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  • julissesJ Offline
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    julisses
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    0_1488784810602_jb2_intro.jpg
    jBoard2 arrived............jModule2 is coming

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      dakipro
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      Great, what are the improvements over the v1?

      C: OpenHAB2 with node-red on linux laptop
      GW: Arduino Nano - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz mqtt
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        @ted Hello! Can you share the Eagle file of your version of pcb? I mean this one: http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=19651&accesskey=2e5e31a83bf6fe21510c3bc438e12df7

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        @cabat said in 💬 jModule:

        @ted Hello! Can you share the Eagle file of your version of pcb? I mean this one: http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=19651&accesskey=2e5e31a83bf6fe21510c3bc438e12df7

        Sorry for the extreme late response. I've busy with work in the past half year. Hope you still find the attached file useful.

        https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13998152/modified_jBoard-panalize_4x4_hole.brd

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          @cabat said in 💬 jModule:

          @ted Hello! Can you share the Eagle file of your version of pcb? I mean this one: http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=19651&accesskey=2e5e31a83bf6fe21510c3bc438e12df7

          Sorry for the extreme late response. I've busy with work in the past half year. Hope you still find the attached file useful.

          https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13998152/modified_jBoard-panalize_4x4_hole.brd

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          @ted Big thanks!

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            Great, what are the improvements over the v1?

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            @dakipro
            The improvements:

            • 2 build options
            • no SMD elements (AMS1117 replaced by LE33 - TO92 package)
            • smaller size: the jModule and the jBoard
            • output pins in a one row
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            • Nca78N Nca78

              @Cliff-Karlsson said in 💬 jModule:

              @Nca78 is it possible to buy them somewhere?

              I'm not sure it's a good idea to share the dirtypcb link yet:

              • they are not tested
              • I don't even have all the scripts ready
              • they need a bit of documentation to be usable

              I will do my best to test them and share on openhardware.io next week.

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              @Nca78 Sorry for the nagging, but are you any closer to releasing it to dirtypcbs or similar?

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              • julissesJ julisses

                @dakipro
                The improvements:

                • 2 build options
                • no SMD elements (AMS1117 replaced by LE33 - TO92 package)
                • smaller size: the jModule and the jBoard
                • output pins in a one row
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                #74

                @julisses

                Switching to TO92 elements is a great idea and will make soldering much easier to do. However, LE33 still has 0.5 mA supply current and will not be a good choice for battery powered sensors. The TO92 package will always be ON per spec sheet: http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/datasheet/98/09/12/54/6e/d1/45/36/CD00000545.pdf/files/CD00000545.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00000545.pdf

                The modification I made previously used XC6206 regulator that only requires 1uA supply current. It works pretty well for my battery powered sensors. However, it does not offer a TO92 package. It will be great if someone can suggest an ultra-low supply current voltage regulator in TO92 package.

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                  @julisses

                  Switching to TO92 elements is a great idea and will make soldering much easier to do. However, LE33 still has 0.5 mA supply current and will not be a good choice for battery powered sensors. The TO92 package will always be ON per spec sheet: http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/datasheet/98/09/12/54/6e/d1/45/36/CD00000545.pdf/files/CD00000545.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00000545.pdf

                  The modification I made previously used XC6206 regulator that only requires 1uA supply current. It works pretty well for my battery powered sensors. However, it does not offer a TO92 package. It will be great if someone can suggest an ultra-low supply current voltage regulator in TO92 package.

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                  AWI
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                  @ted The lm-2936z could do the job (15 uA Q, 200mV drop-out ) or the mcp-1702 (2 uA Q, 525 mV drop-out). Both are significantly lower priced than the LE33 (at least where I get them ;-) )

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                  • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                    @Nca78 Sorry for the nagging, but are you any closer to releasing it to dirtypcbs or similar?

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                    Nca78
                    Hardware Contributor
                    wrote on last edited by Nca78
                    #76

                    @Cliff-Karlsson said in 💬 jModule:

                    @Nca78 Sorry for the nagging, but are you any closer to releasing it to dirtypcbs or similar?

                    Yes but had some visitors during 3 weeks so progress was slow, I'll restart in 2 days and post something soon.

                    @ted said in 💬 jModule:

                    It will be great if someone can suggest an ultra-low supply current voltage regulator in TO92 package.

                    I would suggest MCP 1700 instead of 1702 as suggested by @AWI
                    It has similar max current (250mA), ultra low quiescent current too (1.6uF) but the drop-out is way lower: below 0.2V which makes it much better for battery use especially if using 2*AA/AAA batteries. The limitation is the maximum input voltage (6V) but on battery it should not be a problem.

                    But be careful MCP 1700 (like 1702) needs two 1uF capacitors at input and output, so it's not a drop-in replacement for LE33.

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                      jModule2 is ready :)

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                      • Nca78N Nca78

                        @Cliff-Karlsson said in 💬 jModule:

                        @Nca78 Sorry for the nagging, but are you any closer to releasing it to dirtypcbs or similar?

                        Yes but had some visitors during 3 weeks so progress was slow, I'll restart in 2 days and post something soon.

                        @ted said in 💬 jModule:

                        It will be great if someone can suggest an ultra-low supply current voltage regulator in TO92 package.

                        I would suggest MCP 1700 instead of 1702 as suggested by @AWI
                        It has similar max current (250mA), ultra low quiescent current too (1.6uF) but the drop-out is way lower: below 0.2V which makes it much better for battery use especially if using 2*AA/AAA batteries. The limitation is the maximum input voltage (6V) but on battery it should not be a problem.

                        But be careful MCP 1700 (like 1702) needs two 1uF capacitors at input and output, so it's not a drop-in replacement for LE33.

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                        @Nca78
                        Any progress with the n-module?

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                        • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                          @Nca78
                          Any progress with the n-module?

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                          @Cliff-Karlsson said in 💬 jModule:

                          @Nca78
                          Any progress with the n-module?

                          Sort of :) Made a temperature/humidity/light sensor and a door sensor.
                          Both are very similar in size to assembled jModule, but include the sensors and CR2032 batteries. Still have to test the accelerometer child board and make scripts for it and I will put the openhardware.io page online.
                          0_1491413525806_IMAG1606.jpg

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                            Nice!

                            One question: do you have a mechanism to swap pins on the breakout boards? I know not all manufacturers use the same pinout for their I2C boards. Unfortunately...

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                              Nice!

                              One question: do you have a mechanism to swap pins on the breakout boards? I know not all manufacturers use the same pinout for their I2C boards. Unfortunately...

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                              Nca78
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                              @DavidZH as you can see on the door sensor I made two connectors for "through hole" I2C that will fit most if not all of the sensors I know: si7021, OPT3001, MAX44009, BMP/BME 180/280, ...
                              Else you can always solder the matching pins and connect the others using a small wire from breakout board to the right hole in the next connectors row. For SMD si7021 (blue on the picture) I only know of 1 layout.

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                                Clear! I will take a deeper look into your board.

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                                • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                                  @Nca78
                                  Any progress with the n-module?

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                                  Nca78
                                  Hardware Contributor
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                                  @Cliff-Karlsson said in 💬 jModule:

                                  @Nca78
                                  Any progress with the n-module?

                                  It's finally published for the main board, sensor shields will come soon.
                                  https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6876/nmodule

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                                  • DwaltD Dwalt

                                    Ahh, I see now. The side facing pins are mapped as follows:

                                    0_1457124334179_JMOD PINOUT.jpg

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                                    @Dwalt Thank you very much, now I understand better why the measurement of the voltage on input A0 was never good ..

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