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My Slim 2AA Battery Node

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  • dpressleD Offline
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    #361

    Thanks, i see its 6.8 uA now, i had something wrong with my measurements :disappointed:

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      #362

      It took me a while, but I just figured out how to get a bootloader burned onto the chip and I'm ready to make my slim nodes! Which board type in Arduino IDE do I use to program the chip once I'm using the 6 pin header after it's installed in the PCB?

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      • JonnyDev13J JonnyDev13

        It took me a while, but I just figured out how to get a bootloader burned onto the chip and I'm ready to make my slim nodes! Which board type in Arduino IDE do I use to program the chip once I'm using the 6 pin header after it's installed in the PCB?

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        #363

        @JonnyDev13 Make a new board type by editing "boards.txt". There's an example in the first post.

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          #364

          Hi there! I need to buy some PCBs on Dirty PCBs but the URL http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=13847&accesskey= seems broken. Any ideas? Thanks!

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          • ร รอเรือ

            Hi there! I need to buy some PCBs on Dirty PCBs but the URL http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=13847&accesskey= seems broken. Any ideas? Thanks!

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            #365

            @รอเรือ Apparently they've moved to a new site. Perhaps you can try this link: http://dev.dirtypcbs.com/store/designer/details/m26872/663/myslim2aabatterynodepcbv2-0panelized

            I think you must have a user account and login first. Please report back if it's working or not.

            Edit: Wrong link the first time.

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            • m26872M m26872

              @รอเรือ Apparently they've moved to a new site. Perhaps you can try this link: http://dev.dirtypcbs.com/store/designer/details/m26872/663/myslim2aabatterynodepcbv2-0panelized

              I think you must have a user account and login first. Please report back if it's working or not.

              Edit: Wrong link the first time.

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              #366

              Thanks @m26872

              That link didn't work either. However, by browsing all the shared PCBs I found this URL That link is accessible without logging in first.

              Cheers

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              • ร รอเรือ

                Thanks @m26872

                That link didn't work either. However, by browsing all the shared PCBs I found this URL That link is accessible without logging in first.

                Cheers

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                #367

                @รอเรือ Thanks a lot! All links are now changed.

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                  #368

                  Hey im building my first slim node and i wonder if someone has a sketch for 2 reed switches? i have found the sketch for only 1 reed switch in this thread. Im going to use it for my mailbox. How long do u think it can run on 2x aa batteries?
                  Do i have to add 2x 10M resistors? or doesnt it work with external resistors then using more then 1 reed switch?

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                    Hey im building my first slim node and i wonder if someone has a sketch for 2 reed switches? i have found the sketch for only 1 reed switch in this thread. Im going to use it for my mailbox. How long do u think it can run on 2x aa batteries?
                    Do i have to add 2x 10M resistors? or doesnt it work with external resistors then using more then 1 reed switch?

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                    #369

                    @Eawo The example sketch should fit your needs. link Change the pull-ups activation to Low if you use external ones.
                    I'd expect battery life 5-10 years depending on things such mailbox opening frequency, use of heartbeat signal, battery self discharge and climate.

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                    • E Eawo

                      Hey im building my first slim node and i wonder if someone has a sketch for 2 reed switches? i have found the sketch for only 1 reed switch in this thread. Im going to use it for my mailbox. How long do u think it can run on 2x aa batteries?
                      Do i have to add 2x 10M resistors? or doesnt it work with external resistors then using more then 1 reed switch?

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                      @Eawo Using internal resistors will only give you a few months battery time. One external pull-up for each switch will work and 1M resistors or any arbitrary "high" value is just as good.

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                        Thanks
                        ok now my problem is uploading the sketch it wont work on 1mhz bootloader i tried both a and b hex and the 2 diffrent Board.txt.
                        I get it to work with the 8Mhz breadboard bootloader.
                        But then using 1mhz bootloaders it always timesout

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                          after a few hours frustration i went donwstars grabbed 2x new atmega328p breadboards and wolla everything works :). I Think i burned my first to putting them in the socket wrong.

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                            i have wired everything but it wont work for me :( i have solder the 2 reed switch from gnd to d2 and gnd to d3. and ive done the same 2 1m resistors. I can see the node in domotics but no activity then i open and close.

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                              i have wired everything but it wont work for me :( i have solder the 2 reed switch from gnd to d2 and gnd to d3. and ive done the same 2 1m resistors. I can see the node in domotics but no activity then i open and close.

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                              @Eawo
                              The reed switches need to sit between GND and D2 or D3 as you have connected.

                              The 1M pull up resistors need to connect between Vcc and D2 or D3.

                              This way D2 or D3 are electrically connected to Vcc when the switches are open (pulled high). When the switches close, D2 and D3 get connected to GND.

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                                I only come down to 12µA with one reed switch, 1MOhm pullup, 1Mhz bootloader and the binarySwitchSleepSketch. Measured with two different multimeters. This is nearly ten times higher than in the first posting. Changing all internal pullups to LOW doesn't change anything.

                                Is there a way to optimize the power consumption or is it "good enough" ?

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                                  I only come down to 12µA with one reed switch, 1MOhm pullup, 1Mhz bootloader and the binarySwitchSleepSketch. Measured with two different multimeters. This is nearly ten times higher than in the first posting. Changing all internal pullups to LOW doesn't change anything.

                                  Is there a way to optimize the power consumption or is it "good enough" ?

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                                  #376

                                  @rollercontainer For sub 8uA consumption you need to go to "deep sleep" where the internal timers of the processor are disabled. Only wake up on interrupt. sleep( interrupt1, FALLING, 0);

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                                    I only come down to 12µA with one reed switch, 1MOhm pullup, 1Mhz bootloader and the binarySwitchSleepSketch. Measured with two different multimeters. This is nearly ten times higher than in the first posting. Changing all internal pullups to LOW doesn't change anything.

                                    Is there a way to optimize the power consumption or is it "good enough" ?

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                                    #377

                                    @rollercontainer - I just build a slimnode and 13uA is without anything connected what i can reach as well.
                                    For comparison i aim below 100uA when i do this with pro mini and they last around a year with 2xAA so my guess is 13uA is good enough.

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                    • AWIA AWI

                                      @rollercontainer For sub 8uA consumption you need to go to "deep sleep" where the internal timers of the processor are disabled. Only wake up on interrupt. sleep( interrupt1, FALLING, 0);

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                                      @sundberg84: Thanks, so I will stick to my 12µA :-)

                                      @AWI: I am using sleep with Interrupt as in this example:

                                      sleep(PRIMARY_BUTTON_PIN-2, CHANGE, SECONDARY_BUTTON_PIN-2, CHANGE, 0);
                                      

                                      https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/blob/development/examples/BinarySwitchSleepSensor/BinarySwitchSleepSensor.ino#L120

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                                        @sundberg84: Thanks, so I will stick to my 12µA :-)

                                        @AWI: I am using sleep with Interrupt as in this example:

                                        sleep(PRIMARY_BUTTON_PIN-2, CHANGE, SECONDARY_BUTTON_PIN-2, CHANGE, 0);
                                        

                                        https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/blob/development/examples/BinarySwitchSleepSensor/BinarySwitchSleepSensor.ino#L120

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                                        @rollercontainer Your sleep looks good. Did you remove this piece of code?

                                        // Activate internal pull-ups
                                        	digitalWrite(PRIMARY_BUTTON_PIN, HIGH);
                                        	digitalWrite(SECONDARY_BUTTON_PIN, HIGH);
                                        

                                        Take a look at this thread for a < 1 uA consumption...

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                                          #380

                                          Since a few months I am very interested in Mysensors and this PCB. I have ordered the PCB and components to build some sensors as for a home security system. For experimental purpose I build one on a breadboard and that is working fine.
                                          A few days ago I started to solder the components on the PCB. The firs one is working fine, but the next sensors have an issue with the transceiver. After 3 boards failing I soldered one without the transceiver. Then I tested it by holding the transceiver at the board and it was working fine. After soldering the transceiver again a not working board.

                                          I tested one board by pressing another transceiver on top of the soldered one and I saw some communication in MYSController. The ATMega is still working on the breadboard. The PCB and Breadboard are powered by the same batterypack.

                                          Before soldering I tested all the transceivers with my breadboard and they are working fine. I am also using an anti-static bracelet.

                                          What am I doing wrong??
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