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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors

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  • dbemowskD dbemowsk

    @gohan The only voltage regulator that I know of on the board is mainly for the radio. Unless you are talking the one on the pro mini.

    @markjgabb If you want to do them from mains power, you might wan t to look at the HLK modules like these
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pcs-Power-Supply-Step-Down-Buck-Isolated-Hlk-Pm03-220V-To-3-3V-Module-New-Ic-N/332047987473?epid=571729397&hash=item4d4f9a3311:g:nyMAAOSw4GVYPa8q
    Otherwise an old phone charger should work.

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    @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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    • gohanG gohan

      @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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      @gohan Have a bare board right in front of me. Ran continuity and no connection from regulator V-Out to VCC. VCC goes to the REG jumper and V-Out goes to the BAT jumper. VCC ties to the V-In on the regulator.

      Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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      • gohanG gohan

        @dbemowsk if I remember well the regulator Vout is also connected to the pro mini vcc

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        @gohan ayou wouldn't want to run the pro mini and the radio both off of that small regulator anyway. Takes too much from the radio.

        Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
        Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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          @dbemowsk cheers for that...yeah i have a tonn of old 5v bricks lying around from old nokia chargers, so was just going to try use some of them up without having to buy anythiing else, as i have all of it on hand.... i have some LE33a's which should take care of any step down issues i think?

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          • markjgabbM markjgabb

            @dbemowsk cheers for that...yeah i have a tonn of old 5v bricks lying around from old nokia chargers, so was just going to try use some of them up without having to buy anythiing else, as i have all of it on hand.... i have some LE33a's which should take care of any step down issues i think?

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            @markjgabb If you connect your 5V brick to the RAW pin, the onboard regulator on the pro mini will do.

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              @dbemowsk cheers mate, thats awesome...now i can blitz out some room based designs

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              • gohanG gohan

                @hiddenuser I'm missing how can you use a booster to get 3.3v from a lipo battery

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                @gohan @sundberg84
                This is my setup. my battery reading is a constant 2.75v, this is not true the multi meter says ~4v

                0_1513062564871_IMG_20171212_180306_1.jpg

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                • markjgabbM markjgabb

                  @dbemowsk cheers mate, thats awesome...now i can blitz out some room based designs

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                  sundberg84
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                  @markjgabb @dbemowsk @gohan - I dont have much else to add, thanks for the input here. Using mains power I would also use HLK-PM01 and input the 5v to the pro mini. If you only have 3.3v pro mini you need to input this to RAW. I have made a breakout board for the HLK module if needed as well.

                  https://www.openhardware.io/view/504/HLK-PM01-breakout-board

                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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                    @gohan @sundberg84
                    This is my setup. my battery reading is a constant 2.75v, this is not true the multi meter says ~4v

                    0_1513062564871_IMG_20171212_180306_1.jpg

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                    sundberg84
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                    #459

                    Well it looks like your battery goes to some sort of regulator before the Easy board? If so my guess is that that board is providing 2.7 v regardless of battery voltage? Have a look at @gohan and his posts about solar power and different batteries. EasyPCB is designed for 2xAA and it will not work with other voltages out of the box. The voltage divider is also dimensioned for 3.3v max and will not work with higher voltages. Again @gohan has made some experiments with this. Check his posts out. If you re-dimension the voltage divider it will work with your higher voltage.

                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                    • H hiddenuser

                      @gohan @sundberg84
                      This is my setup. my battery reading is a constant 2.75v, this is not true the multi meter says ~4v

                      0_1513062564871_IMG_20171212_180306_1.jpg

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                      @hiddenuser I don't know why you have a booster in place (unless it is a buck boost) and you need to change the voltage divider resistors if you want to read higher voltages (look at my solar project). In addition I'd put in place a LDO regulator if you want to use a lipo battery since a normal voltage regulator would require a higher Vin than a lipo battery can provide.

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                      • gohanG gohan

                        @hiddenuser I don't know why you have a booster in place (unless it is a buck boost) and you need to change the voltage divider resistors if you want to read higher voltages (look at my solar project). In addition I'd put in place a LDO regulator if you want to use a lipo battery since a normal voltage regulator would require a higher Vin than a lipo battery can provide.

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                        @gohan said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors:

                        Thanks @gohan for the feedback. Can I have the link to your solar project!

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                          @gohan said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors:

                          Thanks @gohan for the feedback. Can I have the link to your solar project!

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                          @hiddenuser look in the my project section (I'm on mobile now)

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                            Hi Sundberg,

                            I have read there could be some problem about radio connection if the temperature is ~0C or minus, I have met this issue so I will replace the existing 4.7µ capacitor with a bigger, e.g. ~20µ.
                            The battery measurement contains a 0.1 uF capacitor, What do you think I do have to replace it with an another bigger one ?
                            thanks

                            Barna

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                              Hi Sundberg,

                              I have read there could be some problem about radio connection if the temperature is ~0C or minus, I have met this issue so I will replace the existing 4.7µ capacitor with a bigger, e.g. ~20µ.
                              The battery measurement contains a 0.1 uF capacitor, What do you think I do have to replace it with an another bigger one ?
                              thanks

                              Barna

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                              @barna - i don't know to be honest. As I wrote I had issues last winter but never with that 0.1 cap. I'm running second winter now (have been as low as -8C so far) without issues.

                              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                              RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                              • BarnaB Barna

                                Hi Sundberg,

                                I have read there could be some problem about radio connection if the temperature is ~0C or minus, I have met this issue so I will replace the existing 4.7µ capacitor with a bigger, e.g. ~20µ.
                                The battery measurement contains a 0.1 uF capacitor, What do you think I do have to replace it with an another bigger one ?
                                thanks

                                Barna

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                                #465

                                @barna check out this thread:
                                https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/186/new-library-to-read-arduino-vcc-supply-level-without-resistors-for-battery-powered-sensor-nodes-that-do-not-use-a-voltage-regulator-but-connect-directly-to-the-batteries
                                It is a way to monitor battery voltage without the need for the 0.1 uf capacitor and resistor setup on the board.

                                Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                                Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                                • BarnaB Barna

                                  Hi Sundberg,

                                  I have read there could be some problem about radio connection if the temperature is ~0C or minus, I have met this issue so I will replace the existing 4.7µ capacitor with a bigger, e.g. ~20µ.
                                  The battery measurement contains a 0.1 uF capacitor, What do you think I do have to replace it with an another bigger one ?
                                  thanks

                                  Barna

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                                  Nca78
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #466

                                  @barna said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors:

                                  Hi Sundberg,

                                  I have read there could be some problem about radio connection if the temperature is ~0C or minus, I have met this issue so I will replace the existing 4.7µ capacitor with a bigger, e.g. ~20µ.
                                  The battery measurement contains a 0.1 uF capacitor, What do you think I do have to replace it with an another bigger one ?
                                  thanks

                                  Barna

                                  I don't think you need, it's made to stabilize the measured voltage, in the worst case the measured voltage will be a little bit unstable but your node will still run fine.

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                                    on the subject of batteries i have to say im really impressed with the setup of these boards....
                                    ive got a DHT and lux resistor measuring every 10 minutes, and i cant even remember how long ago i last changed the batteries...i think its about 3-4 months now....nothing special, just aldi batteries (australian cheap shopping chain)

                                    last check they are still 65%

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                                    • markjgabbM markjgabb

                                      on the subject of batteries i have to say im really impressed with the setup of these boards....
                                      ive got a DHT and lux resistor measuring every 10 minutes, and i cant even remember how long ago i last changed the batteries...i think its about 3-4 months now....nothing special, just aldi batteries (australian cheap shopping chain)

                                      last check they are still 65%

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                                      dbemowsk
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                                      #468

                                      @markjgabb Don't know if it's the same chain, but we have aldi stores here in the US.
                                      0_1513550068757_11f86073-b6bf-40a7-be80-0b6115b268af-image.png

                                      Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                                      Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                                      • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                                        @markjgabb Don't know if it's the same chain, but we have aldi stores here in the US.
                                        0_1513550068757_11f86073-b6bf-40a7-be80-0b6115b268af-image.png

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                                        @dbemowsk It is. It's a german chain though ;)

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                                          @dbemowsk It is. It's a german chain though ;)

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                                          @marvin78 Never knew that.

                                          Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                                          Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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