1;2;1
                      

                      Relay output after "2;0;1;1;2;1;" :

                      sensor started, id 2
                      send: 2-2-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,st=ok:1.4.1
                      send: 2-2-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,st=ok:0
                      send: 2-2-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=5,st=ok:Relay
                      send: 2-2-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.0
                      send: 2-2-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=3,pt=0,l=5,st=ok:1.4.1
                      read: 0-0-2 s=0,c=1,t=2,pt=0,l=1:1
                      send: 2-2-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=2,pt=0,l=1,st=ok:1
                      Incoming change for sensor:0, New status: 1
                      

                      Still it doesn't turn on the light

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                        Maybe you can you connect the node also in a USB port, and open a serial monitor for it? You would see if it is receiving the message correctly.

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                        • rvendrameR rvendrame

                          Maybe you can you connect the node also in a USB port, and open a serial monitor for it? You would see if it is receiving the message correctly.

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                          @rvendrame Sorry I forgot to include that, I edited the post

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                            It still doesn't open the light even if I change it to "2;255;1;1;2;1;"
                            I checked the relay using relay.ino from an instructable controlling ac light with relay and it's working.

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                              Can we see your sensor's sketch?

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                                I just changed the gw.begin();

                                // Example sketch showing how to control physical relays. 
                                // This example will remember relay state even after power failure.
                                
                                #include <MySensor.h>
                                #include <SPI.h>
                                
                                #define RELAY_1  3  // Arduino Digital I/O pin number for first relay (second on pin+1 etc)
                                #define NUMBER_OF_RELAYS 1 // Total number of attached relays
                                #define RELAY_ON 1  // GPIO value to write to turn on attached relay
                                #define RELAY_OFF 0 // GPIO value to write to turn off attached relay
                                
                                MySensor gw;
                                
                                void setup()  
                                {   
                                  // Initialize library and add callback for incoming messages
                                  gw.begin(incomingMessage, 2);
                                  // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                                  gw.sendSketchInfo("Relay", "1.0");
                                
                                  // Fetch relay status
                                  for (int sensor=1, pin=RELAY_1; sensor<=NUMBER_OF_RELAYS;sensor++, pin++) {
                                    // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                                    gw.present(sensor, S_LIGHT);
                                    // Then set relay pins in output mode
                                    pinMode(pin, OUTPUT);   
                                    // Set relay to last known state (using eeprom storage) 
                                    digitalWrite(pin, gw.loadState(sensor)?RELAY_ON:RELAY_OFF);
                                  }
                                }
                                
                                
                                void loop() 
                                {
                                  // Alway process incoming messages whenever possible
                                  gw.process();
                                }
                                
                                void incomingMessage(const MyMessage &message) {
                                  // We only expect one type of message from controller. But we better check anyway.
                                  if (message.type==V_LIGHT) {
                                     // Change relay state
                                     digitalWrite(message.sensor-1+RELAY_1, message.getBool()?RELAY_ON:RELAY_OFF);
                                     // Store state in eeprom
                                     gw.saveState(message.sensor, message.getBool());
                                     // Write some debug info
                                     Serial.print("Incoming change for sensor:");
                                     Serial.print(message.sensor);
                                     Serial.print(", New status: ");
                                     Serial.println(message.getBool());
                                   } 
                                }
                                
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                                  @fakeJake said:

                                  > Incoming change for sensor:0
                                  

                                  Means your are asking to activate relay 'zero'.

                                  digitalWrite(message.sensor-1+RELAY_1, message.getBool()?RELAY_ON:RELAY_OFF);
                                  

                                  So digital pin will be 0 - 1 + RELAY_1 = 0 - 1 + 3 = 2

                                  Conclusion: Try activating relay 1 instead 0. ;-)

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                                    @fakeJake said:

                                    > Incoming change for sensor:0
                                    

                                    Means your are asking to activate relay 'zero'.

                                    digitalWrite(message.sensor-1+RELAY_1, message.getBool()?RELAY_ON:RELAY_OFF);
                                    

                                    So digital pin will be 0 - 1 + RELAY_1 = 0 - 1 + 3 = 2

                                    Conclusion: Try activating relay 1 instead 0. ;-)

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                                    @rvendrame The light is still not turning on :sweat:
                                    I even change it to "2;257;1;1;2;1" just incase 255 is the message.sensor but it still prints "2;1;1;1;2;1" so I there's no problem there.

                                    sensor started, id 2
                                    send: 2-2-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,st=ok:1.4.1
                                    send: 2-2-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,st=ok:0
                                    send: 2-2-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=5,st=ok:Relay
                                    send: 2-2-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.0
                                    send: 2-2-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=3,pt=0,l=5,st=ok:1.4.1
                                    read: 0-0-2 s=1,c=1,t=2,pt=0,l=1:1
                                    send: 2-2-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=2,pt=0,l=1,st=ok:1
                                    Incoming change for sensor:1, New status: 1
                                    
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                                      how the relay is connected to arduino pin 3? Is there a transistor in between?

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                                        how the relay is connected to arduino pin 3? Is there a transistor in between?

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                                        @rvendrame No transistor. I just followed MySensors: Build Relay Actuator. I directly connected the 5v, gnd and signal to the arduino.

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                                          Do you have a standalone relay, or a arduino relay board, like this picture?
                                          http://www.mysensors.org/relay/relayModule.png

                                          The board contains a transistor. Some boards also have a 'hi-low' switch, if yours have it, you may try to play with it.

                                          The arduino output is max of 40ma and will eventually burn or not operate correctly if connected directly to a relay. You must have a transistor in between.

                                          Make sure you relay board contains at least this circuit: http://www.electroschematics.com/8975/arduino-control-relay/

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