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  • O Offline
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    Omemanti
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    #39

    should be alright right?

    mq135ex.jpg

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    • O Omemanti

      should be alright right?

      mq135ex.jpg

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      epierre
      Hero Member
      wrote on last edited by
      #40

      @Omemanti cabling is correct

      z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
      rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
      mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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        korttoma
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        #41

        Hi,
        Where can I find AirQuality1.xml?? (or all files related to this device if there are others then the .xml)

        01 09/03/14 13:46:53.685 ctrl_chr[31;1mDevice_LuaUPnP::LoadDeviceDoc can't load /etc/cmh-lu//D_AirQuality1.xmlctrl_chr[0m <0x2acc9000>
        02 09/03/14 13:46:53.686 ctrl_chr[33;1mJobHandler_LuaUPnP::m_sMissingFile_set /etc/cmh-lu//D_AirQuality1.xmlctrl_chr[0m <0x2acc9000>

        Seems like if this file is missing it brakes the whole MySensors plugin.
        All devices related to MySensors plugin are blank and nothing seems to update.
        Deleting the device that use AirQuality.xml will make the rest work again.

        Help!!

        • Tomas
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        • korttomaK korttoma

          Hi,
          Where can I find AirQuality1.xml?? (or all files related to this device if there are others then the .xml)

          01 09/03/14 13:46:53.685 ctrl_chr[31;1mDevice_LuaUPnP::LoadDeviceDoc can't load /etc/cmh-lu//D_AirQuality1.xmlctrl_chr[0m <0x2acc9000>
          02 09/03/14 13:46:53.686 ctrl_chr[33;1mJobHandler_LuaUPnP::m_sMissingFile_set /etc/cmh-lu//D_AirQuality1.xmlctrl_chr[0m <0x2acc9000>

          Seems like if this file is missing it brakes the whole MySensors plugin.
          All devices related to MySensors plugin are blank and nothing seems to update.
          Deleting the device that use AirQuality.xml will make the rest work again.

          Help!!

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          hek
          Admin
          wrote on last edited by
          #42

          @korttoma

          Unfortunately no one has created it :(

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          • hekH hek

            @korttoma

            Unfortunately no one has created it :(

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            korttoma
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            wrote on last edited by
            #43

            @hek
            ahh, that's why I cant find it... no pressure from my side to get one done but maybe we should mention this little detail on the MySensors building page just as a heads up for others since there is a sketch published and all...

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              epierre
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              wrote on last edited by
              #44

              I made a template but I'm unable to test it...

              z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
              rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
              mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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              • epierreE epierre

                @hek Here is a first list from the most commons:

                • Carbon Monoxide – CO
                • Carbon Dioxide – CO2
                • Oxygen – O2
                • Methane – CH4
                • Hydrogen – H2
                • Ammonia – NH3
                • Isobutane – C4H10
                • Ethanol – CH3CH2OH (aka C2H5OH or C2H60)
                • Toluene – C6H5CH3
                • Hydrogen Sulfide – H2S
                • Nitrogen Dioxide – NO2
                • Ozone – O3
                • Hydrocarbons – VOC
                • Chlorine CL2
                • Ammonium NH4
                • Ethanol CO2H50H
                • Methyl CH3
                • Acetone CH3_2CO
                • LPG (both C3H8 C4H10)
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                epierre
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                wrote on last edited by
                #45

                @hek here is an updated list from the Wunder Weather list of reportable gases:

                Carbon Monoxide – CO
                Carbon Dioxide – CO2
                Oxygen – O2
                Methane – CH4
                Hydrogen – H2
                Ammonia – NH3
                Isobutane – C4H10
                Ethanol – CH3CH2OH (aka C2H5OH or C2H60)
                Toluene – C6H5CH3
                Hydrogen Sulfide – H2S
                Nitrogen Dioxide – NO2
                Ozone – O3
                Hydrocarbons – VOC
                Chlorine CL2
                Ammonium NH4
                Ethanol CO2H50H
                Methyl CH3
                Acetone CH3_2CO
                LPG (both C3H8 C4H10)

                • NO - nitric oxide
                • NOX - nitrogen oxides
                • NO3 ion (nitrate, not adjusted for ammonium ion) UG/M3
                • SO4 ion, sulfate, not adjusted for ammonium ion, UG/M3
                • SO2 sulfur dioxide, ppb
                • EC (elemental carbon) – PM2.5 UG/M3
                • OC (organic carbon, not adjusted for oxygen and hydrogen) – PM2.5 UG/M3
                • BC (black carbon at 880 nm) UG/M3
                • UV-AETH (second channel of Aethalometer at 370 nm) UG/M3
                • PM2.5 mass - UG/M3
                • PM10 mass - PM10 mass

                z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                • epierreE epierre

                  @hek here is an updated list from the Wunder Weather list of reportable gases:

                  Carbon Monoxide – CO
                  Carbon Dioxide – CO2
                  Oxygen – O2
                  Methane – CH4
                  Hydrogen – H2
                  Ammonia – NH3
                  Isobutane – C4H10
                  Ethanol – CH3CH2OH (aka C2H5OH or C2H60)
                  Toluene – C6H5CH3
                  Hydrogen Sulfide – H2S
                  Nitrogen Dioxide – NO2
                  Ozone – O3
                  Hydrocarbons – VOC
                  Chlorine CL2
                  Ammonium NH4
                  Ethanol CO2H50H
                  Methyl CH3
                  Acetone CH3_2CO
                  LPG (both C3H8 C4H10)

                  • NO - nitric oxide
                  • NOX - nitrogen oxides
                  • NO3 ion (nitrate, not adjusted for ammonium ion) UG/M3
                  • SO4 ion, sulfate, not adjusted for ammonium ion, UG/M3
                  • SO2 sulfur dioxide, ppb
                  • EC (elemental carbon) – PM2.5 UG/M3
                  • OC (organic carbon, not adjusted for oxygen and hydrogen) – PM2.5 UG/M3
                  • BC (black carbon at 880 nm) UG/M3
                  • UV-AETH (second channel of Aethalometer at 370 nm) UG/M3
                  • PM2.5 mass - UG/M3
                  • PM10 mass - PM10 mass
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                  hek
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #46

                  Thanks!

                  Still thinking about you gas_type suggestion. It would introduce another level of device types. Hmm..

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                  • korttomaK korttoma

                    @hek
                    ahh, that's why I cant find it... no pressure from my side to get one done but maybe we should mention this little detail on the MySensors building page just as a heads up for others since there is a sketch published and all...

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                    epierre
                    Hero Member
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #47

                    @korttoma look above to S_CO2Sensor.json D_CO2Sensor.xml D_CO2Sensor.json, if you can test it...

                    z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                    rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                    mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                      #48

                      @Yveaux I know you are strong at finding datasheet... can you find one for me ? I can't find the 2SH12 sensor altgough I've asked for it to all suppliers on aliexpress...

                      Same for theWSP1110

                      z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                      rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                      mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                      • epierreE epierre

                        @Yveaux I know you are strong at finding datasheet... can you find one for me ? I can't find the 2SH12 sensor altgough I've asked for it to all suppliers on aliexpress...

                        Same for theWSP1110

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #49

                        @epierre Couldn't find it either, sorry...
                        I wouldn't buy a $52,- component without a datasheet, if I were you...

                        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                        • YveauxY Yveaux

                          @epierre Couldn't find it either, sorry...
                          I wouldn't buy a $52,- component without a datasheet, if I were you...

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                          epierre
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                          wrote on last edited by epierre
                          #50

                          @Yveaux When I asked for the WSP110 they sent me only this (not the same for this one is HCHO and well documented...) :

                          HTB1WamGGXXXXXXVXFXXq6xXFXXXS.jpg

                          z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                          rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                          mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                          • epierreE epierre

                            @Yveaux When I asked for the WSP110 they sent me only this (not the same for this one is HCHO and well documented...) :

                            HTB1WamGGXXXXXXVXFXXq6xXFXXXS.jpg

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #51

                            @epierre

                            I wonder what the green curve represents :confused:

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                            • hekH hek

                              @epierre

                              I wonder what the green curve represents :confused:

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                              epierre
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                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @hek that should be the more sensitive, and since it is given mostly for CHCO I guess this is it... (Formaldehyde)

                              z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                              rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                              mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                              • hekH hek

                                @epierre

                                I wonder what the green curve represents :confused:

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                                epierre
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                                @hek 甲醛 is formaldehyde, given by google translate so I'm right !

                                z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                                rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                                mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                                • epierreE epierre

                                  @hek 甲醛 is formaldehyde, given by google translate so I'm right !

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                                  #54

                                  @epierre

                                  Haha :thumbsup:

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                                    epierre
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                                    Davide answered me, lot of things to read but a warning:

                                    Anyway, for consistent CO2 investigaion, you HAVE to chose a NDIR sensor, those chemical sensor can not be used. They decay in a few year, and they differs a little one from each other.
                                    

                                    I've asked him back for precision if he speaks of the organic sensor or the ceramic ones (like MQ...).

                                    For the CO2, it is MH-Z14 which is $66+ priced.

                                    z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                                    rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                                    mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                                    • epierreE epierre

                                      Davide answered me, lot of things to read but a warning:

                                      Anyway, for consistent CO2 investigaion, you HAVE to chose a NDIR sensor, those chemical sensor can not be used. They decay in a few year, and they differs a little one from each other.
                                      

                                      I've asked him back for precision if he speaks of the organic sensor or the ceramic ones (like MQ...).

                                      For the CO2, it is MH-Z14 which is $66+ priced.

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                                      @epierre said:

                                      MH-Z14

                                      Like this little puppy?

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                                      • hekH hek

                                        @epierre said:

                                        MH-Z14

                                        Like this little puppy?

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                                        @hek exact !

                                        z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                                        rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                                        mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                                        • epierreE epierre

                                          @korttoma look above to S_CO2Sensor.json D_CO2Sensor.xml D_CO2Sensor.json, if you can test it...

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                                          @epierre said:

                                          @korttoma look above to S_CO2Sensor.json D_CO2Sensor.xml D_CO2Sensor.json, if you can test it...

                                          Thanks, found the device files and got the device included again.
                                          Seems like my MQ-2 is always reporting 0 or nothing at all. I guess I need to try to calibrate it again.
                                          It will do the calibration every time the sensor is restarted right?
                                          How can I calibrate the sensor if I put it somewhere where the air is not clean enough? (bring clean air in a jar? ;) )

                                          Maybe it would be an idea to add a calibration button to the mix and when run using the button it would save the calibration related data in the RAM so it can then always use this calibrated value and then it would not re-calibrate every time it loses power.
                                          I have the 10k resistor between GND and A0, is this really necessary?
                                          Does the potentiometer on the sensor board affect the analog out at all or is it only for sensitivity on the digital out?

                                          Sorry for all the questions ;)

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