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  • gohanG Offline
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    gohan
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    #195

    Those draw quite some energy, you'd better remove them and see from there

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    • BarnaB Barna

      Hi Sundberg84,

      I have some v8 and now enough time for playing.
      I setup with v3.3 2xAA, booster, NRF24, simple door sensor or DHT.
      1-2 week and the batteries are discharged, I hear little buzz from the mini or other components.
      This is the 2nd built where I meet this problem.
      Do you have any idea what component is the failed ?
      thanks
      Barna

      dbemowskD Offline
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      #196

      @Barna What if you used a setup like this:
      0_1510936047717_upload-c0db2caa-660d-4a18-a9a9-c9c2cf96935c
      The 3volt tap can be used to power the arduino, and the DHT can be run from the 4.5v. With that you wouldn't need the step up booster.

      Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
      Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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      • sundberg84S sundberg84

        @sincze - and you use the right power source on the PCB? (VCC = 5v and 3.3v = Well... 3.3v) Please send pictures of both setup as mentioned.

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        MySensors Evangelist
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        #197

        @sundberg84 @dbemowsk Thank you guys for still trying to help me. I almost gave up on using a Dallas Termp sensor o n a pro mini. As said I even tried connecting the temp sensor directly to the pins with same results. If I connect the pins to my nano, it is being detected and transmitting temp values. I even used a different sketch.. Just for the temp sensor. link found_here. Changed it to use Pin 3 ofcourse. I even connected the whole thing to D2 (resistor back in the wires)... without being succesful either.

        0_1510938558966_Dallas Not Detected.png

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        • sinczeS sincze

          @sundberg84 @dbemowsk Thank you guys for still trying to help me. I almost gave up on using a Dallas Termp sensor o n a pro mini. As said I even tried connecting the temp sensor directly to the pins with same results. If I connect the pins to my nano, it is being detected and transmitting temp values. I even used a different sketch.. Just for the temp sensor. link found_here. Changed it to use Pin 3 ofcourse. I even connected the whole thing to D2 (resistor back in the wires)... without being succesful either.

          0_1510938558966_Dallas Not Detected.png

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          wrote on last edited by
          #198

          @sincze Are you sure you sure you got correct power on the GND and VCC pins on the MySX connector?

          Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
          Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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          • dbemowskD dbemowsk

            @sincze Are you sure you sure you got correct power on the GND and VCC pins on the MySX connector?

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            sincze
            MySensors Evangelist
            wrote on last edited by
            #199

            @dbemowsk I had those thoughts as well.
            0_1510946155798_Dallas Voltage.png
            The voltage should be okay. I can solder a new Arduino Pro Mini and see if that one wants to work with me ;-)

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            • sundberg84S Offline
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              wrote on last edited by
              #200

              Dallas temp sensors needs 3.3v VCC if I remember right. Not 5v.

              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
              RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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              • sundberg84S sundberg84

                Dallas temp sensors needs 3.3v VCC if I remember right. Not 5v.

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                MySensors Evangelist
                wrote on last edited by sincze
                #201

                @sundberg84 haha yes i was wondering that myself so tried it connecting it to 3,3v as well. However on the 5v nano working just fine. Technical specs tell me: Power supply range is 3.0V to 5.5V
                also mysensors link
                Pretty strange huh.

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                • sinczeS sincze

                  @sundberg84 haha yes i was wondering that myself so tried it connecting it to 3,3v as well. However on the 5v nano working just fine. Technical specs tell me: Power supply range is 3.0V to 5.5V
                  also mysensors link
                  Pretty strange huh.

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                  sundberg84
                  Hardware Contributor
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #202

                  @sincze my mistake. Really strange this... Should work just fine. Can you upload a better resolution picture of your hardware and the sketch you are using?

                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                  • sinczeS sincze

                    @sundberg84 haha yes i was wondering that myself so tried it connecting it to 3,3v as well. However on the 5v nano working just fine. Technical specs tell me: Power supply range is 3.0V to 5.5V
                    also mysensors link
                    Pretty strange huh.

                    zboblamontZ Offline
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                    #203

                    @sincze I have 10 of these DS18B20s strung over approximately 12m monitoring all rooms on both floors of my house and two side lofts, all running on 3.22v from a Pro-Mini. Never have skipped a beat, reporting every 5 minutes, well, aside from a telephone socket which pins went walkabout (the chips are crimped to RJ11s).
                    There is something not right with the physical arrangement if you can get the same circuit to report at 5v...

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                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

                      @sincze my mistake. Really strange this... Should work just fine. Can you upload a better resolution picture of your hardware and the sketch you are using?

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                      sincze
                      MySensors Evangelist
                      wrote on last edited by sincze
                      #204

                      @sundberg84 I just soldered a myself a new out of the box pro mini using the same sketch..

                      10246 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=4,st=OK:21.0
                      250560 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:21.1
                      255019 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:22.3
                      259476 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:23.8
                      263934 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:25.3
                      268393 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.5
                      272851 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.6
                      277310 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.1
                      281768 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.4
                      290677 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.3
                      295136 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.1
                      299594 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.8
                      304053 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.6
                      308511 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.3
                      312970 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.1
                      317428 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.8
                      321887 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.6
                      326345 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.4

                      Victory... :)

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                      • gohanG Offline
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                        gohan
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #205

                        Was the pro mini defective or just the pin you were using?

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                        • gohanG gohan

                          Was the pro mini defective or just the pin you were using?

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                          sincze
                          MySensors Evangelist
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #206

                          @gohan Don't know. Pin3 could be used to drive the led tx without problems. It only did not work with the temp sensors. I moved the temp sensor to d2.... modified the sketch and it did not work as well. and d2 was driveing rx led. So well root cause unknown... solution: solder a new pro mini and keep the other one for different purpose.

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                          • sinczeS sincze

                            @gohan Don't know. Pin3 could be used to drive the led tx without problems. It only did not work with the temp sensors. I moved the temp sensor to d2.... modified the sketch and it did not work as well. and d2 was driveing rx led. So well root cause unknown... solution: solder a new pro mini and keep the other one for different purpose.

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #207

                            @sincze Did you use D2+D3 on all the same devices?

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #208

                              I'd try the other digital pins too

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                              • zboblamontZ zboblamont

                                @sincze Did you use D2+D3 on all the same devices?

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                                MySensors Evangelist
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #209

                                @zboblamont @gohan The Sensor with the replaced Pro Mini is in production now ;-). I'll start soldering a new Easy/Newbie PCB, because once you know how to do it... it is Easy and test the individual pins with a door/window sensor.

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                                  #210

                                  Hi Sundberg84,
                                  What could you advise for battery powering (remove led and regulator too) if I would like to use Mini 5V and measure the battery level too ?
                                  thx

                                  Barna

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                                  • BarnaB Barna

                                    Hi Sundberg84,
                                    What could you advise for battery powering (remove led and regulator too) if I would like to use Mini 5V and measure the battery level too ?
                                    thx

                                    Barna

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #211

                                    @Barna the 5v pro mini are running a 16mhz crystal as default and this needs higher voltage to be stable compred to 8mhz (3.3v pro mini).

                                    I have never tried this so can't give much advice but I would probably take the effort of reprogramming the fuses and bootloader to a internal 1mhz and run the hardware as that (the hardware is the same on 5v except the regulator and crystal )

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                    • BarnaB Barna

                                      Hi Sundberg84,
                                      What could you advise for battery powering (remove led and regulator too) if I would like to use Mini 5V and measure the battery level too ?
                                      thx

                                      Barna

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                                      gohan
                                      Mod
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #212

                                      @Barna why do you want to use a 5v arduino?

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                                        #213

                                        Hi Sundberg84,
                                        I have used this step up booster
                                        https://www.ebay.com/itm/181612513907?rmvSB=true

                                        but found this (2nd),
                                        https://www.ebay.com/itm/10Pcs-Mini-2-in-1-1-8V-5V-to-3-3V-DC-Step-Down-Step-Up-Converter-Power-For-Ardu/182793323053?hash=item2a8f54c22d:g:PJMAAOSwYL9ZzAXC
                                        It has lower noise, so I could connect the radio to the Mini. What do you think ?

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                                        • BarnaB Barna

                                          Hi Sundberg84,
                                          I have used this step up booster
                                          https://www.ebay.com/itm/181612513907?rmvSB=true

                                          but found this (2nd),
                                          https://www.ebay.com/itm/10Pcs-Mini-2-in-1-1-8V-5V-to-3-3V-DC-Step-Down-Step-Up-Converter-Power-For-Ardu/182793323053?hash=item2a8f54c22d:g:PJMAAOSwYL9ZzAXC
                                          It has lower noise, so I could connect the radio to the Mini. What do you think ?

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                                          wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                          #214

                                          @barna lower noice is better but I can not confirm this module is better. You have to try. Yes you can connect this to EasyPCB just like the first one.

                                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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