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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors

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  • sundberg84S Offline
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    sundberg84
    Hardware Contributor
    wrote on last edited by
    #107

    @Barna
    That is a hard question, because i try to do 3.3v for battery and 5v for regulated power.
    I have 1 node at this point running on a 9v battery and 5v arduino (motion detector) but without booster and battery measurment. I have removed led and at this point i have had it run for 4 weeks. I have NO clue about batterylife but I do not expect it to work pretty long.

    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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      #108

      mmmm i think that al this work, for a 4 weeks working sensor is not a good solution for a home automation system....
      Why can a Zwave or 433Mhz motion sensor work for more then a year...
      Is my biggest question..
      Forum link

      Is there relay now solution for a battery live for a year...
      Other bord, other sketch, other regulator, other battery...

      or...

      Domoticz, with a lot of working hardware, include mysensors :-)
      OpenPLI, RuneAudio, Solarmeter, etc......

      Not a great builder of software and hardware, more a user...
      Only i try to do my best :-(

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      • D Dylano

        mmmm i think that al this work, for a 4 weeks working sensor is not a good solution for a home automation system....
        Why can a Zwave or 433Mhz motion sensor work for more then a year...
        Is my biggest question..
        Forum link

        Is there relay now solution for a battery live for a year...
        Other bord, other sketch, other regulator, other battery...

        or...

        Sander TeunissenS Offline
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        Sander Teunissen
        wrote on last edited by
        #109

        @Dylano Google for low power arduino mini. Or arduino mini on battery. I've got one running now for half a year on two aaa batteries. Only lost 10% or something.
        (Quickest is to remove the led and the voltage regulator)

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        • sundberg84S Offline
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          sundberg84
          Hardware Contributor
          wrote on last edited by
          #110

          @Dylano Im not sure if I understand what you mean. This PCB does not support 433mhz or Zwave. You need to make that a question in the forum. I have nodes with this PCB now almost running for a year, and reporting good battery level.

          As Sander told you above, remove led and voltage regulator on a 3.3v arduino and you will run a mysensor node for a year:
          alt text

          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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              Alexander
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              @Sander-Teunissen I have some rev6 that I am willing to sell. Let me know if you are interested.

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              • OitzuO Offline
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                Oitzu
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                #113

                If someone has one of these left in germany or nearby i'm willing to buy one for daugther-board dev purposes.

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                • sundberg84S sundberg84

                  @Dylano Im not sure if I understand what you mean. This PCB does not support 433mhz or Zwave. You need to make that a question in the forum. I have nodes with this PCB now almost running for a year, and reporting good battery level.

                  As Sander told you above, remove led and voltage regulator on a 3.3v arduino and you will run a mysensor node for a year:
                  alt text

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                  lxz
                  wrote on last edited by lxz
                  #114

                  @sundberg84 said:

                  I have nodes with this PCB now almost running for a year, and reporting good battery level.

                  I see that battery measuring is not working in my case.
                  Can you post your sketch for a DHT22 or dallas sensor? Because readVCC.h does not work with a step up booster and 2x AA batteries connected, it seems..

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                    sundberg84
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                    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                    #115

                    @lxz This is my code (Note dev branch!) for DHT22 incl battery measuring (2xAA).
                    The reason for readVCC:h does not work is that you measure after the booster = always 3.3V!

                    // Enable debug prints
                    #define MY_DEBUG
                    
                    // Enable and select radio type attached
                    #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                    //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                    #define MY_NODE_ID 15
                    
                    #include <SPI.h>
                    #include <MySensor.h>  
                    #include <DHT.h>  
                    
                    #define CHILD_ID_HUM 0
                    #define CHILD_ID_TEMP 1
                    #define HUMIDITY_SENSOR_DIGITAL_PIN 3
                    unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 600000; // Sleep time between reads (in milliseconds)
                    
                    #define SKETCH_NAME "UtomhusHumSyd #15"                // Change to a fancy name you like
                    #define SKETCH_VERSION "1.0"                    // Your version
                    
                    DHT dht;
                    float lastTemp;
                    float lastHum;
                    boolean metric = true; 
                    MyMessage msgHum(CHILD_ID_HUM, V_HUM);
                    MyMessage msgTemp(CHILD_ID_TEMP, V_TEMP);
                    
                    //=========================
                    // BATTERY VOLTAGE DIVIDER SETUP
                    // 1M, 470K divider across battery and using internal ADC ref of 1.1V
                    // Sense point is bypassed with 0.1 uF cap to reduce noise at that point
                    // ((1e6+470e3)/470e3)*1.1 = Vmax = 3.44 Volts
                    // 3.44/1023 = Volts per bit = 0.003363075
                    #define VBAT_PER_BITS 0.003363075  
                    #define VMIN 1.9                                  //  Vmin (radio Min Volt)=1.9V (564v)
                    #define VMAX 3.0                                  //  Vmax = (2xAA bat)=3.0V (892v)
                    int batteryPcnt = 0;                              // Calc value for battery %
                    int batLoop = 0;                                  // Loop to help calc average
                    int batArray[3];                                  // Array to store value for average calc.
                    int BATTERY_SENSE_PIN = A0;                       // select the input pin for the battery sense point
                    //=========================
                    
                    void setup()  
                    { 
                     analogReference(INTERNAL);             // For battery sensing
                    
                      delay(500); // Allow time for radio if power used as reset
                      
                      dht.setup(HUMIDITY_SENSOR_DIGITAL_PIN); 
                    
                      metric = getConfig().isMetric;
                    }
                    
                    void presentation()  
                    { 
                      // Send the Sketch Version Information to the Gateway
                     // Send the Sketch Version Information to the Gateway
                      sendSketchInfo(SKETCH_NAME, SKETCH_VERSION);
                    
                      // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                      present(CHILD_ID_HUM, S_HUM);
                      present(CHILD_ID_TEMP, S_TEMP);
                    }
                    
                    void loop()      
                    {  
                      delay(500); // Allow time for radio if power used as reset
                      delay(dht.getMinimumSamplingPeriod());
                     
                      // Fetch temperatures from DHT sensor
                      float temperature = dht.getTemperature();
                      if (isnan(temperature)) {
                          Serial.println("Failed reading temperature from DHT");
                      } else if (temperature != lastTemp) {
                        lastTemp = temperature;
                        if (!metric) {
                          temperature = dht.toFahrenheit(temperature);
                        }
                        send(msgTemp.set(temperature, 1));
                        Serial.print("T: ");
                        Serial.println(temperature);
                      }
                      
                      // Fetch humidity from DHT sensor
                      float humidity = dht.getHumidity();
                      if (isnan(humidity)) {
                          Serial.println("Failed reading humidity from DHT");
                      } else if (humidity != lastHum) {
                          lastHum = humidity;
                          send(msgHum.set(humidity, 1));
                          Serial.print("H: ");
                          Serial.println(humidity);
                      }
                      batM();
                      sleep(SLEEP_TIME); //sleep a bit
                    }
                    
                    void batM() //The battery calculations
                    {
                       delay(500);
                       // Battery monitoring reading
                       int sensorValue = analogRead(BATTERY_SENSE_PIN);    
                       delay(500);
                       
                       // Calculate the battery in %
                       float Vbat  = sensorValue * VBAT_PER_BITS;
                       int batteryPcnt = static_cast<int>(((Vbat-VMIN)/(VMAX-VMIN))*100.);
                       Serial.print("Battery percent: "); Serial.print(batteryPcnt); Serial.println(" %");  
                       
                       // Add it to array so we get an average of 3 (3x20min)
                       batArray[batLoop] = batteryPcnt;
                      
                       if (batLoop > 2) {  
                         batteryPcnt = (batArray[0] + batArray[1] + batArray[2] + batArray[3]);
                         batteryPcnt = batteryPcnt / 3;
                     
                       if (batteryPcnt > 100) {
                         batteryPcnt=100;
                     }
                     
                         Serial.print("Battery Average (Send): "); Serial.print(batteryPcnt); Serial.println(" %");
                           sendBatteryLevel(batteryPcnt);
                           batLoop = 0;
                          }
                         else 
                         {
                         batLoop++;
                         }
                    }```

                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                    • pkriekP Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #116

                      Hi

                      I also bought v8 of these boards. 2 sensors up an running perfect.

                      2 others modules on the other hand, I think I fried the arduino. I am using 5v mini's. They worked when programming thru the USB port. Also communication with domoticz. They stopped working when I attached the 6v external adapter. I connected these to the ground and power connector. Now lights go on, but nothing anymore also not on the serial monitor.

                      Should I have used the raw connector????

                      thanks for helping

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                        sundberg84
                        Hardware Contributor
                        wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                        #117

                        Short answer - yes you should have used RAW. But at least you learned a lesson if you want to think positive. ☺

                        Try and see what happens if you change. Maybe they are still OK.

                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                          pkriek
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #118

                          thanks!, lessons learned indeed. . Great stuff though.

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #119

                            what size terminal blocks do you buy? I bought some and they are the wrong size.

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                            • scooter217S scooter217

                              what size terminal blocks do you buy? I bought some and they are the wrong size.

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                              Samuel235
                              Hardware Contributor
                              wrote on last edited by Samuel235
                              #120

                              @scooter217, from a quick inspection of the .brd file and a look around the internet for the datasheets it would seem that sundberg has allowed for any screw terminal block that uses a 5mm pin pitch. So you would need a 3 terminal 5mm pin pitch screw terminal. Please allow @sundberg84 some time to reply to ensure I am correct.

                              MySensors 2.1.1
                              Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
                              Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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                              • sundberg84S Offline
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                                sundberg84
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #121

                                @scooter217 : http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=20pcs+KF301-2P+2+Pin+Plug-in+Screw+Terminal+Block+Connector+5.08mm+Pitch&_id=181759858196&&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2658

                                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                  @scooter217 : http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=20pcs+KF301-2P+2+Pin+Plug-in+Screw+Terminal+Block+Connector+5.08mm+Pitch&_id=181759858196&&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2658

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                                  scooter217
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #122

                                  @sundberg84 Thank you, just ordered some from ebay!

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                                    wrote on last edited by Matt
                                    #123

                                    Hi Sundberg.
                                    First of all thanks for what you have done here, and hi from New Zealand.
                                    I have a problem though, sorry to be a hassle.
                                    I assembled my first board tonight and I dont get 3.3v across the NRF. It starts at 0.07V then falls down to 0 on my cheap meter. Same on the MYSX1.4 connector at 3.3 and gnd. Am getting 3.3 on the mini as well as VCC and GND on the MYSX area so the regulator is working. May be a short? Or a bad solder? Although they look good to me.... If so what solder joints should I redo? Any other ideas?
                                    Also, Ive traced back the VCC from the NRF and I cant see where it connects to a power source, either the battery in or the boost converter?
                                    0_1461234488858_MS.jpg

                                    Thanks,
                                    Matt

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                                      Hi Sundberg.
                                      First of all thanks for what you have done here, and hi from New Zealand.
                                      I have a problem though, sorry to be a hassle.
                                      I assembled my first board tonight and I dont get 3.3v across the NRF. It starts at 0.07V then falls down to 0 on my cheap meter. Same on the MYSX1.4 connector at 3.3 and gnd. Am getting 3.3 on the mini as well as VCC and GND on the MYSX area so the regulator is working. May be a short? Or a bad solder? Although they look good to me.... If so what solder joints should I redo? Any other ideas?
                                      Also, Ive traced back the VCC from the NRF and I cant see where it connects to a power source, either the battery in or the boost converter?
                                      0_1461234488858_MS.jpg

                                      Thanks,
                                      Matt

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                                      Hardware Contributor
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #124

                                      @Matt Hi Matt - tnx.

                                      Try to measure here: whats your reading?
                                      0_1461234892945_1.jpg
                                      if its 3.3v its your radio thats has some error... this is prettu much the last point before radio. Also measure VCC/GND under the pcb and not on top, what does it say?

                                      Sounds like a short or bad solder...

                                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                      • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                        @Matt Hi Matt - tnx.

                                        Try to measure here: whats your reading?
                                        0_1461234892945_1.jpg
                                        if its 3.3v its your radio thats has some error... this is prettu much the last point before radio. Also measure VCC/GND under the pcb and not on top, what does it say?

                                        Sounds like a short or bad solder...

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #125

                                        @sundberg84
                                        Ah crikey I think Im being thick, I just put a jumper across BAT connectors after tracing the lines and reading the manual, am now getting 2.8 at the NRF. Sorry for being a numpty. Still not picking up on my gateway, time to go to bed but will get the serial monitor running tomorrow....
                                        Thanks for the quick reply.

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                                          Valle
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #126

                                          Finally got my boards. In color: Yellow.
                                          If I would skip the Booster is the esiest thing to just wire Vi - Vo?

                                          0_1462250321694_IMG_4703.JPG

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