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Vera3 UI5 MySensors Plugin not working after migration to 1.4

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  • S samppa

    @hek
    Why it is needed for 1.4 as earlier everything worked well in 1.3 without it?
    I do not have any readily available and I was hoping to get back up again without waiting for the delivery.

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    @samppa

    This version transmits bursts of messages which probably requires more power for a short period.
    Try lowering transmit power in MyConfig.h while waiting for the capacitors.

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      @samppa

      This version transmits bursts of messages which probably requires more power for a short period.
      Try lowering transmit power in MyConfig.h while waiting for the capacitors.

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      @hek
      You mean
      #define RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_LOW
      ?

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        @samppa

        Try adding capacitor as suggested. The latest discussions on the forum recommends a larger one than the one we link on buying guide (I will update the links soon).

        Here are some assorted electrolytic with different capacitance.

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        @hek said:

        @samppa

        Try adding capacitor as suggested. The latest discussions on the forum recommends a larger one than the one we link on buying guide (I will update the links soon).

        Which capacitor is suggested now?

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          @samppa
          Yes

          @Homer
          Read this thread: http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/171/efficiency-of-voltage-boosters

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          • S samppa

            @hek
            You mean
            #define RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_LOW
            ?

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            samppa
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            @samppa said:
            #define RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_LOW

            Did not help.. ;-(
            Perhaps I have to wait for the capacitors..
            Somehow the first message (with version) seems to go through more often than the rest..

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            • S samppa

              @samppa said:
              #define RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_LOW

              Did not help.. ;-(
              Perhaps I have to wait for the capacitors..
              Somehow the first message (with version) seems to go through more often than the rest..

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              @samppa

              Don't you have some old electronics you could butcher and desolder a couple of capacitors from? Or a nearby shop? Waiting 2 weeks for the Chinese/Finnish post isn't that fun.

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                @samppa

                Don't you have some old electronics you could butcher and desolder a couple of capacitors from? Or a nearby shop? Waiting 2 weeks for the Chinese/Finnish post isn't that fun.

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                @hek
                Yes I could do that. What size? Anything goes, right? Thee discussion in the post you liked was rather long without definitive conclusion.. :-)

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                • S samppa

                  @hek
                  Yes I could do that. What size? Anything goes, right? Thee discussion in the post you liked was rather long without definitive conclusion.. :-)

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                  @samppa
                  Just to confirm; the capacitor should be put to sensor node or serial gateway? Or both and all nodes?
                  And in parallel with the radio on the power lines?

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                  • S samppa

                    @samppa
                    Just to confirm; the capacitor should be put to sensor node or serial gateway? Or both and all nodes?
                    And in parallel with the radio on the power lines?

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                    @samppa

                    I use it on all nodes. Mount it as close as possible to the radio between VCC/GND.

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                    • hekH hek

                      @samppa

                      I use it on all nodes. Mount it as close as possible to the radio between VCC/GND.

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                      @hek
                      Ok that made the radio to work.
                      But still the reported values are not shown in UI5.
                      Somehow the Humidity sensor has CurrentTemperature variable, so it seems something is mixed up..
                      I have one DHT22 and one Dallas temperature sensor in one node. The devices are found during inclusion and added, but no data is shown. The only thing shown is the last update time that seems to be correct..

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                      • hekH hek

                        @samppa

                        I use it on all nodes. Mount it as close as possible to the radio between VCC/GND.

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                        @hek
                        Here is how it looks on Sensor:
                        sensor started, id 1
                        send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                        send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,st=ok:0
                        read: 0-0-1 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=2:M
                        send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=0,st=ok:
                        send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                        send: 1-1-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                        send: 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                        send: 1-1-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                        send: 1-1-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,st=ok:77.9
                        send: 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,st=ok:43.1
                        send: 1-1-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,st=ok:78.1
                        send: 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,st=ok:43.0
                        send: 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,st=ok:42.7

                        So the transmission seems to be ok..

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                        • S samppa

                          @hek
                          Here is how it looks on Sensor:
                          sensor started, id 1
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,st=ok:0
                          read: 0-0-1 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=2:M
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=0,st=ok:
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,st=ok:77.9
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,st=ok:43.1
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,st=ok:78.1
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,st=ok:43.0
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,st=ok:42.7

                          So the transmission seems to be ok..

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                          samppa
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                          The mixup with temp and humidity was my typo in code. It would be great if the gateway or sensor would warn if a wrong type of value is sent compared to the presented sensor type.

                          @samppa said:

                          Here is how it looks on Sensor:
                          sensor started, id 1
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,st=ok:0
                          read: 0-0-1 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=2:M
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=0,st=ok:
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=3,st=ok:1.4
                          send: 1-1-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,st=ok:77.9

                          That temeprature is in Farenheit. Somehow the GW responds false when calling:

                              metric = gw.getConfig().isMetric;
                          

                          Now everything else except the metric works with this node..

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                            wrote on last edited by
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                            It would be great if the gateway or sensor would warn if a wrong type of value is sent compared to the presented sensor type.

                            It has no knowledge of this today. We're having discussions about the future elsewhere on this forum.

                            @samppa said:

                            Now everything else except the metric works with this node..

                            Did you see this update?

                            http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/326/mysensors-1-4-released/34

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                            • hekH hek

                              It would be great if the gateway or sensor would warn if a wrong type of value is sent compared to the presented sensor type.

                              It has no knowledge of this today. We're having discussions about the future elsewhere on this forum.

                              @samppa said:

                              Now everything else except the metric works with this node..

                              Did you see this update?

                              http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/326/mysensors-1-4-released/34

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                              samppa
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                              btw: thanks for the great help and outstanding forum!

                              @hek said:

                              Did you see this update?

                              http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/326/mysensors-1-4-released/34

                              It had no reference to isMetric is it broken or am I misusing it somehow?
                              In the migration guide it said:
                              metric = gw.isMetricSystem();
                              change to
                              metric = gw.getConfig().isMetric;
                              But I get false even though the seting is metric (and not Imperial) in Vera Plugin 1.4. Weird..

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                                There was another problem lurking in the code related to controller-configuration that was fixed a few hours ago. Did you get this change when you updated?

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                                • hekH hek

                                  There was another problem lurking in the code related to controller-configuration that was fixed a few hours ago. Did you get this change when you updated?

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                                  samppa
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                                  @hek

                                  I think the 1.4 version I downloaded and updated was a bit older. So perhaps I need to update again.. grr.

                                  What would be the easiest update mechanism? Is the OTA update working already?

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                                  • S samppa

                                    @hek

                                    I think the 1.4 version I downloaded and updated was a bit older. So perhaps I need to update again.. grr.

                                    What would be the easiest update mechanism? Is the OTA update working already?

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                                    hek
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                                    @samppa

                                    You only update the sketch which has problems with Metric setting.

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                                      samppa
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                                      Ok now all seems to work, but the UI does not get updated well. For relays the lamp does not always get lit and the button on/off is not highlighted properly. Pushing the button works, but with delay and the lamp graphic sometimes does not follow properly.. Odd behavior that was not there in 1.3, I think, and the feeling of reliability suffers a lot.

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                                        For what it's worth, a lot of what you've been complaining about can be caused by poor power to either the gateway or the sensor.

                                        Take it from me. I had this issue a few weeks ago and had a skull that was too thick to admit it until I was frustrated and tried another power source.

                                        Then, just last night, I was up until 1:30AM fighting "strange issues" and again it turned out to be power related. (And again, I ignored the possibility for hours! Ugh!)

                                        Good luck, Samppa.

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                                        • T tbully

                                          For what it's worth, a lot of what you've been complaining about can be caused by poor power to either the gateway or the sensor.

                                          Take it from me. I had this issue a few weeks ago and had a skull that was too thick to admit it until I was frustrated and tried another power source.

                                          Then, just last night, I was up until 1:30AM fighting "strange issues" and again it turned out to be power related. (And again, I ignored the possibility for hours! Ugh!)

                                          Good luck, Samppa.

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                                          @tbully
                                          Yes, the capacitors helped a lot. The power source culprit is weird since I use many different USB sources (PC USB being one) and with 1.3 I had absolutely no trouble at all. So to my mind the 1.4 is inferior design since it requires additional soldering of capacitors and the increases complexity. It was so easy plug n play before.

                                          I wonder if anyone has got the 1.4 working without the capacitors..

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