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  • J Jan Gatzke

    I noticed the many of you have an oscilloscope on their desk. What exactly do you use these for? There seems to be nothing under 200$ and I wonder if it is worth it.

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    wrote on last edited by AWI
    #106

    @Jan-Gatzke For MySensor I use it mostly for measuring response times and get a general idea of what is happening timewise. Especially if you have multiple event happening at the same time. Also for getting a grip on low power

    0_1494178043023_upload-98a17471-1641-4d3d-82af-3dda4bd4b185

    it gives a lot of information which would be very hard to measure with any other instrument. (for my other hobby, analog audio design, I couldn't live without it. ;-))

    A few considerations:

    1. It can be rather complicated using a scope in first instance. (a steep learning curve)
    2. Unless you are just curious and want to educate yourself I would strongly disencourage buying a cheap instrument. Better to study a few manuals of serious > €300 instruments, save a little and buy the thing you need (or can't resist). 10 years ago you had to put down > €1000 for something reasonable.
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    • AWIA AWI

      @Jan-Gatzke For MySensor I use it mostly for measuring response times and get a general idea of what is happening timewise. Especially if you have multiple event happening at the same time. Also for getting a grip on low power

      0_1494178043023_upload-98a17471-1641-4d3d-82af-3dda4bd4b185

      it gives a lot of information which would be very hard to measure with any other instrument. (for my other hobby, analog audio design, I couldn't live without it. ;-))

      A few considerations:

      1. It can be rather complicated using a scope in first instance. (a steep learning curve)
      2. Unless you are just curious and want to educate yourself I would strongly disencourage buying a cheap instrument. Better to study a few manuals of serious > €300 instruments, save a little and buy the thing you need (or can't resist). 10 years ago you had to put down > €1000 for something reasonable.
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      #107

      @AWI Troubleshooting power probolems with the nrf24 is a good example, thx. I think at the beginning it is more a nice to have than a must have. I am always curios for such things. Still I don't want to buy trash. I will read a bit and watch ebay for good offers. Thx for your explanation.

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        wrote on last edited by scalz
        #108

        As i'm actually tidying up thing, i can show some pics where i spend some tinkering time.

        0_1494186632144_20170501_133058.jpg
        I'm planning to renovate it, because i'm also missing place for my 3d printer and some others stuff.
        There is a lathe and a drill but it's for quick hurry work, there is another room for more dirty mechanical stuff.. but i can't show you, it's dirty :)

        0_1494186714267_20170501_133220.jpg
        My favorite tools :

        • my super mini TS100 solder iron. But if you ask me, for tiny SMD like DFN for instance, i prefer my Weller Magnastat with a 0.2mm tip. The tip is thinner even if i've bought the thinnest tip for the TS100.
        • hacked Rigol Ds1054Z. Really worth the price!
        • hacked T962 reflow oven. Very cool too (better for leaded solder though)
        • smd books
        • my magnifier of course!

        for the rest, there are also great tools like power supply, a spectrum analyzer, generators..

        0_1494187237909_20170507_213449.jpg
        My 1st 3d printer, i like it, works very well. I'm planning to build a new, bigger and enclosed one.

        Talking about soldering vise, i have this old tool i don't use it often, but when i need it, i'm happy to have it.
        0_1494187460902_20170507_212626.jpg
        I'm pretty sure this is not hard to reproduce with some T-Slots and so on ;)

        When you have a 3d printer, this thingiverse design can be helpful, for debugging stuff, or can be used for soldering but with care else plastic would melt.
        http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:801279

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          Koresh
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          wrote on last edited by Koresh
          #109

          I've been using new induction solderind gun for the last month. It is fantastiс. :satisfied: It has 120W power and warms up to 330С during 6-8s :astonished:
          0_1494192790584_IMG_2017-04-06_162131.jpg
          0_1494192807169_IMG_2017-04-06_142751.jpg

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            #110

            I am thinking to move to a soldering station, I looked at a hakko that looks quite decent for the price. What do you think?

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              #111

              I've got the feeling this thread is going to be extreme expensive for me. :)

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              • scalzS scalz

                As i'm actually tidying up thing, i can show some pics where i spend some tinkering time.

                0_1494186632144_20170501_133058.jpg
                I'm planning to renovate it, because i'm also missing place for my 3d printer and some others stuff.
                There is a lathe and a drill but it's for quick hurry work, there is another room for more dirty mechanical stuff.. but i can't show you, it's dirty :)

                0_1494186714267_20170501_133220.jpg
                My favorite tools :

                • my super mini TS100 solder iron. But if you ask me, for tiny SMD like DFN for instance, i prefer my Weller Magnastat with a 0.2mm tip. The tip is thinner even if i've bought the thinnest tip for the TS100.
                • hacked Rigol Ds1054Z. Really worth the price!
                • hacked T962 reflow oven. Very cool too (better for leaded solder though)
                • smd books
                • my magnifier of course!

                for the rest, there are also great tools like power supply, a spectrum analyzer, generators..

                0_1494187237909_20170507_213449.jpg
                My 1st 3d printer, i like it, works very well. I'm planning to build a new, bigger and enclosed one.

                Talking about soldering vise, i have this old tool i don't use it often, but when i need it, i'm happy to have it.
                0_1494187460902_20170507_212626.jpg
                I'm pretty sure this is not hard to reproduce with some T-Slots and so on ;)

                When you have a 3d printer, this thingiverse design can be helpful, for debugging stuff, or can be used for soldering but with care else plastic would melt.
                http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:801279

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                wrote on last edited by
                #112

                @scalz Your 3D printer looks like some of the CoreXY rebuilds I have seen some people do. I have an open frame Anet A8 that is doing fairly well. These are the ones that I have seen the CoreXY mods done on.

                Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                • scalzS scalz

                  As i'm actually tidying up thing, i can show some pics where i spend some tinkering time.

                  0_1494186632144_20170501_133058.jpg
                  I'm planning to renovate it, because i'm also missing place for my 3d printer and some others stuff.
                  There is a lathe and a drill but it's for quick hurry work, there is another room for more dirty mechanical stuff.. but i can't show you, it's dirty :)

                  0_1494186714267_20170501_133220.jpg
                  My favorite tools :

                  • my super mini TS100 solder iron. But if you ask me, for tiny SMD like DFN for instance, i prefer my Weller Magnastat with a 0.2mm tip. The tip is thinner even if i've bought the thinnest tip for the TS100.
                  • hacked Rigol Ds1054Z. Really worth the price!
                  • hacked T962 reflow oven. Very cool too (better for leaded solder though)
                  • smd books
                  • my magnifier of course!

                  for the rest, there are also great tools like power supply, a spectrum analyzer, generators..

                  0_1494187237909_20170507_213449.jpg
                  My 1st 3d printer, i like it, works very well. I'm planning to build a new, bigger and enclosed one.

                  Talking about soldering vise, i have this old tool i don't use it often, but when i need it, i'm happy to have it.
                  0_1494187460902_20170507_212626.jpg
                  I'm pretty sure this is not hard to reproduce with some T-Slots and so on ;)

                  When you have a 3d printer, this thingiverse design can be helpful, for debugging stuff, or can be used for soldering but with care else plastic would melt.
                  http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:801279

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #113

                  @scalz - that might be the most equipped workshop I have ever seen! So cool!

                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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                  • scalzS Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by scalz
                    #114

                    @gohan
                    clone soldering station? I have no xp about clones, but i know genuine Hakko have great reviews.
                    Problem with clones is they often have a bad temperature regulation, meaning you set to a temperature, and you get something too low or too high at the tip. Not so cool.
                    This youtube video is interesting to see the difference (not about hakko though)
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEEaLMv6dog
                    It confirmed to me to buy the TS100 but that's also because i wanted something mobile.
                    Not so easy to advice a solder station depends on what you need, perhaps hakko clone are reasonable choice but one sure thing, is clones or not, the tip quality is very important, and better to choose genuine for this.

                    @dbemowsk yep this is corexy. i choosed corexy system for its advantages. My next one will be another corexy (was tempted by delta) but this time 35x35cmx30 and with V-Slots and V-Wheels..

                    @sundberg84 yes very geek workshop, for maker, i enjoy it sure :)

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                    • scalzS scalz

                      @gohan
                      clone soldering station? I have no xp about clones, but i know genuine Hakko have great reviews.
                      Problem with clones is they often have a bad temperature regulation, meaning you set to a temperature, and you get something too low or too high at the tip. Not so cool.
                      This youtube video is interesting to see the difference (not about hakko though)
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEEaLMv6dog
                      It confirmed to me to buy the TS100 but that's also because i wanted something mobile.
                      Not so easy to advice a solder station depends on what you need, perhaps hakko clone are reasonable choice but one sure thing, is clones or not, the tip quality is very important, and better to choose genuine for this.

                      @dbemowsk yep this is corexy. i choosed corexy system for its advantages. My next one will be another corexy (was tempted by delta) but this time 35x35cmx30 and with V-Slots and V-Wheels..

                      @sundberg84 yes very geek workshop, for maker, i enjoy it sure :)

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                      #115

                      @scalz said in Your workshop :):

                      corexy

                      I think many guys envy your 2 lab:-)

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                        #116

                        I am one of those, but honestly I don't know if I'll ever have the time to use all that stuff :D

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                          hek
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                          It's not who's got the most stuff that wins. It's what you actually end up building. :)

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                            It's not who's got the most stuff that wins. It's what you actually end up building. :)

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                            Yveaux
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                            @hek I'm afraid @scalz is hard to beat on that too :-)

                            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                            • scalzS scalz

                              @gohan
                              clone soldering station? I have no xp about clones, but i know genuine Hakko have great reviews.
                              Problem with clones is they often have a bad temperature regulation, meaning you set to a temperature, and you get something too low or too high at the tip. Not so cool.
                              This youtube video is interesting to see the difference (not about hakko though)
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEEaLMv6dog
                              It confirmed to me to buy the TS100 but that's also because i wanted something mobile.
                              Not so easy to advice a solder station depends on what you need, perhaps hakko clone are reasonable choice but one sure thing, is clones or not, the tip quality is very important, and better to choose genuine for this.

                              @dbemowsk yep this is corexy. i choosed corexy system for its advantages. My next one will be another corexy (was tempted by delta) but this time 35x35cmx30 and with V-Slots and V-Wheels..

                              @sundberg84 yes very geek workshop, for maker, i enjoy it sure :)

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                              Koresh
                              Contest Winner
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                              #119

                              @scalz your workshop is really profesional. It is golden opportunity for infinitely creativity. And of course it is extremely clear. I am impressed :)

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                                @scalz - I would love to have your setup dude! Your coreXY printer looks a little bulky underneath and taking up some build volume but i'm guessing you never hit a problem with that anyway so no issues. I too like the CoreXY designs. I think my next one will be a D-Bot as i've printed about 6 sets of parts for that printer for people and it seems a very solid printer. My current one is a Wilson 2 design (will upload some more photos here soon of my equipment), but would like a second one. However, as i still live at home with my parent, having an area like you have is just not available for me right now :(

                                I'm a Hakko user, and i would like to ask you to not purchase a fake. Not only are they bad at temperature regulation, they are also very unsafe from what i have read. Purchase at your own risk! I use a FX888D, i would prefer the analogue version with the knob on the front but this does the same but with a slightly more awkward temperature adjustment. Heat-up time is very quick and that is the huge added bonus for me.

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                                  wrote on last edited by scalz
                                  #121

                                  @Samuel235 i know the d-bot, it's a nice printer (mine is older). but i'm planning to use as much as possible aluminium on my next one. I think it's too bad to use aluminium slots, with printed parts for the corners etc.. So i've picked ideas from multiple designs to make a new custom one.

                                  There are still a few tools i'm missing though ;)

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                                    @Samuel235 i know the d-bot, it's a nice printer (mine is older). but i'm planning to use as much as possible aluminium on my next one. I think it's too bad to use aluminium slots, with printed parts for the corners etc.. So i've picked ideas from multiple designs to make a new custom one.

                                    There are still a few tools i'm missing though ;)

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                                    @scalz - I love to see custom hybrids of solid printers! If you make a blog post or something on your new build at any point please drop me a link to it so i can have a look :)

                                    What could you possibly be missing when you're doing this at a hobby level? o.O

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                                    Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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                                      @scalz - I love to see custom hybrids of solid printers! If you make a blog post or something on your new build at any point please drop me a link to it so i can have a look :)

                                      What could you possibly be missing when you're doing this at a hobby level? o.O

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                                      @Samuel235 said in Your workshop :):

                                      What could you possibly be missing when you're doing this at a hobby level? o.O

                                      Laser cutter? :satisfied:

                                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                        @Samuel235 said in Your workshop :):

                                        What could you possibly be missing when you're doing this at a hobby level? o.O

                                        Laser cutter? :satisfied:

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                                        @Yveaux - He doesn't need any more encoraging!

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                                          I have to say, my slightly modded Anet A8 printer that I bought recently has been doing pretty good. I had been looking at some point to migrating the electronics to a coreXY frame, but that probably won't be any time soon.Besides, it does what I need for now..

                                          Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                                          Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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