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      @Sander-Teunissen I have some rev6 that I am willing to sell. Let me know if you are interested.

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        If someone has one of these left in germany or nearby i'm willing to buy one for daugther-board dev purposes.

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        • sundberg84S sundberg84

          @Dylano Im not sure if I understand what you mean. This PCB does not support 433mhz or Zwave. You need to make that a question in the forum. I have nodes with this PCB now almost running for a year, and reporting good battery level.

          As Sander told you above, remove led and voltage regulator on a 3.3v arduino and you will run a mysensor node for a year:
          alt text

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          #114

          @sundberg84 said:

          I have nodes with this PCB now almost running for a year, and reporting good battery level.

          I see that battery measuring is not working in my case.
          Can you post your sketch for a DHT22 or dallas sensor? Because readVCC.h does not work with a step up booster and 2x AA batteries connected, it seems..

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            #115

            @lxz This is my code (Note dev branch!) for DHT22 incl battery measuring (2xAA).
            The reason for readVCC:h does not work is that you measure after the booster = always 3.3V!

            // Enable debug prints
            #define MY_DEBUG
            
            // Enable and select radio type attached
            #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
            //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
            #define MY_NODE_ID 15
            
            #include <SPI.h>
            #include <MySensor.h>  
            #include <DHT.h>  
            
            #define CHILD_ID_HUM 0
            #define CHILD_ID_TEMP 1
            #define HUMIDITY_SENSOR_DIGITAL_PIN 3
            unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 600000; // Sleep time between reads (in milliseconds)
            
            #define SKETCH_NAME "UtomhusHumSyd #15"                // Change to a fancy name you like
            #define SKETCH_VERSION "1.0"                    // Your version
            
            DHT dht;
            float lastTemp;
            float lastHum;
            boolean metric = true; 
            MyMessage msgHum(CHILD_ID_HUM, V_HUM);
            MyMessage msgTemp(CHILD_ID_TEMP, V_TEMP);
            
            //=========================
            // BATTERY VOLTAGE DIVIDER SETUP
            // 1M, 470K divider across battery and using internal ADC ref of 1.1V
            // Sense point is bypassed with 0.1 uF cap to reduce noise at that point
            // ((1e6+470e3)/470e3)*1.1 = Vmax = 3.44 Volts
            // 3.44/1023 = Volts per bit = 0.003363075
            #define VBAT_PER_BITS 0.003363075  
            #define VMIN 1.9                                  //  Vmin (radio Min Volt)=1.9V (564v)
            #define VMAX 3.0                                  //  Vmax = (2xAA bat)=3.0V (892v)
            int batteryPcnt = 0;                              // Calc value for battery %
            int batLoop = 0;                                  // Loop to help calc average
            int batArray[3];                                  // Array to store value for average calc.
            int BATTERY_SENSE_PIN = A0;                       // select the input pin for the battery sense point
            //=========================
            
            void setup()  
            { 
             analogReference(INTERNAL);             // For battery sensing
            
              delay(500); // Allow time for radio if power used as reset
              
              dht.setup(HUMIDITY_SENSOR_DIGITAL_PIN); 
            
              metric = getConfig().isMetric;
            }
            
            void presentation()  
            { 
              // Send the Sketch Version Information to the Gateway
             // Send the Sketch Version Information to the Gateway
              sendSketchInfo(SKETCH_NAME, SKETCH_VERSION);
            
              // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
              present(CHILD_ID_HUM, S_HUM);
              present(CHILD_ID_TEMP, S_TEMP);
            }
            
            void loop()      
            {  
              delay(500); // Allow time for radio if power used as reset
              delay(dht.getMinimumSamplingPeriod());
             
              // Fetch temperatures from DHT sensor
              float temperature = dht.getTemperature();
              if (isnan(temperature)) {
                  Serial.println("Failed reading temperature from DHT");
              } else if (temperature != lastTemp) {
                lastTemp = temperature;
                if (!metric) {
                  temperature = dht.toFahrenheit(temperature);
                }
                send(msgTemp.set(temperature, 1));
                Serial.print("T: ");
                Serial.println(temperature);
              }
              
              // Fetch humidity from DHT sensor
              float humidity = dht.getHumidity();
              if (isnan(humidity)) {
                  Serial.println("Failed reading humidity from DHT");
              } else if (humidity != lastHum) {
                  lastHum = humidity;
                  send(msgHum.set(humidity, 1));
                  Serial.print("H: ");
                  Serial.println(humidity);
              }
              batM();
              sleep(SLEEP_TIME); //sleep a bit
            }
            
            void batM() //The battery calculations
            {
               delay(500);
               // Battery monitoring reading
               int sensorValue = analogRead(BATTERY_SENSE_PIN);    
               delay(500);
               
               // Calculate the battery in %
               float Vbat  = sensorValue * VBAT_PER_BITS;
               int batteryPcnt = static_cast<int>(((Vbat-VMIN)/(VMAX-VMIN))*100.);
               Serial.print("Battery percent: "); Serial.print(batteryPcnt); Serial.println(" %");  
               
               // Add it to array so we get an average of 3 (3x20min)
               batArray[batLoop] = batteryPcnt;
              
               if (batLoop > 2) {  
                 batteryPcnt = (batArray[0] + batArray[1] + batArray[2] + batArray[3]);
                 batteryPcnt = batteryPcnt / 3;
             
               if (batteryPcnt > 100) {
                 batteryPcnt=100;
             }
             
                 Serial.print("Battery Average (Send): "); Serial.print(batteryPcnt); Serial.println(" %");
                   sendBatteryLevel(batteryPcnt);
                   batLoop = 0;
                  }
                 else 
                 {
                 batLoop++;
                 }
            }```

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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              #116

              Hi

              I also bought v8 of these boards. 2 sensors up an running perfect.

              2 others modules on the other hand, I think I fried the arduino. I am using 5v mini's. They worked when programming thru the USB port. Also communication with domoticz. They stopped working when I attached the 6v external adapter. I connected these to the ground and power connector. Now lights go on, but nothing anymore also not on the serial monitor.

              Should I have used the raw connector????

              thanks for helping

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              • sundberg84S Offline
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                sundberg84
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                wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                #117

                Short answer - yes you should have used RAW. But at least you learned a lesson if you want to think positive. ☺

                Try and see what happens if you change. Maybe they are still OK.

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                  pkriek
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                  #118

                  thanks!, lessons learned indeed. . Great stuff though.

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                  • scooter217S Offline
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                    #119

                    what size terminal blocks do you buy? I bought some and they are the wrong size.

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                    • scooter217S scooter217

                      what size terminal blocks do you buy? I bought some and they are the wrong size.

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                      Samuel235
                      Hardware Contributor
                      wrote on last edited by Samuel235
                      #120

                      @scooter217, from a quick inspection of the .brd file and a look around the internet for the datasheets it would seem that sundberg has allowed for any screw terminal block that uses a 5mm pin pitch. So you would need a 3 terminal 5mm pin pitch screw terminal. Please allow @sundberg84 some time to reply to ensure I am correct.

                      MySensors 2.1.1
                      Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
                      Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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                        #121

                        @scooter217 : http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=20pcs+KF301-2P+2+Pin+Plug-in+Screw+Terminal+Block+Connector+5.08mm+Pitch&_id=181759858196&&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2658

                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                        • sundberg84S sundberg84

                          @scooter217 : http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=20pcs+KF301-2P+2+Pin+Plug-in+Screw+Terminal+Block+Connector+5.08mm+Pitch&_id=181759858196&&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2658

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                          #122

                          @sundberg84 Thank you, just ordered some from ebay!

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                            #123

                            Hi Sundberg.
                            First of all thanks for what you have done here, and hi from New Zealand.
                            I have a problem though, sorry to be a hassle.
                            I assembled my first board tonight and I dont get 3.3v across the NRF. It starts at 0.07V then falls down to 0 on my cheap meter. Same on the MYSX1.4 connector at 3.3 and gnd. Am getting 3.3 on the mini as well as VCC and GND on the MYSX area so the regulator is working. May be a short? Or a bad solder? Although they look good to me.... If so what solder joints should I redo? Any other ideas?
                            Also, Ive traced back the VCC from the NRF and I cant see where it connects to a power source, either the battery in or the boost converter?
                            0_1461234488858_MS.jpg

                            Thanks,
                            Matt

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                              Hi Sundberg.
                              First of all thanks for what you have done here, and hi from New Zealand.
                              I have a problem though, sorry to be a hassle.
                              I assembled my first board tonight and I dont get 3.3v across the NRF. It starts at 0.07V then falls down to 0 on my cheap meter. Same on the MYSX1.4 connector at 3.3 and gnd. Am getting 3.3 on the mini as well as VCC and GND on the MYSX area so the regulator is working. May be a short? Or a bad solder? Although they look good to me.... If so what solder joints should I redo? Any other ideas?
                              Also, Ive traced back the VCC from the NRF and I cant see where it connects to a power source, either the battery in or the boost converter?
                              0_1461234488858_MS.jpg

                              Thanks,
                              Matt

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                              Hardware Contributor
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                              @Matt Hi Matt - tnx.

                              Try to measure here: whats your reading?
                              0_1461234892945_1.jpg
                              if its 3.3v its your radio thats has some error... this is prettu much the last point before radio. Also measure VCC/GND under the pcb and not on top, what does it say?

                              Sounds like a short or bad solder...

                              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                              RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                              • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                @Matt Hi Matt - tnx.

                                Try to measure here: whats your reading?
                                0_1461234892945_1.jpg
                                if its 3.3v its your radio thats has some error... this is prettu much the last point before radio. Also measure VCC/GND under the pcb and not on top, what does it say?

                                Sounds like a short or bad solder...

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                                @sundberg84
                                Ah crikey I think Im being thick, I just put a jumper across BAT connectors after tracing the lines and reading the manual, am now getting 2.8 at the NRF. Sorry for being a numpty. Still not picking up on my gateway, time to go to bed but will get the serial monitor running tomorrow....
                                Thanks for the quick reply.

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                                  Valle
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                                  Finally got my boards. In color: Yellow.
                                  If I would skip the Booster is the esiest thing to just wire Vi - Vo?

                                  0_1462250321694_IMG_4703.JPG

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                                    I have a question about using this board as a gateway. Pinout of Mini Pro and Nano are almost identical. I built an adapter board to plug in a Nano into this board. Pin by pin control shows it is OK. I checked connectivity with MYSController. The gateway boots up. When I turn on my battery powered sensor, it asks for ID, the gateway "supposedly" sends it. I watch this from the messages. The sensor does not register. It asks four more times, the gateway responds four times. But sensor could not be ID'd and of course registered.

                                    I am thinking either reception problem on sensor side, or transmission problem on gateway side? Could it be a power problem related with design of the board? Is there any way to identify?

                                    Thanks

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                                      @Valle - yes you can just put a wire between left and right pin - but it wont work for a long time (the pro mini will die when battery goes below 3v i think).

                                      @nunver - I have never used this board as gateway. What does your controller say, does it apply an ID for the request?

                                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                        @Valle - yes you can just put a wire between left and right pin - but it wont work for a long time (the pro mini will die when battery goes below 3v i think).

                                        @nunver - I have never used this board as gateway. What does your controller say, does it apply an ID for the request?

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                                        @sundberg84

                                        I'm using mfalkvidds Plant monitoring
                                        mfalkvidd said:

                                        An update on battery life: The sensor in my bonsai tree has been reporting every 11,5 minutes since 2015-11-07, so over the last ~four months it has done 24,504 measurements. The battery level has gone from 3.187V to 3.142V, which means a drop of 0.01125V per month. Assuming I let it go down to 2.34V (limit for 8MHz according to the datasheet) and that the voltage drop is linear, I should get (3.187-2.34)/0.01125 = 75 months = ~6 years. There are several error sources in this calculation, but it looks like battery life will be quite good, even though the sensor reports much more often than necessary.

                                        So I will try without Booster. But for other sensors I will use booster.

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                                        • ValleV Valle

                                          @sundberg84

                                          I'm using mfalkvidds Plant monitoring
                                          mfalkvidd said:

                                          An update on battery life: The sensor in my bonsai tree has been reporting every 11,5 minutes since 2015-11-07, so over the last ~four months it has done 24,504 measurements. The battery level has gone from 3.187V to 3.142V, which means a drop of 0.01125V per month. Assuming I let it go down to 2.34V (limit for 8MHz according to the datasheet) and that the voltage drop is linear, I should get (3.187-2.34)/0.01125 = 75 months = ~6 years. There are several error sources in this calculation, but it looks like battery life will be quite good, even though the sensor reports much more often than necessary.

                                          So I will try without Booster. But for other sensors I will use booster.

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                                          @Valle said:

                                          So I will try without Booster. But for other sensors I will use booster.

                                          Sounds good - let us know how it works out for you. 2,34V is for a genuine Arduino so you know - I dont think a clone manages that... also the last energy (from 1,9 to 2,34v) is not used even though the radio could handle it if you used a booster.

                                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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