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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors

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  • sinczeS sincze

    Damn. Just missing the 0,1uF capacitor ..... to complete the 5v build. This will be my smallest build yet ;-) using PCB v9

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      IS it possible to use TP4056 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-Micro-USB-5V-1A-18650-TP4056-Lithium-Battery-Charger-Module-Charging-Board-With-Protection/32728720869.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.A0lkC7) this instead of using the step up booster?
      Thanks!!

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        If you want to use a lipo battery, you need a voltage regulator

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          IS it possible to use TP4056 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-Micro-USB-5V-1A-18650-TP4056-Lithium-Battery-Charger-Module-Charging-Board-With-Protection/32728720869.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.A0lkC7) this instead of using the step up booster?
          Thanks!!

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          sundberg84
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          @hiddenuser - well not out of the box as mentioned by gohan. Im not really sure what you want to do. Its not possible to use this instead of step-up booster since it outputs 5v and the step-up needs to output 3.3v. But with a voltage regulator in between maybe? As I said - don really understand so maybe you can explain some more about your project?

          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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          • sundberg84S sundberg84

            @hiddenuser - well not out of the box as mentioned by gohan. Im not really sure what you want to do. Its not possible to use this instead of step-up booster since it outputs 5v and the step-up needs to output 3.3v. But with a voltage regulator in between maybe? As I said - don really understand so maybe you can explain some more about your project?

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            @sundberg84 that tp4056 outputs just the lipo battery voltage

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              Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

              I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

              0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

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                Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

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                sundberg84
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                @hiddenuser - well, what would a battery measurer be if it reported a constant 3.3v boosted voltage? ;)
                It all depends on how everything is connected (pictures?) but if you have connected it as battery instryctions the radio and voltage divider that measured the incoming battery are not a part of the booster circuit. This to prevent noice to the radio and to be able to actually measure the battery voltage and not step-up voltage which is the idea behind the board.

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                  Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                  I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                  0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

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                  @hiddenuser I'm missing how can you use a booster to get 3.3v from a lipo battery

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                    hey, has anyone maybe made a fritzing drawing/component of the board?
                    I know, I'm lazy as f but.. since the board is that easy, documenting with it could be easy as well :)

                    C: OpenHAB2 with node-red on linux laptop
                    GW: Arduino Nano - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz mqtt
                    GW: Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz

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                      @sundberg84 interesting question...or maybe stupid question not sure...

                      i have a tonn of 3v pro mini's but im thinking of mains powering some for motion sensors.... would i set it up as battery, and then just use a voltage regulator on where the step up usually would be? or is there a better way to handle it?

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                        there is a voltage regulator footprint on the pcb made for that

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                          ahhh thats cool... so use regulated instead and it will pull down the voltage for antenna over that side
                          ...and the board can handle the voltage anyway so it should be fine....

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                            there is a voltage regulator footprint on the pcb made for that

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                            @gohan The only voltage regulator that I know of on the board is mainly for the radio. Unless you are talking the one on the pro mini.

                            @markjgabb If you want to do them from mains power, you might wan t to look at the HLK modules like these
                            https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pcs-Power-Supply-Step-Down-Buck-Isolated-Hlk-Pm03-220V-To-3-3V-Module-New-Ic-N/332047987473?epid=571729397&hash=item4d4f9a3311:g:nyMAAOSw4GVYPa8q
                            Otherwise an old phone charger should work.

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                              @gohan The only voltage regulator that I know of on the board is mainly for the radio. Unless you are talking the one on the pro mini.

                              @markjgabb If you want to do them from mains power, you might wan t to look at the HLK modules like these
                              https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pcs-Power-Supply-Step-Down-Buck-Isolated-Hlk-Pm03-220V-To-3-3V-Module-New-Ic-N/332047987473?epid=571729397&hash=item4d4f9a3311:g:nyMAAOSw4GVYPa8q
                              Otherwise an old phone charger should work.

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                              @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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                              • gohanG gohan

                                @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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                                @gohan Have a bare board right in front of me. Ran continuity and no connection from regulator V-Out to VCC. VCC goes to the REG jumper and V-Out goes to the BAT jumper. VCC ties to the V-In on the regulator.

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                                  @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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                                  @gohan ayou wouldn't want to run the pro mini and the radio both off of that small regulator anyway. Takes too much from the radio.

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                                    @dbemowsk cheers for that...yeah i have a tonn of old 5v bricks lying around from old nokia chargers, so was just going to try use some of them up without having to buy anythiing else, as i have all of it on hand.... i have some LE33a's which should take care of any step down issues i think?

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                                      @dbemowsk cheers for that...yeah i have a tonn of old 5v bricks lying around from old nokia chargers, so was just going to try use some of them up without having to buy anythiing else, as i have all of it on hand.... i have some LE33a's which should take care of any step down issues i think?

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                                      @markjgabb If you connect your 5V brick to the RAW pin, the onboard regulator on the pro mini will do.

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                                        @dbemowsk cheers mate, thats awesome...now i can blitz out some room based designs

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                                        • gohanG gohan

                                          @hiddenuser I'm missing how can you use a booster to get 3.3v from a lipo battery

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                                          @gohan @sundberg84
                                          This is my setup. my battery reading is a constant 2.75v, this is not true the multi meter says ~4v

                                          0_1513062564871_IMG_20171212_180306_1.jpg

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