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  • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

    @alexsh1
    The question is: will the software restriction be solved? If not, I do not care if it is a software or a hardware restriction. :)

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    @FotoFieber This is a question for the MySensors dev team. Sensebender can handle both radios. Currently, there is a software restriction.

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    • FotoFieberF FotoFieber

      @tbowmo
      No, I don't have to hack the core. I use the serial API. From an architectural point of view, I don't see the need to change anything in MySensors. A serial controller can be built for under 20€ Including the radio. Why should I add complexity to support more than one radio support with one cpu in MySensors, if I can have the functipnality with the abstraction layer of the serial API? Please keep MySensors s simple as possible.

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      #98

      @FotoFieber No, you do have to hack the core if you want both radios to be handled properly, i.e. to handle message queues with corresponding radios. For example, sending a message is done via rfm69 only and not via nrf24l01+

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        The architecture we use would place this kind of situation to the controller to solve. One gw per network. So one gw for nrf and one for rfm.
        HW is cheap, and library should be kept simple.

        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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        • AnticimexA Anticimex

          The architecture we use would place this kind of situation to the controller to solve. One gw per network. So one gw for nrf and one for rfm.
          HW is cheap, and library should be kept simple.

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          FotoFieber
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          @Anticimex
          One gateway per radio, that is what I think is best. :+1:

          What I try to do, is to implement a controller with arduino due for up to three serial gateways. If there would be a solution for ethernet&rfm69 I may not have invested time in this. :laughing:

          0_1485703507553_DueMysMQTT_Steckplatine.png

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            @FotoFieber

            Well sensebender GW supports rfm69 with ethernet ;)

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            • tbowmoT tbowmo

              @FotoFieber

              Well sensebender GW supports rfm69 with ethernet ;)

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              FotoFieber
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              @tbowmo
              Yes, that is really nice. :+1:

              My other goal was to have a new MQTTClientGateway, as it existed with MySensors 1.1 (which is not only a gateway, but a controller too). It would have been really painful to add it to MySensors 2.1.x, as I would have to patch core files. It is much easier, to throw hardware at it. :laughing:

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              • tbowmoT tbowmo

                @FotoFieber

                Well sensebender GW supports rfm69 with ethernet ;)

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                #103

                @tbowmo More practical question. I have received the GW and it already has MySensors 2.1.0 software. Excellent service by Itead. Can you please help me how to map LEDs in the GW sketch? I can see that they are connected to pins 38, 41, 42, 39, 40 as LED1, LED2, LED3, LED4 and LED5. Thanks

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                • alexsh1A alexsh1

                  @tbowmo More practical question. I have received the GW and it already has MySensors 2.1.0 software. Excellent service by Itead. Can you please help me how to map LEDs in the GW sketch? I can see that they are connected to pins 38, 41, 42, 39, 40 as LED1, LED2, LED3, LED4 and LED5. Thanks

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                  #104

                  @alexsh1

                  you should be able to use LED_BLUE, LED_GREEN etc. defines (or even just LED_1, LED_2..) in your sketch, to access the different LED's on board the gateway. That is, if you are using the SenseBender GW hardware support files in arduino (installation instructions are here https://github.com/mysensors/ArduinoBoards)

                  Also, look at the board definition files, located here https://github.com/mysensors/ArduinoHwSAMD/blob/master/variants/mysensors_gw/variant.cpp
                  and here https://github.com/mysensors/ArduinoHwSAMD/blob/master/variants/mysensors_gw/variant.h

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                  • tbowmoT tbowmo

                    @alexsh1

                    you should be able to use LED_BLUE, LED_GREEN etc. defines (or even just LED_1, LED_2..) in your sketch, to access the different LED's on board the gateway. That is, if you are using the SenseBender GW hardware support files in arduino (installation instructions are here https://github.com/mysensors/ArduinoBoards)

                    Also, look at the board definition files, located here https://github.com/mysensors/ArduinoHwSAMD/blob/master/variants/mysensors_gw/variant.cpp
                    and here https://github.com/mysensors/ArduinoHwSAMD/blob/master/variants/mysensors_gw/variant.h

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                    #105

                    @tbowmo Excellent links, many thanks. BTW the board is working with the standard arduino samd, the problem I suppose comes with things LEDs.

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                      @alexsh1

                      You might be able to compile with the standard arduino zero BSP files. But the IO mapping is not the same at all.. I have swapped some pins to make routing a bit easier. Also the SPI channels are configured a bit differently than the standard arduino, if I remember right. So I will advise to use the mysensors gateway BSP files..

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                      • tbowmoT tbowmo

                        @alexsh1

                        You might be able to compile with the standard arduino zero BSP files. But the IO mapping is not the same at all.. I have swapped some pins to make routing a bit easier. Also the SPI channels are configured a bit differently than the standard arduino, if I remember right. So I will advise to use the mysensors gateway BSP files..

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                        #107

                        @tbowmo it is already done. Thanks to your link I have now Sensebender Gateway board added.
                        Waiting for an ethernet board now, it has stuck in the post

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                          @tbowmo : Did you try to use this board with platformio ?

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                            @Fabien

                            No, platformio is still on my bucketlist.. There is just not hours enough for everything :)

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                              @Fabien

                              No, platformio is still on my bucketlist.. There is just not hours enough for everything :)

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                              @tbowmo Ok I will install arduino IDE to upgrade it to 2.1.1
                              Please post here iwhen you have more information. I think I will try but I have no experience with this architecture.

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                                #111

                                Has anyone designed a case for the sensebender gateway ?

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                                • delivereathD delivereath

                                  Has anyone designed a case for the sensebender gateway ?

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                                  @delivereath

                                  I designed one in freecad for the GW and a nrf24l01 with lna/pa and external antenna.

                                  But I still have some fine tuning to do before releasing it, as the lid locking mechanism didn't turn out like expected.

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                                    #113

                                    Tea time..

                                    Here is my custom box for your RFM69 Sensebender GW ! Beautiful board though ;)

                                    No nail no screw :)

                                    0_1486052016552_Custom box for Sensebender GW.jpg

                                    0_1486052034817_Plate for Sensebender GW.jpg

                                    0_1486052057656_Bottom plate for Sensebender GW.jpg

                                    Last final minor check and i release the files, sure! (i've done one for nrf too in case..)

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                                    • scalzS scalz

                                      Tea time..

                                      Here is my custom box for your RFM69 Sensebender GW ! Beautiful board though ;)

                                      No nail no screw :)

                                      0_1486052016552_Custom box for Sensebender GW.jpg

                                      0_1486052034817_Plate for Sensebender GW.jpg

                                      0_1486052057656_Bottom plate for Sensebender GW.jpg

                                      Last final minor check and i release the files, sure! (i've done one for nrf too in case..)

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                                      @scalz beautiful box!!!
                                      Looking forward to print it too as soon as you publish it, but mine will be with nrf24l01+. Having been running both networks, I'm so much in favour of rfm69. It just works. No more caps to stabilise power or any other rf issues.

                                      I have decided to use Moteino Mega with a built-in antenna as rfm69 gateway though - it is very small and goes inside into an RPi box. And has got more memory than atmega328p

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                                        Tea time..

                                        Here is my custom box for your RFM69 Sensebender GW ! Beautiful board though ;)

                                        No nail no screw :)

                                        0_1486052016552_Custom box for Sensebender GW.jpg

                                        0_1486052034817_Plate for Sensebender GW.jpg

                                        0_1486052057656_Bottom plate for Sensebender GW.jpg

                                        Last final minor check and i release the files, sure! (i've done one for nrf too in case..)

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                                        Fabien
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                                        @scalz Yeah ! I will print this one.

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                                          #116

                                          Little gift.. :)

                                          Custom box for the NRF non PA version:

                                          0_1486135733912_20170203_161524.jpg

                                          0_1486135777240_20170203_161550.jpg
                                          A bit enlarged for NRF.

                                          0_1486135802750_20170203_162026.jpg

                                          And here the 3d preview for both versions with my little cheat for bicolor as i've still not added this feature to my printer
                                          0_1486135971628_assembly_rfm69_nrf_1.png
                                          You can see i've added a little slot near usb on the NRF version, it's for the leds indication in case box wouldn't be white (no need for white box, you can see it by transparency). I'll do the same for rfm69, and put variant stl with it or not.

                                          Next Nrf PA version, and that'll be fine ;)

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