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  • Nca78N Nca78

    Yes I switched to SMD because the purpose of the board is to be very compact. With SMD everything is on one side and the board can be on the pro mini bottom without any gap.
    But the board stays easy to solder too as I have put a 1206 SMD size. If you can solder the SMD nrf24 you can solder a 1206 capacitor. If you can't, keep using the jmodule, but really it's not very difficult :)

    I'll detail the board in another thread, I think I've hijacked this one enough :D
    I'm making additional sensor boards in a hurry to send to dirty PCB and get them before lunar new year. When everything is sent I will upload to GitHub and post on openhardware.io. But it will need a few more weeks for me to receive and test the boards before before I advise you to order.

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    @Nca78 So, the capacitor is on the other side of the board, it just doesn't show in the photos. No problem with the SMD components, they are large enough if you are a bit careful.
    You are wasting precious time writing in the forums. Get back to work! :-)

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      Hey I have followed https://www.mysensors.org/build/battery and removed the onboard LED and 3.3 VDC regulator. I have powered using VCC pin. Do I need to external power the nrf module ?

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        Hey I have followed https://www.mysensors.org/build/battery and removed the onboard LED and 3.3 VDC regulator. I have powered using VCC pin. Do I need to external power the nrf module ?

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        @SubodhChettri Since you have removed the regulator, you should power the mini with 3.3V.
        This is provided either by the jmodule's LDO which is capable to power the NRF, or directly by the battery (2xAA).
        If you are using batteries, you dont need the LDO, so you bridge the Vin& Vout, and the 3.3V that feed the Mini go also to to the NRF.

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          Nca78
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          Panels with "NModule" and sensor shields finally arrived :D

          0_1487234753600_IMAG1393.jpg

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          • Nca78N Nca78

            Panels with "NModule" and sensor shields finally arrived :D

            0_1487234753600_IMAG1393.jpg

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            Cliff Karlsson
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            #66

            @Nca78 is it possible to buy them somewhere?

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            • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

              @Nca78 is it possible to buy them somewhere?

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              Nca78
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              #67

              @Cliff-Karlsson said in 💬 jModule:

              @Nca78 is it possible to buy them somewhere?

              I'm not sure it's a good idea to share the dirtypcb link yet:

              • they are not tested
              • I don't even have all the scripts ready
              • they need a bit of documentation to be usable

              I will do my best to test them and share on openhardware.io next week.

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                0_1488784810602_jb2_intro.jpg
                jBoard2 arrived............jModule2 is coming

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                  #69

                  Great, what are the improvements over the v1?

                  C: OpenHAB2 with node-red on linux laptop
                  GW: Arduino Nano - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz mqtt
                  GW: Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz

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                  • C cabat

                    @ted Hello! Can you share the Eagle file of your version of pcb? I mean this one: http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=19651&accesskey=2e5e31a83bf6fe21510c3bc438e12df7

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                    @cabat said in 💬 jModule:

                    @ted Hello! Can you share the Eagle file of your version of pcb? I mean this one: http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=19651&accesskey=2e5e31a83bf6fe21510c3bc438e12df7

                    Sorry for the extreme late response. I've busy with work in the past half year. Hope you still find the attached file useful.

                    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13998152/modified_jBoard-panalize_4x4_hole.brd

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                      @cabat said in 💬 jModule:

                      @ted Hello! Can you share the Eagle file of your version of pcb? I mean this one: http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=19651&accesskey=2e5e31a83bf6fe21510c3bc438e12df7

                      Sorry for the extreme late response. I've busy with work in the past half year. Hope you still find the attached file useful.

                      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13998152/modified_jBoard-panalize_4x4_hole.brd

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                      @ted Big thanks!

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                      • D dakipro

                        Great, what are the improvements over the v1?

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                        julisses
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                        #72

                        @dakipro
                        The improvements:

                        • 2 build options
                        • no SMD elements (AMS1117 replaced by LE33 - TO92 package)
                        • smaller size: the jModule and the jBoard
                        • output pins in a one row
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                        • Nca78N Nca78

                          @Cliff-Karlsson said in 💬 jModule:

                          @Nca78 is it possible to buy them somewhere?

                          I'm not sure it's a good idea to share the dirtypcb link yet:

                          • they are not tested
                          • I don't even have all the scripts ready
                          • they need a bit of documentation to be usable

                          I will do my best to test them and share on openhardware.io next week.

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                          Cliff Karlsson
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                          @Nca78 Sorry for the nagging, but are you any closer to releasing it to dirtypcbs or similar?

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                          • julissesJ julisses

                            @dakipro
                            The improvements:

                            • 2 build options
                            • no SMD elements (AMS1117 replaced by LE33 - TO92 package)
                            • smaller size: the jModule and the jBoard
                            • output pins in a one row
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                            #74

                            @julisses

                            Switching to TO92 elements is a great idea and will make soldering much easier to do. However, LE33 still has 0.5 mA supply current and will not be a good choice for battery powered sensors. The TO92 package will always be ON per spec sheet: http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/datasheet/98/09/12/54/6e/d1/45/36/CD00000545.pdf/files/CD00000545.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00000545.pdf

                            The modification I made previously used XC6206 regulator that only requires 1uA supply current. It works pretty well for my battery powered sensors. However, it does not offer a TO92 package. It will be great if someone can suggest an ultra-low supply current voltage regulator in TO92 package.

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                              @julisses

                              Switching to TO92 elements is a great idea and will make soldering much easier to do. However, LE33 still has 0.5 mA supply current and will not be a good choice for battery powered sensors. The TO92 package will always be ON per spec sheet: http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/datasheet/98/09/12/54/6e/d1/45/36/CD00000545.pdf/files/CD00000545.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00000545.pdf

                              The modification I made previously used XC6206 regulator that only requires 1uA supply current. It works pretty well for my battery powered sensors. However, it does not offer a TO92 package. It will be great if someone can suggest an ultra-low supply current voltage regulator in TO92 package.

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                              AWI
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                              #75

                              @ted The lm-2936z could do the job (15 uA Q, 200mV drop-out ) or the mcp-1702 (2 uA Q, 525 mV drop-out). Both are significantly lower priced than the LE33 (at least where I get them ;-) )

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                              • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                                @Nca78 Sorry for the nagging, but are you any closer to releasing it to dirtypcbs or similar?

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                                Nca78
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by Nca78
                                #76

                                @Cliff-Karlsson said in 💬 jModule:

                                @Nca78 Sorry for the nagging, but are you any closer to releasing it to dirtypcbs or similar?

                                Yes but had some visitors during 3 weeks so progress was slow, I'll restart in 2 days and post something soon.

                                @ted said in 💬 jModule:

                                It will be great if someone can suggest an ultra-low supply current voltage regulator in TO92 package.

                                I would suggest MCP 1700 instead of 1702 as suggested by @AWI
                                It has similar max current (250mA), ultra low quiescent current too (1.6uF) but the drop-out is way lower: below 0.2V which makes it much better for battery use especially if using 2*AA/AAA batteries. The limitation is the maximum input voltage (6V) but on battery it should not be a problem.

                                But be careful MCP 1700 (like 1702) needs two 1uF capacitors at input and output, so it's not a drop-in replacement for LE33.

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                                  julisses
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                                  jModule2 is ready :)

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                                  • Nca78N Nca78

                                    @Cliff-Karlsson said in 💬 jModule:

                                    @Nca78 Sorry for the nagging, but are you any closer to releasing it to dirtypcbs or similar?

                                    Yes but had some visitors during 3 weeks so progress was slow, I'll restart in 2 days and post something soon.

                                    @ted said in 💬 jModule:

                                    It will be great if someone can suggest an ultra-low supply current voltage regulator in TO92 package.

                                    I would suggest MCP 1700 instead of 1702 as suggested by @AWI
                                    It has similar max current (250mA), ultra low quiescent current too (1.6uF) but the drop-out is way lower: below 0.2V which makes it much better for battery use especially if using 2*AA/AAA batteries. The limitation is the maximum input voltage (6V) but on battery it should not be a problem.

                                    But be careful MCP 1700 (like 1702) needs two 1uF capacitors at input and output, so it's not a drop-in replacement for LE33.

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                                    Cliff Karlsson
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                                    #78

                                    @Nca78
                                    Any progress with the n-module?

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                                    • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                                      @Nca78
                                      Any progress with the n-module?

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                                      Nca78
                                      Hardware Contributor
                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      @Cliff-Karlsson said in 💬 jModule:

                                      @Nca78
                                      Any progress with the n-module?

                                      Sort of :) Made a temperature/humidity/light sensor and a door sensor.
                                      Both are very similar in size to assembled jModule, but include the sensors and CR2032 batteries. Still have to test the accelerometer child board and make scripts for it and I will put the openhardware.io page online.
                                      0_1491413525806_IMAG1606.jpg

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                                        Nice!

                                        One question: do you have a mechanism to swap pins on the breakout boards? I know not all manufacturers use the same pinout for their I2C boards. Unfortunately...

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                                          Nice!

                                          One question: do you have a mechanism to swap pins on the breakout boards? I know not all manufacturers use the same pinout for their I2C boards. Unfortunately...

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                                          Nca78
                                          Hardware Contributor
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                                          @DavidZH as you can see on the door sensor I made two connectors for "through hole" I2C that will fit most if not all of the sensors I know: si7021, OPT3001, MAX44009, BMP/BME 180/280, ...
                                          Else you can always solder the matching pins and connect the others using a small wire from breakout board to the right hole in the next connectors row. For SMD si7021 (blue on the picture) I only know of 1 layout.

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