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  • tbowmoT tbowmo

    Received a new prototype from dirtypcbs the other day

    0_1461067276748_gw1.jpg

    I have only come to the point where the SD Card reader is mounted, as I wanted to try the mechanics out :)

    0_1461067334506_gw3.jpg

    Currently I'm lacking time for finishing it within the next 2-3 weeks.. If someone knows how to slow down time around you, without being slowed down yourself, please tell me how to achieve it :) (Too many high priority tasks at the moment..)

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    gonzalonal
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    #22

    Great design @tbowmo. Very interesting indeed.
    I have some questions and suggestions if you don't mind.

    Will this support the use of the amplified version of the nrf24l01+ (NRF24L01* + PA + LNA). It uses a little more power than the non aplified version so It's even more sensirtive to power supply noise.

    EDIT: In the schematic, upper left corner, in the ATSHA204 module it seems you have forgotten to add the SDA pin conection.

    EDIT2: Haven't you thought in adding a battery charger module such as the TP4056. It would be nice to have this board woarking as its own UPS. Having the battery connected in the battery connector without something keeping the battery charged doesn't have much sense to me.

    Regards!

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      #23

      It should have enough juice in the regulator to support an pa/lna enabled nrf24l01. I havent got one myself, so it's not "validated" yet.

      The idea with the battery, is that it is only to keep the rtc alive in the atsam, and if you look at the schematics, then it's only the cpu that can be powered by battery. A coin cell battery should be enough. (I couldn't make room for a battery holder so that's why it just became a 2 pin header

      The atsha204 is validated on the board, so it's working ;) If you look at the schematic, SDA pin on the atsha204 is labeled "SECURITY", pin 20 on the cpu is also labeled SECURITY, so these are connected.

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        Thanks @tbowmo. Now it's all clear.
        What tests do you think are remaining in order to have the board fully tested and ready to production environement?
        Regards!

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          @gonzalonal

          The only thing missing is the Ethernet module at the moment, it has been working on an earlier board, but can't get it working right now.

          I'm almost at point where I will let our partner in China do their initial prototype spin, to evaluate production.

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          • tbowmoT tbowmo

            Received a new prototype from dirtypcbs the other day

            0_1461067276748_gw1.jpg

            I have only come to the point where the SD Card reader is mounted, as I wanted to try the mechanics out :)

            0_1461067334506_gw3.jpg

            Currently I'm lacking time for finishing it within the next 2-3 weeks.. If someone knows how to slow down time around you, without being slowed down yourself, please tell me how to achieve it :) (Too many high priority tasks at the moment..)

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            @tbowmo
            In the series 12 Monkeys a scientist developed injections to slow down time at the quantum level, which allows you to be impervious to time shift. Not sure if it slows down time perception itself though.

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              #27

              And ethernet is up!

              I think this calls for a couple of pictures of the "thing" :)

              first with ethernet / usb (power) connected.
              0_1465413470008_gw1.jpg

              and without ethernet shield
              0_1465413510581_gw2.jpg

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              • tbowmoT tbowmo

                And ethernet is up!

                I think this calls for a couple of pictures of the "thing" :)

                first with ethernet / usb (power) connected.
                0_1465413470008_gw1.jpg

                and without ethernet shield
                0_1465413510581_gw2.jpg

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                Hi @tbowmo. Congratulations.

                Have you identified what caused the trouble?
                Regards!

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                  @tbowmo Congrats! That piece of hardware looks cool. I am interested to replace my current gateway with such a puppy.

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                    @gonzalonal

                    It was a software issue.. I had rewritten the hardware definition files almost from scratch, and made a couple of errors that made it fail silently..

                    Peripheral configuration on SAMD21 is a bit more advanced, than on the old atmega328, as you can configure a specific peripheral (a sercom unit for example) to appear on different pins, depending on MUX setting.. I had made some wrong MUX settings for SERCOM4, which is used for the W5100 module.

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                      Great work @tbowmo - cant wait until I can get my hands on one :)

                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                      • sundberg84S sundberg84

                        Great work @tbowmo - cant wait until I can get my hands on one :)

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                        @sundberg84

                        If you come to the meetup in Malmö, you can see a working prototype :)

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                          @sundberg84

                          If you come to the meetup in Malmö, you can see a working prototype :)

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                          Hi @tbowmo .

                          Would you say that the board is ready for production environement? I am planing in ordering one for my home.

                          Will you share the sketches for the differente gateways configurations?
                          Thanks, regards.

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                            Hi @tbowmo: Nice project. I have a small question about the W5100 board. The board has a standard mail header connector. If I add a (standard) female header, I don't have enough height to compensate for the height of the RJ45 connector. How did you resolve that? Did you use a higher female header? I can't make it up from the pictures.

                            Thanks in advance,

                            Ralph

                            Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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                              I @gonzalonal

                              Sketches would be the standard sketches for different GW options, as distributed with the mysensors core (it's the same sketches for atmega328p based gateways)

                              @bisschopsr
                              Actually a really good question :) I haven't been able to find a header with extra height.. But what I did on my sample, is that the female header is not mounted flush to the PCB, rather it's raised as much as possible above the PCB, and then it is working.

                              I will have to talk with our manufacturing partner in China, and see what they have as options.

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                                Any idea when I'm able to order a couple of those? I'm organizing a MySensors master class for visitors of a Fast Data Event me company is holding in September. Would be great if I'd could show and promote this Gateway. I love it.

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                                  @TheoL

                                  Im talking with the manufacturer, and hopefully we can start a prototype evaluation very soon now. My guess is that we could start shipping within a couple of months from now, if we don't find any mistakes :)

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                                  • tbowmoT tbowmo

                                    @TheoL

                                    Im talking with the manufacturer, and hopefully we can start a prototype evaluation very soon now. My guess is that we could start shipping within a couple of months from now, if we don't find any mistakes :)

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                                    @tbowmo Great news. Also do we have any idea when MySensors 2.0 will be released?

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                                      We hope to release 2.0 on the MySensors meetup on Saturday.

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                                        We hope to release 2.0 on the MySensors meetup on Saturday.

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                                        @hek That would be really awe some. Then I can do a MySensors 2.0 master class. Great news. How are you doing my friend?

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                                          It's been a while since my latest update, but I am moving closer to production of this gateway.

                                          I have received the first production samples from Itead

                                          0_1472464163668_2016-08-28 16.33.11.jpg
                                          0_1472464174569_2016-08-28 16.33.23.jpg

                                          I have done hardware verification of the board. Everything seems to be ok, so we are very near the goal.

                                          I can't say anything about pricing yet, as Itead haven't given us a price yet. But I hope that we will be able to announce that very soon (tm)

                                          Finally a picture with all the connectors added as well
                                          0_1472464375430_2016-08-28 20.12.51.jpg

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