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My Slim 2AA Battery Node

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  • m26872M m26872

    @AWI Great idea with the strips! And thanks for verifying (v1.2?).

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    @m26872 I think I used version 1.1? Did you change any of the wiring in the newer versions?

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      @m26872
      200pcs!! What the heck are you up to?

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      @hek
      hehe, I had a hunch it'd be spectacular. Let's just say that I aim to have a few single sensor/purpose sleeping nodes, but probably not 200. At least not in a while.

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        @m26872 I think I used version 1.1? Did you change any of the wiring in the newer versions?

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        @AWI Ops sorry, I meant v1.0. I see the larger pads in your pics. The routing is a little different to 1.2 and 1.4. Mostly related components under the uC.

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          Very nice design. Any video on installation of bootloader with various settings described in the original post?.

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            Very nice design. Any video on installation of bootloader with various settings described in the original post?.

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            @ar91 Thx. Sorry no. I don't know of any and I'm too shy to do it myself.

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              Great idea using this housing.

              Why didn't you use CR batteries to decrease size ?
              http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/CR1220/P033-ND/269740

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                2AA batteries have approximately 2000mAh capacity. CR1220 has 35mAh. So for the same capacity, more than 50 CR1220 would be needed. That wouldn't save space :)
                But CR1220 has lower self-discharge so they can be a good alternative for things that are really low-power, or don't need long battery life.

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                • ahmedadelhosniA ahmedadelhosni

                  Great idea using this housing.

                  Why didn't you use CR batteries to decrease size ?
                  http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/CR1220/P033-ND/269740

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                  @ahmedadelhosni I've read a few reports from people with radio module issues after some time on CR "coin cell" batteries. The expected battery life time then doesn't match the result. I think you can find references by searching.

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                    m26872, I just wanted to say thank you for your work on this project and for sharing it with everybody. :+1:
                    I've just ordered the ATMEGAs to build 5 nodes.
                    How confident are you about the V1.4 PCB ? If you don't see any issue with them at this point I think I'll take the whopping $14 risk :yum:

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                      Aha..now I understood the reason. Thanks

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                      • M martkrui

                        m26872, I just wanted to say thank you for your work on this project and for sharing it with everybody. :+1:
                        I've just ordered the ATMEGAs to build 5 nodes.
                        How confident are you about the V1.4 PCB ? If you don't see any issue with them at this point I think I'll take the whopping $14 risk :yum:

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                        @martkrui I'm not confident until I've tested one, but usually errors can be fixed with some ugly mods if necessary. ;-)

                        BTW I added to the info that any/every DirtyPCB money from this share will be donated to MySensors.org.

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                          Like the board and ordered it. Can you also post exactly the capacitor types? Keep up the good work.

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                            I also ordered the PCBs (at my own risk) and some of "TMK-T20 20mm 17mm"
                            I'll try to CNC or 3Dprint some endcaps or something.

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                              Like the board and ordered it. Can you also post exactly the capacitor types? Keep up the good work.

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                              @betonishard There aren't any exact values or types, but good start would be

                              Near the radio supply: One radial electrolytic >=4.7uF >=10V capacitor together with one ceramic (range 1pF - 1uF. I use different.).

                              The rest (C1, C2, C3): 0.1uF ceramic, where the value probably matters most for C2 (the Reset capacitor)

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                              • m26872M m26872

                                @betonishard There aren't any exact values or types, but good start would be

                                Near the radio supply: One radial electrolytic >=4.7uF >=10V capacitor together with one ceramic (range 1pF - 1uF. I use different.).

                                The rest (C1, C2, C3): 0.1uF ceramic, where the value probably matters most for C2 (the Reset capacitor)

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                                @m26872
                                Thanks... Maybe it is answered, but I didn't quite catch it. 3v will be fed to the radio, but isn't the 3.3 important instead of 3v? I don't see any stepup. Is your range acceptible?

                                Thanks...

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                                  The radio can handle as low as 1.9V (source)

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                                    I have had a node sending messages as low as 1.65V :-)

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                                      @mfalkvidd @GertSanders Thanks for your answers!! How about the range, I know it is depending on the quality of Chinese products, however can you give an estimate regarding your setups?

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                                        Short answer: Expect about the same range as a regular wifi card.
                                        Long answer: Look at these informative and quite entertaining videos:
                                        Ultimate nRF24L01 range comparison
                                        nRF24L01 range test (arduino)
                                        nRF24L01 range test part 2 (arduino)

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                                          I was about to order the 1.4v of your board before that i wanted to ask you a basic question, do i need to use any step up regulator to connect any 5v sensors? Have you connected any 5v sensors, if yes could you please post some pictures?

                                          Thanks again for the great work.

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