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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors

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  • H hiddenuser

    Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

    I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

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    @hiddenuser I'm missing how can you use a booster to get 3.3v from a lipo battery

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      hey, has anyone maybe made a fritzing drawing/component of the board?
      I know, I'm lazy as f but.. since the board is that easy, documenting with it could be easy as well :)

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        @sundberg84 interesting question...or maybe stupid question not sure...

        i have a tonn of 3v pro mini's but im thinking of mains powering some for motion sensors.... would i set it up as battery, and then just use a voltage regulator on where the step up usually would be? or is there a better way to handle it?

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          there is a voltage regulator footprint on the pcb made for that

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            ahhh thats cool... so use regulated instead and it will pull down the voltage for antenna over that side
            ...and the board can handle the voltage anyway so it should be fine....

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            • gohanG gohan

              there is a voltage regulator footprint on the pcb made for that

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              #450

              @gohan The only voltage regulator that I know of on the board is mainly for the radio. Unless you are talking the one on the pro mini.

              @markjgabb If you want to do them from mains power, you might wan t to look at the HLK modules like these
              https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pcs-Power-Supply-Step-Down-Buck-Isolated-Hlk-Pm03-220V-To-3-3V-Module-New-Ic-N/332047987473?epid=571729397&hash=item4d4f9a3311:g:nyMAAOSw4GVYPa8q
              Otherwise an old phone charger should work.

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              • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                @gohan The only voltage regulator that I know of on the board is mainly for the radio. Unless you are talking the one on the pro mini.

                @markjgabb If you want to do them from mains power, you might wan t to look at the HLK modules like these
                https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pcs-Power-Supply-Step-Down-Buck-Isolated-Hlk-Pm03-220V-To-3-3V-Module-New-Ic-N/332047987473?epid=571729397&hash=item4d4f9a3311:g:nyMAAOSw4GVYPa8q
                Otherwise an old phone charger should work.

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                @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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                • gohanG gohan

                  @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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                  @gohan Have a bare board right in front of me. Ran continuity and no connection from regulator V-Out to VCC. VCC goes to the REG jumper and V-Out goes to the BAT jumper. VCC ties to the V-In on the regulator.

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                  • gohanG gohan

                    @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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                    @gohan ayou wouldn't want to run the pro mini and the radio both off of that small regulator anyway. Takes too much from the radio.

                    Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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                      @dbemowsk cheers for that...yeah i have a tonn of old 5v bricks lying around from old nokia chargers, so was just going to try use some of them up without having to buy anythiing else, as i have all of it on hand.... i have some LE33a's which should take care of any step down issues i think?

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                      • markjgabbM markjgabb

                        @dbemowsk cheers for that...yeah i have a tonn of old 5v bricks lying around from old nokia chargers, so was just going to try use some of them up without having to buy anythiing else, as i have all of it on hand.... i have some LE33a's which should take care of any step down issues i think?

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                        @markjgabb If you connect your 5V brick to the RAW pin, the onboard regulator on the pro mini will do.

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                          @dbemowsk cheers mate, thats awesome...now i can blitz out some room based designs

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                            @hiddenuser I'm missing how can you use a booster to get 3.3v from a lipo battery

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                            @gohan @sundberg84
                            This is my setup. my battery reading is a constant 2.75v, this is not true the multi meter says ~4v

                            0_1513062564871_IMG_20171212_180306_1.jpg

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                              @dbemowsk cheers mate, thats awesome...now i can blitz out some room based designs

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                              @markjgabb @dbemowsk @gohan - I dont have much else to add, thanks for the input here. Using mains power I would also use HLK-PM01 and input the 5v to the pro mini. If you only have 3.3v pro mini you need to input this to RAW. I have made a breakout board for the HLK module if needed as well.

                              https://www.openhardware.io/view/504/HLK-PM01-breakout-board

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                                @gohan @sundberg84
                                This is my setup. my battery reading is a constant 2.75v, this is not true the multi meter says ~4v

                                0_1513062564871_IMG_20171212_180306_1.jpg

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                                #459

                                Well it looks like your battery goes to some sort of regulator before the Easy board? If so my guess is that that board is providing 2.7 v regardless of battery voltage? Have a look at @gohan and his posts about solar power and different batteries. EasyPCB is designed for 2xAA and it will not work with other voltages out of the box. The voltage divider is also dimensioned for 3.3v max and will not work with higher voltages. Again @gohan has made some experiments with this. Check his posts out. If you re-dimension the voltage divider it will work with your higher voltage.

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                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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                                • H hiddenuser

                                  @gohan @sundberg84
                                  This is my setup. my battery reading is a constant 2.75v, this is not true the multi meter says ~4v

                                  0_1513062564871_IMG_20171212_180306_1.jpg

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                                  @hiddenuser I don't know why you have a booster in place (unless it is a buck boost) and you need to change the voltage divider resistors if you want to read higher voltages (look at my solar project). In addition I'd put in place a LDO regulator if you want to use a lipo battery since a normal voltage regulator would require a higher Vin than a lipo battery can provide.

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                                    @hiddenuser I don't know why you have a booster in place (unless it is a buck boost) and you need to change the voltage divider resistors if you want to read higher voltages (look at my solar project). In addition I'd put in place a LDO regulator if you want to use a lipo battery since a normal voltage regulator would require a higher Vin than a lipo battery can provide.

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                                    @gohan said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors:

                                    Thanks @gohan for the feedback. Can I have the link to your solar project!

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                                      @gohan said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors:

                                      Thanks @gohan for the feedback. Can I have the link to your solar project!

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                                      @hiddenuser look in the my project section (I'm on mobile now)

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                                        Hi Sundberg,

                                        I have read there could be some problem about radio connection if the temperature is ~0C or minus, I have met this issue so I will replace the existing 4.7µ capacitor with a bigger, e.g. ~20µ.
                                        The battery measurement contains a 0.1 uF capacitor, What do you think I do have to replace it with an another bigger one ?
                                        thanks

                                        Barna

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                                        • BarnaB Barna

                                          Hi Sundberg,

                                          I have read there could be some problem about radio connection if the temperature is ~0C or minus, I have met this issue so I will replace the existing 4.7µ capacitor with a bigger, e.g. ~20µ.
                                          The battery measurement contains a 0.1 uF capacitor, What do you think I do have to replace it with an another bigger one ?
                                          thanks

                                          Barna

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                                          @barna - i don't know to be honest. As I wrote I had issues last winter but never with that 0.1 cap. I'm running second winter now (have been as low as -8C so far) without issues.

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                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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