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  • YveauxY Yveaux

    @Damme I use a standard Ethernet gateway for mysensors and convert the mysensors messages using a quite simple Perl script running on my server (also not using RPI, so who cares about performance ;-) ).
    This script automatically publishes and subscribes to the mosquito MQTT broker, also running on the server. Works quite well!

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    @Yveaux do you want to share? I am still waiting for my ethernet sheild so I cant do much programming there yet but would be fun to try out the mqtt protocol.. :)

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    • DammeD Damme

      @Yveaux do you want to share? I am still waiting for my ethernet sheild so I cant do much programming there yet but would be fun to try out the mqtt protocol.. :)

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      @Damme Ok, take a look at https://github.com/Yveaux/MySensors_MQTTGateway
      No documentation or getting started yet, no time :-1: Sorry...

      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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      • YveauxY Yveaux

        @Damme Ok, take a look at https://github.com/Yveaux/MySensors_MQTTGateway
        No documentation or getting started yet, no time :-1: Sorry...

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        @Yveaux

        Nice. Forked it from MySensors-github so people will find it easier.

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        • hekH hek

          @Yveaux

          Nice. Forked it from MySensors-github so people will find it easier.

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          #39

          @hek Thanks! But I really need to start on my blog to document all the stuff I do... I'm afraid it isn't really self-documentary...

          http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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          • YveauxY Yveaux

            @hek Thanks! But I really need to start on my blog to document all the stuff I do... I'm afraid it isn't really self-documentary...

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            @Yveaux I made it work but with lots of changes, first I use serial and not ethernet on the arduino, and then I didnt find the AnyEvent::MQTT, I use Net:MQTT instead. So basically its not much left of your original script, but it was just for testing MQTT a bit.

            I think it would direcly in arduino..

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            • YveauxY Yveaux

              @Damme Ok, take a look at https://github.com/Yveaux/MySensors_MQTTGateway
              No documentation or getting started yet, no time :-1: Sorry...

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              @Yveaux I have the classic one : https://github.com/empierre/domoticz?files=1

              but since you're perling I can contribute... and maybe add/create the imperihome rest intetface on top... but You'll have to overcome some isdues related to the absence of UI

              z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
              rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
              mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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              • epierreE epierre

                @Yveaux I have the classic one : https://github.com/empierre/domoticz?files=1

                but since you're perling I can contribute... and maybe add/create the imperihome rest intetface on top... but You'll have to overcome some isdues related to the absence of UI

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                #42

                @epierre I'm afraid I don't get you...
                So you're on domoticz, and you already have a gateway to mysensors?
                Why do you want to switch to MQTT then?

                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                • YveauxY Yveaux

                  @epierre I'm afraid I don't get you...
                  So you're on domoticz, and you already have a gateway to mysensors?
                  Why do you want to switch to MQTT then?

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                  @Yveaux no I mean to make a mysensors gateway to imperihomr

                  z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                  rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                  mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                  • epierreE epierre

                    @Yveaux no I mean to make a mysensors gateway to imperihomr

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                    @epierre You could use my code as a start to connect to a mysensors Ethernet gateway and read/send messages, but it is really meant to bridge to MQTT protocol, and you don't need that, right?

                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                    • DammeD Damme

                      @Yveaux I made it work but with lots of changes, first I use serial and not ethernet on the arduino, and then I didnt find the AnyEvent::MQTT, I use Net:MQTT instead. So basically its not much left of your original script, but it was just for testing MQTT a bit.

                      I think it would direcly in arduino..

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                      @Damme I did start with an arduino implementation buy as MQTT is text-based I needed quite some flash to store all the strings to convert the mysensors variable names and stuff.
                      This filled up my atmega328 almost completely and I got tired of all the trickery required to stay within the 32kb. I just wanted to prove and test the cooperation of my sensors and MQTT.
                      Then I realized the MQTT broker had to run on a 'heavier' platform anyway and decided that also my gateway could -- I see no use to stuff everything into an arduino.

                      If you're interested I can share the arduino implementation, but I no longer see the use for it.

                      If your changes improved my implementation then please share them with us :+1:

                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                      • YveauxY Yveaux

                        @Damme I did start with an arduino implementation buy as MQTT is text-based I needed quite some flash to store all the strings to convert the mysensors variable names and stuff.
                        This filled up my atmega328 almost completely and I got tired of all the trickery required to stay within the 32kb. I just wanted to prove and test the cooperation of my sensors and MQTT.
                        Then I realized the MQTT broker had to run on a 'heavier' platform anyway and decided that also my gateway could -- I see no use to stuff everything into an arduino.

                        If you're interested I can share the arduino implementation, but I no longer see the use for it.

                        If your changes improved my implementation then please share them with us :+1:

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                        @Yveaux My script is not better than yours, I kind of broke it.. :)

                        I had a thought that the atmega328 isn't enough, one option is to have external flash but no program code can be stoored there. The 32kb is still very limiting.
                        I had a thought of atmega2560, there is one model with build in ethernet and some with external, total cost ~30USD. It has 256KB flash memory.
                        So, yes I would be interessed in yout arduino code.. I might be able to slim the program down.. :)

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                          filoucaenais
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                          Hello
                          go Jeedom
                          the project progresses faster
                          and I motivated to make a plugin for MySensors
                          there will be more people motivate
                          faster plugin advance

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                          • DammeD Damme

                            @Yveaux My script is not better than yours, I kind of broke it.. :)

                            I had a thought that the atmega328 isn't enough, one option is to have external flash but no program code can be stoored there. The 32kb is still very limiting.
                            I had a thought of atmega2560, there is one model with build in ethernet and some with external, total cost ~30USD. It has 256KB flash memory.
                            So, yes I would be interessed in yout arduino code.. I might be able to slim the program down.. :)

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                            @Damme My code does only implement a MQTT client, not the broker. But if you still want it, chat me your email and I'll send it to you.

                            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                            • YveauxY Yveaux

                              @Damme My code does only implement a MQTT client, not the broker. But if you still want it, chat me your email and I'll send it to you.

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                              @Yveaux Ah, I been writing a broker, just need a new Ethernet controller to continue, hope it will arrive tomorrow.

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                              • F filoucaenais

                                Hello
                                go Jeedom
                                the project progresses faster
                                and I motivated to make a plugin for MySensors
                                there will be more people motivate
                                faster plugin advance

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                                epierre
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                                @filoucaenais so bad all the core features in the market are to be bought... and that only zway which is now dying is supported, not openzwave...

                                @bjornhallberg @Damme even domoticz guy are pushing people to use something better than raspberry... for a little more you have a cubieboard2 which has 1Go RAM and 2 cores @ 2011 bogomips... For z-wave OpenHab is still the best choice...

                                z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                                mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                                • epierreE epierre

                                  @filoucaenais so bad all the core features in the market are to be bought... and that only zway which is now dying is supported, not openzwave...

                                  @bjornhallberg @Damme even domoticz guy are pushing people to use something better than raspberry... for a little more you have a cubieboard2 which has 1Go RAM and 2 cores @ 2011 bogomips... For z-wave OpenHab is still the best choice...

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                                  @epierre Yes there are a lot better options out there, but I'm not going to buy a new platform just so I can run JAVA ;-) Nothing in this price range is going to be fast enough for that I suspect. Faster, sure, but not fast as in virtually instantaneous.

                                  I actually tried openhab2 branch on the RPi just a few minutes ago. Slow Sunday, I know. Don't know if it has been optimized yet as promised but it took about 4 minutes to start. And then it used up 25% of available RAM right out of the box, running the demo config. Would be interesting to see how fast it boots on a cubieboard2 or similar. Even if it could get it down to a minute it would be a minute too much imo. Perhaps it will run fine after it's been loaded, but those loading times were enough to deter me. I mean, in 4 minutes your house could get burgled several times over ;-) I just don't see what openhab has to offer that is worth all that.

                                  The reason I got a RPi was the camera module. And the extremely wide support for the platform. I swore I would never touch an ARM platform again after my first Android phone and my Synology NAS but I guess the price (and camera) got the better of me. I also don't have any z-wave devices.

                                  On a side note, I've ordered another Arduino Uno Ethernet Shield to complete the bridge to the MQTT broker. I will just have to find some automation software that will run fine on the Pi.

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                                  • bjornhallbergB bjornhallberg

                                    @epierre Yes there are a lot better options out there, but I'm not going to buy a new platform just so I can run JAVA ;-) Nothing in this price range is going to be fast enough for that I suspect. Faster, sure, but not fast as in virtually instantaneous.

                                    I actually tried openhab2 branch on the RPi just a few minutes ago. Slow Sunday, I know. Don't know if it has been optimized yet as promised but it took about 4 minutes to start. And then it used up 25% of available RAM right out of the box, running the demo config. Would be interesting to see how fast it boots on a cubieboard2 or similar. Even if it could get it down to a minute it would be a minute too much imo. Perhaps it will run fine after it's been loaded, but those loading times were enough to deter me. I mean, in 4 minutes your house could get burgled several times over ;-) I just don't see what openhab has to offer that is worth all that.

                                    The reason I got a RPi was the camera module. And the extremely wide support for the platform. I swore I would never touch an ARM platform again after my first Android phone and my Synology NAS but I guess the price (and camera) got the better of me. I also don't have any z-wave devices.

                                    On a side note, I've ordered another Arduino Uno Ethernet Shield to complete the bridge to the MQTT broker. I will just have to find some automation software that will run fine on the Pi.

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                                    @bjornhallberg on my cubie (paid $50 with a box), I have imperihome gateway, mysensors gateway, jeedom, domoticz and openhab running... load: 0,6 more than 200 Mo ram available even with kernel cache...

                                    remember that the pi has no FPU... BogoMIPS : 464.48 ...

                                    z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                    rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                                    mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                                    • epierreE epierre

                                      @filoucaenais so bad all the core features in the market are to be bought... and that only zway which is now dying is supported, not openzwave...

                                      @bjornhallberg @Damme even domoticz guy are pushing people to use something better than raspberry... for a little more you have a cubieboard2 which has 1Go RAM and 2 cores @ 2011 bogomips... For z-wave OpenHab is still the best choice...

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                                      @epierre said:

                                      even domoticz guy are pushing people to use something better than raspberry... for a little more you have a cubieboard2 which has 1Go RAM and 2 cores @ 2011 bogomips... For z-wave OpenHab is still the best choice...

                                      Ok, ordered myself a cubieboard2 to have something to compare with the RPi.

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                                        @epierre said:

                                        even domoticz guy are pushing people to use something better than raspberry... for a little more you have a cubieboard2 which has 1Go RAM and 2 cores @ 2011 bogomips... For z-wave OpenHab is still the best choice...

                                        Ok, ordered myself a cubieboard2 to have something to compare with the RPi.

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                                        #54

                                        @hek if you want to stay on a debian (as raspi), you can try from the SD this one: http://www.cubieforums.com/index.php/topic,1275.0.html

                                        Kernel is quite new (not the official 3.4.75 but a 3.4.98 with temp sensor and watchdog), it is minimal so if you compile you'll add to add packages that are not present by default.

                                        I moved because I aded dynamic linking to lua to acess sqlite3 from scripts, but it was reverted because of NAS users having compilation issues... compiling omoticz on raspi took more than 1 hour... on cubie a lot less !

                                        Even better is the odroid, but it is yet another class (quad core, 4GB DDR3, Ekynos SoC of the samsung S3). More like an AMM counter ;-)

                                        z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                        rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                                        mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                                          Hi I'm John and i'm developing PiDome together with a friend of mine.

                                          The project is in an early stage and we just a couple of days ago are starting to support existing devices (Philips Hue was the first) and are going to include native MySensors support. When it will be included exactly i can not tell but it will be between now and some weeks. The main reason for this is that i'm doing the software and this friend of mine the hardware. So we are just two developers.

                                          The project is aimed at the raspberry pi but being based on java, it will not prevent it will also run on other systems (windows services are in test fase for example). The project also exists of multiple sub projects. Like the server, Desktop OS like/small application and an Android app.
                                          It supports websockets, raw sockets and webservice json-rpc entrypoint all these have secure and non secure ports, visual trigger editor (if this then that (else is on it's way)), floor planner (multiple floors).

                                          It is an ambitious but in very early stage project with currently only quick follow up alpha releases and a lot, lot of testing. Maybe at some point it will be interesting when the MySensors support is built in and people are willing to test it.

                                          [edit]
                                          A little video about the project is posted here: http://pidome.wordpress.com/2014/05/28/pidome-explained-in-a-video-clip-with-web-interface-demo/

                                          My Domotica project: http://www.pidome.org

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