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  • D Offline
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    danta
    wrote on last edited by danta
    #20

    @drock1985, Didn't test it yet. I was playing with the other module I bought. Too bad that the other module only seems to work stable from 6V and up (I should have known it, as it was listed on ebay as 7-12v). I was just hoping that it would work at lower voltages. So I will probably stick with the first module for now.

    @vil1driver, Yes, detection works through wall and door. I only tested it at a distance of about 5 meter with a brick indoor wall between me and the sensor. I also had to walk around before the sensor picked me up (just lifting my arm wasn't enough).

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      korttoma
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      #21

      Seems like these modules are using the BISS0001 so it will probably not be possible to run them on a battery node because the BISS has a 3V minimum voltage demand. The current consumption is anyhow also a bit to high for battery application (3mA).

      0_1465813900381_WP_20160613_13_16_48_Pro.jpg

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      • korttomaK korttoma

        Seems like these modules are using the BISS0001 so it will probably not be possible to run them on a battery node because the BISS has a 3V minimum voltage demand. The current consumption is anyhow also a bit to high for battery application (3mA).

        0_1465813900381_WP_20160613_13_16_48_Pro.jpg

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        Luke Corkill
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        #22

        I've bought a couple of these and in many ways have been impressed.
        My only issue is that I find them far too sensitive (e.g. Detecting movement through wallls)
        Has anyone managed to reduce the sensitivity?

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          bjacobse
          wrote on last edited by
          #23

          @Luke-Corkill said:

          I've bought a couple of these and in many ways have been impressed.
          My only issue is that I find them far too sensitive (e.g. Detecting movement through wallls)
          Has anyone managed to reduce the sensitivity?

          To reduce sensitivity workaround - Can you place them high and point them in an angle pointing downwards to ground? will this work?

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            gregl
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            #24

            There has been some chat about these modules over on Pete Scargill's site.
            Seems that using some aluminium foil you can create a shield so there are at least directional.

            Here is the thread ( starting at the relevant comment)

            http://tech.scargill.net/microwave-radar/#comment-16685

            I have not tested this myself yet...

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            • greglG gregl

              There has been some chat about these modules over on Pete Scargill's site.
              Seems that using some aluminium foil you can create a shield so there are at least directional.

              Here is the thread ( starting at the relevant comment)

              http://tech.scargill.net/microwave-radar/#comment-16685

              I have not tested this myself yet...

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              bjacobse
              wrote on last edited by bjacobse
              #25

              @gregl
              Thanks for good link :-)
              Yes offcurse I'm so sloooooow we need a proper waveguide or a hornet antenna, so ensure correct directionality ;-)

              This might not be needed, but a hint what could be done: http://hforsten.com/horn-antenna-for-radar.html

              When my doppler radar arrives I will make a trial with a small tinbox I don't know about using alufoil is good for a long periode used outside
              http://hackaday.com/2014/02/24/guest-post-try-radar-for-your-next-project/#jp-carousel-115578

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              • YveauxY Yveaux

                @scalz e.g. at http://s.aliexpress.com/AbEBreya

                0_1459859566297_Microwave-Radar-Module-Body-Sensing-Radar-Switch-DC-5V-10M-Home-Control-.jpg_640x640.jpg

                0_1459859704122_Microwave-Radar-Module-Body-Sensing-Radar-Switch-DC-5V-10M-Home-Control-.jpg_640x640 (1).jpg

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                cimba007
                wrote on last edited by cimba007
                #26

                @Yveaux I did some extensive testing on the FC1816 module and I thought I might drop my experience:

                http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/226031/pinout-of-microwave-motion-sensor-fc1816

                In the end I used an 150ohm Series resistor + ~100µF cap behind this to power the FC1816. This eliminated much of the leftover noise. If this is not enough I presented a way to lower the module amplification. In the end I deactivated the biss-trigger output alltogether and grabbed the raw signal. Doing some manual processing:

                1. take 100 reads
                2. get the stddev (statistics library)
                3. high stddev = high fluctuation in values = movement

                Take a look at my current working copy of my code for the FC1816:

                Some notes:

                I power the VCC of the FC1816 from some arduino pins. Thus I can deactivate the microwave sensor at will. This is still not recommended. If you visit the previous link you can see that the BISS has some kind of "warmup"-Period.

                I use 3,3Volt to power the NRF24, the arduino and the FC1816 and suffered no strange consequences so far.

                Get get some insight about the link quality of the NRF24 I made the function RF24_getObserverTX() accessible from user-space:

                MySensors\drivers\RF24\RF24.cpp

                uint8_t RF24_getObserveTX(void)
                {
                	return RF24_readByteRegister(OBSERVE_TX);
                }
                

                MySensors\drivers\RF24\RF24.h

                uint8_t RF24_getObserveTX(void);
                

                The Idea behind the OBSERVE_TX register is that the lower byte presents the number of retrys the NRF24 used in the last send.
                The upper 4 bits present the number of total failed packets. I suggest using (0x0F & RF24_getObserveTX()) to get a usable number 0-15 presenting the retry-count. Anything > 0 suggests a packetloss on your link. 15 most likely will mean you ran into an complete fail as the max number of retrys was exhausted.

                This number might be capped by

                // ARD, auto retry count
                #define RF24_ARC 15
                

                from the RF24.h driver-file.

                TO not run into compiling errors you might need:

                http://arduiniana.org/libraries/streaming/
                https://github.com/RobTillaart/Arduino/tree/master/libraries/Statistic

                MicrowaveRadarSensor.ino

                #include <Streaming.h>
                #include "Statistic.h"
                
                
                /**
                 * The MySensors Arduino library handles the wireless radio link and protocol
                 * between your home built sensors/actuators and HA controller of choice.
                 * The sensors forms a self healing radio network with optional repeaters. Each
                 * repeater and gateway builds a routing tables in EEPROM which keeps track of the
                 * network topology allowing messages to be routed to nodes.
                 *
                 * Created by Henrik Ekblad <henrik.ekblad@mysensors.org>
                 * Copyright (C) 2013-2015 Sensnology AB
                 * Full contributor list: https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/graphs/contributors
                 *
                 * Documentation: http://www.mysensors.org
                 * Support Forum: http://forum.mysensors.org
                 *
                 * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
                 * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
                 * version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation.
                 *
                 *******************************
                 *
                 * REVISION HISTORY
                 * Version 1.0 - Henrik EKblad
                 * 
                 * DESCRIPTION
                 * Example sketch showing how to measue light level using a LM393 photo-resistor 
                 * http://www.mysensors.org/build/light
                 */
                
                #define MY_NODE_ID 10
                #define MY_BAUD_RATE 57600
                
                // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                //#define MY_DEBUG 
                
                // Enable and select radio type attached
                #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                
                #include <SPI.h>
                #include <MySensors.h>  
                
                #define LIGHT_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN A3
                #define MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN A1
                
                unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 1000; // Sleep time between reads (in milliseconds)
                
                #define CHILD_ID_LIGHT 0
                #define CHILD_ID_MICRO 0
                #define TRIPPED_THRESHOLD 50
                
                MyMessage msg_light(CHILD_ID_LIGHT, V_LIGHT_LEVEL); // 23
                MyMessage msg_micro(CHILD_ID_MICRO, V_TRIPPED);     // 16
                MyMessage msg_micro_debug(0,V_VAR1);   // 24
                MyMessage msg_obstx_debug(0,V_VAR2);   // 25
                
                void before()
                {
                  // LightSensor
                  pinMode(A3,INPUT_PULLUP);
                  pinMode(A2,OUTPUT);
                  digitalWrite(A2,LOW);  
                
                  // Microwave
                  pinMode(5,OUTPUT);        // VCC BISS0001
                  digitalWrite(5,HIGH);
                  
                  pinMode(6,OUTPUT);        // Enabled
                  digitalWrite(6,LOW);      // Enable
                  
                  pinMode(7,OUTPUT);        // GND
                  digitalWrite(7,LOW);
                  
                  pinMode(8,OUTPUT);        // VCC Radar
                  digitalWrite(8,HIGH);
                
                  pinMode(A1,INPUT);        // PIR 2nd Amplification Stage
                
                  // Other
                }
                void setup()
                {
                 
                }
                void presentation()  {
                  // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                  sendSketchInfo("Microwave+Light", "1.0");
                
                  // Register all sensors to gateway (they will be created as child devices)
                  // https://www.mysensors.org/download/serial_api_20#sensor-type
                  present(CHILD_ID_LIGHT, S_LIGHT_LEVEL);
                  present(CHILD_ID_MICRO, S_MOTION);
                  //present(0, S_ARDUINO_NODE);
                  
                }
                
                void loop()      
                {     
                  // Report VCC
                  static long vcc = readVcc();
                  static int vccpercent = map(vcc,1800,3280,0,100);
                  sendBatteryLevel(max(min(vccpercent,100),0),false);
                  Serial << "| vcc: ";
                  p(F("%4d"),vcc);
                  Serial << " ";
                  // Required for ack
                  //wait(100);
                
                  // Report LightLevel
                  analogRead(LIGHT_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                  int lightLevel_raw = analogRead(LIGHT_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                  int lightLevel = (1023-lightLevel_raw)/10.23; // as of 1023 !!
                  Serial << "| light_raw: ";
                  p(F("%4d"),lightLevel_raw);
                  Serial << " ";
                  Serial << "| light: ";
                  p(F("%3d"),lightLevel);
                  Serial << " ";
                  send(msg_light.set(lightLevel),false);
                
                  // Report WirelessLink Information
                  Serial << "| observe_tx: ";
                  uint8_t obstx = RF24_getObserveTX();
                  p(F("%X"),obstx);
                  Serial << " ";
                  send(msg_obstx_debug.set(0x0F&obstx),false);
                 
                  // Report Microwave
                  Statistic mw_s;
                  mw_s.clear();
                  
                  delay(90);
                  analogRead(MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                  delay(10);
                  for(int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                  {
                    mw_s.add(analogRead(MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN));
                    delay(1);
                  }
                  Serial << "| mw_raw: ";
                  int stddev = mw_s.pop_stdev();
                  p(F("%4d"),stddev);
                  Serial << " ";
                  
                  Serial << "| mw_min: ";
                  int minimum = mw_s.minimum();
                  p(F("%4d"),minimum);
                  Serial << " ";
                
                  Serial << "| mw_max: ";
                  int maximum = mw_s.maximum();
                  p(F("%4d"),maximum);
                  Serial << " ";
                  
                  Serial << "| mw: " << (stddev > TRIPPED_THRESHOLD ? "1" : "0") << " ";
                  send(msg_micro_debug.set(stddev),false);
                  while(!send(msg_micro.set(stddev > TRIPPED_THRESHOLD ? "1" : "0"),true))
                  {
                    wait(10);
                  }
                  
                  if(isTransportOK()) 
                    wait(100);
                  else
                    wait(1000);
                  Serial << endl;
                  //mysleep(500);
                
                }
                // https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3463/m_ack_variable-or-m_set_variable/2
                void receive(const MyMessage &message) {
                  if (message.isAck()) {
                      Serial.print("| GW ack");
                      }
                }
                

                Helper.ino

                long readVcc() {
                  // Read 1.1V reference against AVcc
                  // set the reference to Vcc and the measurement to the internal 1.1V reference
                  #if defined(__AVR_ATmega32U4__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega1280__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega2560__)
                    ADMUX = _BV(REFS0) | _BV(MUX4) | _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2) | _BV(MUX1);
                  #elif defined (__AVR_ATtiny24__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny44__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny84__)
                    ADMUX = _BV(MUX5) | _BV(MUX0);
                  #elif defined (__AVR_ATtiny25__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny45__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny85__)
                    ADMUX = _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2);
                  #else
                    ADMUX = _BV(REFS0) | _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2) | _BV(MUX1);
                  #endif  
                
                  delay(2); // Wait for Vref to settle
                  ADCSRA |= _BV(ADSC); // Start conversion
                  while (bit_is_set(ADCSRA,ADSC)); // measuring
                
                  uint8_t low  = ADCL; // must read ADCL first - it then locks ADCH  
                  uint8_t high = ADCH; // unlocks both
                
                  long result = (high<<8) | low;
                
                  result = 1125300L / result; // Calculate Vcc (in mV); 1125300 = 1.1*1023*1000
                  //result *= 1.0637;
                  return result; // Vcc in millivolts
                }
                
                #include <stdarg.h>
                void p(const __FlashStringHelper *fmt, ... ){
                  char buf[128]; // resulting string limited to 128 chars
                  va_list args;
                  va_start (args, fmt);
                #ifdef __AVR__
                  vsnprintf_P(buf, sizeof(buf), (const char *)fmt, args); // progmem for AVR
                #else
                  vsnprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), (const char *)fmt, args); // for the rest of the world
                #endif
                  va_end(args);
                  Serial.print(buf);
                }
                
                void mysleep(int SLEEP_TIME)
                {
                    if(isTransportOK()){
                      Serial << "| wait ";
                      wait(25);
                      Serial << "| zZz > ";
                
                      sleep(SLEEP_TIME);
                      Serial << "| < zZz " << endl;
                    } 
                    else {
                      wait(1000);
                    }
                }
                
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                • cimba007C cimba007

                  @Yveaux I did some extensive testing on the FC1816 module and I thought I might drop my experience:

                  http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/226031/pinout-of-microwave-motion-sensor-fc1816

                  In the end I used an 150ohm Series resistor + ~100µF cap behind this to power the FC1816. This eliminated much of the leftover noise. If this is not enough I presented a way to lower the module amplification. In the end I deactivated the biss-trigger output alltogether and grabbed the raw signal. Doing some manual processing:

                  1. take 100 reads
                  2. get the stddev (statistics library)
                  3. high stddev = high fluctuation in values = movement

                  Take a look at my current working copy of my code for the FC1816:

                  Some notes:

                  I power the VCC of the FC1816 from some arduino pins. Thus I can deactivate the microwave sensor at will. This is still not recommended. If you visit the previous link you can see that the BISS has some kind of "warmup"-Period.

                  I use 3,3Volt to power the NRF24, the arduino and the FC1816 and suffered no strange consequences so far.

                  Get get some insight about the link quality of the NRF24 I made the function RF24_getObserverTX() accessible from user-space:

                  MySensors\drivers\RF24\RF24.cpp

                  uint8_t RF24_getObserveTX(void)
                  {
                  	return RF24_readByteRegister(OBSERVE_TX);
                  }
                  

                  MySensors\drivers\RF24\RF24.h

                  uint8_t RF24_getObserveTX(void);
                  

                  The Idea behind the OBSERVE_TX register is that the lower byte presents the number of retrys the NRF24 used in the last send.
                  The upper 4 bits present the number of total failed packets. I suggest using (0x0F & RF24_getObserveTX()) to get a usable number 0-15 presenting the retry-count. Anything > 0 suggests a packetloss on your link. 15 most likely will mean you ran into an complete fail as the max number of retrys was exhausted.

                  This number might be capped by

                  // ARD, auto retry count
                  #define RF24_ARC 15
                  

                  from the RF24.h driver-file.

                  TO not run into compiling errors you might need:

                  http://arduiniana.org/libraries/streaming/
                  https://github.com/RobTillaart/Arduino/tree/master/libraries/Statistic

                  MicrowaveRadarSensor.ino

                  #include <Streaming.h>
                  #include "Statistic.h"
                  
                  
                  /**
                   * The MySensors Arduino library handles the wireless radio link and protocol
                   * between your home built sensors/actuators and HA controller of choice.
                   * The sensors forms a self healing radio network with optional repeaters. Each
                   * repeater and gateway builds a routing tables in EEPROM which keeps track of the
                   * network topology allowing messages to be routed to nodes.
                   *
                   * Created by Henrik Ekblad <henrik.ekblad@mysensors.org>
                   * Copyright (C) 2013-2015 Sensnology AB
                   * Full contributor list: https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/graphs/contributors
                   *
                   * Documentation: http://www.mysensors.org
                   * Support Forum: http://forum.mysensors.org
                   *
                   * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
                   * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
                   * version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation.
                   *
                   *******************************
                   *
                   * REVISION HISTORY
                   * Version 1.0 - Henrik EKblad
                   * 
                   * DESCRIPTION
                   * Example sketch showing how to measue light level using a LM393 photo-resistor 
                   * http://www.mysensors.org/build/light
                   */
                  
                  #define MY_NODE_ID 10
                  #define MY_BAUD_RATE 57600
                  
                  // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                  //#define MY_DEBUG 
                  
                  // Enable and select radio type attached
                  #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                  //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                  
                  #include <SPI.h>
                  #include <MySensors.h>  
                  
                  #define LIGHT_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN A3
                  #define MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN A1
                  
                  unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 1000; // Sleep time between reads (in milliseconds)
                  
                  #define CHILD_ID_LIGHT 0
                  #define CHILD_ID_MICRO 0
                  #define TRIPPED_THRESHOLD 50
                  
                  MyMessage msg_light(CHILD_ID_LIGHT, V_LIGHT_LEVEL); // 23
                  MyMessage msg_micro(CHILD_ID_MICRO, V_TRIPPED);     // 16
                  MyMessage msg_micro_debug(0,V_VAR1);   // 24
                  MyMessage msg_obstx_debug(0,V_VAR2);   // 25
                  
                  void before()
                  {
                    // LightSensor
                    pinMode(A3,INPUT_PULLUP);
                    pinMode(A2,OUTPUT);
                    digitalWrite(A2,LOW);  
                  
                    // Microwave
                    pinMode(5,OUTPUT);        // VCC BISS0001
                    digitalWrite(5,HIGH);
                    
                    pinMode(6,OUTPUT);        // Enabled
                    digitalWrite(6,LOW);      // Enable
                    
                    pinMode(7,OUTPUT);        // GND
                    digitalWrite(7,LOW);
                    
                    pinMode(8,OUTPUT);        // VCC Radar
                    digitalWrite(8,HIGH);
                  
                    pinMode(A1,INPUT);        // PIR 2nd Amplification Stage
                  
                    // Other
                  }
                  void setup()
                  {
                   
                  }
                  void presentation()  {
                    // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                    sendSketchInfo("Microwave+Light", "1.0");
                  
                    // Register all sensors to gateway (they will be created as child devices)
                    // https://www.mysensors.org/download/serial_api_20#sensor-type
                    present(CHILD_ID_LIGHT, S_LIGHT_LEVEL);
                    present(CHILD_ID_MICRO, S_MOTION);
                    //present(0, S_ARDUINO_NODE);
                    
                  }
                  
                  void loop()      
                  {     
                    // Report VCC
                    static long vcc = readVcc();
                    static int vccpercent = map(vcc,1800,3280,0,100);
                    sendBatteryLevel(max(min(vccpercent,100),0),false);
                    Serial << "| vcc: ";
                    p(F("%4d"),vcc);
                    Serial << " ";
                    // Required for ack
                    //wait(100);
                  
                    // Report LightLevel
                    analogRead(LIGHT_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                    int lightLevel_raw = analogRead(LIGHT_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                    int lightLevel = (1023-lightLevel_raw)/10.23; // as of 1023 !!
                    Serial << "| light_raw: ";
                    p(F("%4d"),lightLevel_raw);
                    Serial << " ";
                    Serial << "| light: ";
                    p(F("%3d"),lightLevel);
                    Serial << " ";
                    send(msg_light.set(lightLevel),false);
                  
                    // Report WirelessLink Information
                    Serial << "| observe_tx: ";
                    uint8_t obstx = RF24_getObserveTX();
                    p(F("%X"),obstx);
                    Serial << " ";
                    send(msg_obstx_debug.set(0x0F&obstx),false);
                   
                    // Report Microwave
                    Statistic mw_s;
                    mw_s.clear();
                    
                    delay(90);
                    analogRead(MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                    delay(10);
                    for(int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                    {
                      mw_s.add(analogRead(MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN));
                      delay(1);
                    }
                    Serial << "| mw_raw: ";
                    int stddev = mw_s.pop_stdev();
                    p(F("%4d"),stddev);
                    Serial << " ";
                    
                    Serial << "| mw_min: ";
                    int minimum = mw_s.minimum();
                    p(F("%4d"),minimum);
                    Serial << " ";
                  
                    Serial << "| mw_max: ";
                    int maximum = mw_s.maximum();
                    p(F("%4d"),maximum);
                    Serial << " ";
                    
                    Serial << "| mw: " << (stddev > TRIPPED_THRESHOLD ? "1" : "0") << " ";
                    send(msg_micro_debug.set(stddev),false);
                    while(!send(msg_micro.set(stddev > TRIPPED_THRESHOLD ? "1" : "0"),true))
                    {
                      wait(10);
                    }
                    
                    if(isTransportOK()) 
                      wait(100);
                    else
                      wait(1000);
                    Serial << endl;
                    //mysleep(500);
                  
                  }
                  // https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3463/m_ack_variable-or-m_set_variable/2
                  void receive(const MyMessage &message) {
                    if (message.isAck()) {
                        Serial.print("| GW ack");
                        }
                  }
                  

                  Helper.ino

                  long readVcc() {
                    // Read 1.1V reference against AVcc
                    // set the reference to Vcc and the measurement to the internal 1.1V reference
                    #if defined(__AVR_ATmega32U4__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega1280__) || defined(__AVR_ATmega2560__)
                      ADMUX = _BV(REFS0) | _BV(MUX4) | _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2) | _BV(MUX1);
                    #elif defined (__AVR_ATtiny24__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny44__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny84__)
                      ADMUX = _BV(MUX5) | _BV(MUX0);
                    #elif defined (__AVR_ATtiny25__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny45__) || defined(__AVR_ATtiny85__)
                      ADMUX = _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2);
                    #else
                      ADMUX = _BV(REFS0) | _BV(MUX3) | _BV(MUX2) | _BV(MUX1);
                    #endif  
                  
                    delay(2); // Wait for Vref to settle
                    ADCSRA |= _BV(ADSC); // Start conversion
                    while (bit_is_set(ADCSRA,ADSC)); // measuring
                  
                    uint8_t low  = ADCL; // must read ADCL first - it then locks ADCH  
                    uint8_t high = ADCH; // unlocks both
                  
                    long result = (high<<8) | low;
                  
                    result = 1125300L / result; // Calculate Vcc (in mV); 1125300 = 1.1*1023*1000
                    //result *= 1.0637;
                    return result; // Vcc in millivolts
                  }
                  
                  #include <stdarg.h>
                  void p(const __FlashStringHelper *fmt, ... ){
                    char buf[128]; // resulting string limited to 128 chars
                    va_list args;
                    va_start (args, fmt);
                  #ifdef __AVR__
                    vsnprintf_P(buf, sizeof(buf), (const char *)fmt, args); // progmem for AVR
                  #else
                    vsnprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), (const char *)fmt, args); // for the rest of the world
                  #endif
                    va_end(args);
                    Serial.print(buf);
                  }
                  
                  void mysleep(int SLEEP_TIME)
                  {
                      if(isTransportOK()){
                        Serial << "| wait ";
                        wait(25);
                        Serial << "| zZz > ";
                  
                        sleep(SLEEP_TIME);
                        Serial << "| < zZz " << endl;
                      } 
                      else {
                        wait(1000);
                      }
                  }
                  
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                  #27

                  @cimba007 wow, you did some serious research there! (I see you make good use of the arduino plot function)
                  I'll certainly come back to your research once I start with this sensor (so much to choose from...)
                  Any ideas about current consumption? Is this a viable alternative to battery powered pir sensors?

                  http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                  • YveauxY Yveaux

                    @cimba007 wow, you did some serious research there! (I see you make good use of the arduino plot function)
                    I'll certainly come back to your research once I start with this sensor (so much to choose from...)
                    Any ideas about current consumption? Is this a viable alternative to battery powered pir sensors?

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                    #28

                    @Yveaux From my oppinion the radar modules are not suited for battery usage. Their drain something like 3-5mA and are not easy to put to sleep. Remember the warm-up period of the BISS. It seems to be like 10-15seconds.

                    The plots are from another sketch, not the one I posted but using them is pretty straight forward.

                    In my sketch have a look at these parts:

                      Serial << "| mw_min: ";
                      int minimum = mw_s.minimum();
                      p(F("%4d"),minimum);
                      Serial << " ";
                    

                    To use the arduino plotting all you ahve to do is send a string like this:

                    0,10,534,123 .. whatever .. beware that no other serial output should happen if you want to use the arduino build-in plotting. Using the streaming library ( http://arduiniana.org/libraries/streaming/ ) it all boils down to a single line:

                    Serial << mw_s.minimum() << "," << mw_s.maximum() << "," << mw_s.pop_stdev() << endl;
                    

                    In addition to the power consumption my approach requires sampling the analog input for a whole second .. or the more the better.

                    This might be improved if you can prevent the FC1816 from retriggering itself. I had some serious problems as during the "inhibitor" period the analogOutput from the 2nd amplification stage was quite high often instantly retrigger the biss-output after the inhibition period ended.

                    One solution might be this:

                    Try this if you want to look down this approch:

                    • Power the FC1816 VCC and UDP through an RC-Section (100Ohm Resistor and after that (on the side of the FC1816) an capacitory ~100-220µF)
                    • Replace amplification resistor from 105 to eg. 154 (lowering the amplification)

                    To find the best value I used an variable resistor parallel to the 105-Ohms SMD-Resistor

                    But .. don't forget the benefits of *he microwave sensor. You can mount it straight to a door and it would detect persons in front of the door without them noticing. For this reason I try to build an "Alarm-node" that can be hidden inside the house. Later I might improve the FC1816 with some aluminium foil for shielding as suggested earlier.

                    I would suggest using an PIR if you need a battery powered node. Have a look at ( http://kavacky.lv/bypassing-sen-08630-pir-motion-sensors-voltage-regulator-to-work-with-3-3-v ). Some PIRs have a Regulator which might not be suited if you are running on battery using 3,3Volt.

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                    • cimba007C cimba007

                      @Yveaux From my oppinion the radar modules are not suited for battery usage. Their drain something like 3-5mA and are not easy to put to sleep. Remember the warm-up period of the BISS. It seems to be like 10-15seconds.

                      The plots are from another sketch, not the one I posted but using them is pretty straight forward.

                      In my sketch have a look at these parts:

                        Serial << "| mw_min: ";
                        int minimum = mw_s.minimum();
                        p(F("%4d"),minimum);
                        Serial << " ";
                      

                      To use the arduino plotting all you ahve to do is send a string like this:

                      0,10,534,123 .. whatever .. beware that no other serial output should happen if you want to use the arduino build-in plotting. Using the streaming library ( http://arduiniana.org/libraries/streaming/ ) it all boils down to a single line:

                      Serial << mw_s.minimum() << "," << mw_s.maximum() << "," << mw_s.pop_stdev() << endl;
                      

                      In addition to the power consumption my approach requires sampling the analog input for a whole second .. or the more the better.

                      This might be improved if you can prevent the FC1816 from retriggering itself. I had some serious problems as during the "inhibitor" period the analogOutput from the 2nd amplification stage was quite high often instantly retrigger the biss-output after the inhibition period ended.

                      One solution might be this:

                      Try this if you want to look down this approch:

                      • Power the FC1816 VCC and UDP through an RC-Section (100Ohm Resistor and after that (on the side of the FC1816) an capacitory ~100-220µF)
                      • Replace amplification resistor from 105 to eg. 154 (lowering the amplification)

                      To find the best value I used an variable resistor parallel to the 105-Ohms SMD-Resistor

                      But .. don't forget the benefits of *he microwave sensor. You can mount it straight to a door and it would detect persons in front of the door without them noticing. For this reason I try to build an "Alarm-node" that can be hidden inside the house. Later I might improve the FC1816 with some aluminium foil for shielding as suggested earlier.

                      I would suggest using an PIR if you need a battery powered node. Have a look at ( http://kavacky.lv/bypassing-sen-08630-pir-motion-sensors-voltage-regulator-to-work-with-3-3-v ). Some PIRs have a Regulator which might not be suited if you are running on battery using 3,3Volt.

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                      @cimba007 I know, I also used serial plotting for some projects. Very handy, very unstable (at that time). Probably improved since then, as I haven't used it recently.

                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                        wrote on last edited by cimba007
                        #30

                        All things from my previous post regarding the wiring are still needed:

                        Here is a stripped down example on how to use the FC1816 Microwave Sensor. You need the following library:

                        https://github.com/RobTillaart/Arduino/tree/master/libraries/Statistic

                        #include "Statistic.h"
                        
                        #define MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN A1
                        
                        void setup()
                        {
                          
                          Serial.begin(57600);
                          Serial.print("begin");
                          
                          // Microwave
                          pinMode(5,OUTPUT);        // VCC BISS0001
                          digitalWrite(5,HIGH);
                          
                          pinMode(6,OUTPUT);        // Enabled
                          digitalWrite(6,LOW);      // DISABLE PLEASE!
                          
                          pinMode(7,OUTPUT);        // GND
                          digitalWrite(7,LOW);
                        
                          pinMode(A1,INPUT);        // PIR 2nd amplification stage
                        
                          pinMode(A0,OUTPUT);       // UPD microwave generator
                          digitalWrite(A0,HIGH);
                        
                        }
                        
                        void loop()      
                        {     
                          // Report Microwave
                          static Statistic mw_s;
                          static uint16_t stdev_sum = 0;
                          //mw_s.clear();
                        
                          //digitalWrite(8,HIGH);
                          //delay(100);
                          analogRead(MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                          uint16_t reading;
                          for(int i = 0; i < 200; i++)
                          {
                            reading = analogRead(MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                            mw_s.add(reading);
                            //Serial.println(reading);
                            //Serial.flush();
                            //delay(50);
                            //LowPower.powerDown(SLEEP_60MS, ADC_ON, BOD_OFF);  
                            //delay(1);
                          }
                          Serial.print(mw_s.minimum());   Serial.print(",");
                          Serial.print(mw_s.average());   Serial.print(",");
                          Serial.print(mw_s.maximum());   Serial.print(",");
                          Serial.print(mw_s.pop_stdev()); Serial.print(",");
                          stdev_sum += mw_s.pop_stdev();
                          Serial.print(stdev_sum); //Serial.print(",");
                          Serial.println();
                          stdev_sum *= 0.9;
                          mw_s.clear();
                        }
                        

                        I just had the idea to sum up the std-dev and decrease it by 10% every round. Thus the code is less prone to peaks.

                        0_1471429474464_upload-9c26c9f3-6ccd-4aaf-9bcc-797ad4c03be4

                        stdev_sum is the lower dark blue line which can now be much easier compared to a threshold.

                        Some measurement with my µCurrent-Gold:

                        Unmodified code as above, power LED removed from ProMini @ 8Mhz internal osci with LDO desoldered
                        4,8mA

                        I tried to put the FC1816 into sleep by disable the power to the Microwave generator but this doesn't work.
                        I modified the fuses for 8Mhz with 0ms wakeup delay for stabelizing the oscillator. No risk no phun ;-)

                        The most practical solution I got to replace a PIR (still nothing as close as a PIR ;-ö)

                        1530µA

                        with this code:

                        Note that the radar generator just can't be disable as it needs 10-15seconds to stabelize after power up

                        #include <LowPower.h>
                        
                        #include "Statistic.h"
                        
                        #define MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN A1
                        
                        void setup()
                        {
                          
                          Serial.begin(57600);
                          Serial.print("begin");
                          
                          // Microwave
                          pinMode(5,OUTPUT);        // VCC BISS0001
                          digitalWrite(5,HIGH);
                          
                          pinMode(6,OUTPUT);        // Enabled
                          digitalWrite(6,LOW);      // DISABLE PLEASE!
                          
                          pinMode(7,OUTPUT);        // GND
                          digitalWrite(7,LOW);
                        
                          pinMode(A1,INPUT);        // PIR 2nd amplification stage
                        
                          pinMode(A0,OUTPUT);       // UPD microwave generator
                          digitalWrite(A0,HIGH);
                        
                        }
                        
                        void loop()      
                        {     
                          // Report Microwave
                          static Statistic mw_s;
                          static uint16_t stdev_sum = 0;
                          //mw_s.clear();
                        
                          
                          //delay(100);
                          analogRead(MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                          uint16_t reading;
                          for(int i = 0; i < 10; i++)
                          {
                            LowPower.powerDown(SLEEP_15Ms, ADC_ON, BOD_OFF);  
                            reading = analogRead(MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                            mw_s.add(reading);
                            //Serial.println(reading);
                            //Serial.flush();
                            //delay(50);
                            LowPower.powerDown(SLEEP_15Ms, ADC_ON, BOD_OFF);  
                            //delay(1);
                          }
                          Serial.print(mw_s.minimum());   Serial.print(",");
                          Serial.print(mw_s.average());   Serial.print(",");
                          Serial.print(mw_s.maximum());   Serial.print(",");
                          Serial.print(mw_s.pop_stdev()); Serial.print(",");
                          stdev_sum += mw_s.pop_stdev();
                          Serial.print(stdev_sum); //Serial.print(",");
                          Serial.println();
                          Serial.flush();
                          stdev_sum *= 0.9;
                          mw_s.clear();
                          
                        }
                        
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                        • cimba007C cimba007

                          All things from my previous post regarding the wiring are still needed:

                          Here is a stripped down example on how to use the FC1816 Microwave Sensor. You need the following library:

                          https://github.com/RobTillaart/Arduino/tree/master/libraries/Statistic

                          #include "Statistic.h"
                          
                          #define MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN A1
                          
                          void setup()
                          {
                            
                            Serial.begin(57600);
                            Serial.print("begin");
                            
                            // Microwave
                            pinMode(5,OUTPUT);        // VCC BISS0001
                            digitalWrite(5,HIGH);
                            
                            pinMode(6,OUTPUT);        // Enabled
                            digitalWrite(6,LOW);      // DISABLE PLEASE!
                            
                            pinMode(7,OUTPUT);        // GND
                            digitalWrite(7,LOW);
                          
                            pinMode(A1,INPUT);        // PIR 2nd amplification stage
                          
                            pinMode(A0,OUTPUT);       // UPD microwave generator
                            digitalWrite(A0,HIGH);
                          
                          }
                          
                          void loop()      
                          {     
                            // Report Microwave
                            static Statistic mw_s;
                            static uint16_t stdev_sum = 0;
                            //mw_s.clear();
                          
                            //digitalWrite(8,HIGH);
                            //delay(100);
                            analogRead(MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                            uint16_t reading;
                            for(int i = 0; i < 200; i++)
                            {
                              reading = analogRead(MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                              mw_s.add(reading);
                              //Serial.println(reading);
                              //Serial.flush();
                              //delay(50);
                              //LowPower.powerDown(SLEEP_60MS, ADC_ON, BOD_OFF);  
                              //delay(1);
                            }
                            Serial.print(mw_s.minimum());   Serial.print(",");
                            Serial.print(mw_s.average());   Serial.print(",");
                            Serial.print(mw_s.maximum());   Serial.print(",");
                            Serial.print(mw_s.pop_stdev()); Serial.print(",");
                            stdev_sum += mw_s.pop_stdev();
                            Serial.print(stdev_sum); //Serial.print(",");
                            Serial.println();
                            stdev_sum *= 0.9;
                            mw_s.clear();
                          }
                          

                          I just had the idea to sum up the std-dev and decrease it by 10% every round. Thus the code is less prone to peaks.

                          0_1471429474464_upload-9c26c9f3-6ccd-4aaf-9bcc-797ad4c03be4

                          stdev_sum is the lower dark blue line which can now be much easier compared to a threshold.

                          Some measurement with my µCurrent-Gold:

                          Unmodified code as above, power LED removed from ProMini @ 8Mhz internal osci with LDO desoldered
                          4,8mA

                          I tried to put the FC1816 into sleep by disable the power to the Microwave generator but this doesn't work.
                          I modified the fuses for 8Mhz with 0ms wakeup delay for stabelizing the oscillator. No risk no phun ;-)

                          The most practical solution I got to replace a PIR (still nothing as close as a PIR ;-ö)

                          1530µA

                          with this code:

                          Note that the radar generator just can't be disable as it needs 10-15seconds to stabelize after power up

                          #include <LowPower.h>
                          
                          #include "Statistic.h"
                          
                          #define MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN A1
                          
                          void setup()
                          {
                            
                            Serial.begin(57600);
                            Serial.print("begin");
                            
                            // Microwave
                            pinMode(5,OUTPUT);        // VCC BISS0001
                            digitalWrite(5,HIGH);
                            
                            pinMode(6,OUTPUT);        // Enabled
                            digitalWrite(6,LOW);      // DISABLE PLEASE!
                            
                            pinMode(7,OUTPUT);        // GND
                            digitalWrite(7,LOW);
                          
                            pinMode(A1,INPUT);        // PIR 2nd amplification stage
                          
                            pinMode(A0,OUTPUT);       // UPD microwave generator
                            digitalWrite(A0,HIGH);
                          
                          }
                          
                          void loop()      
                          {     
                            // Report Microwave
                            static Statistic mw_s;
                            static uint16_t stdev_sum = 0;
                            //mw_s.clear();
                          
                            
                            //delay(100);
                            analogRead(MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                            uint16_t reading;
                            for(int i = 0; i < 10; i++)
                            {
                              LowPower.powerDown(SLEEP_15Ms, ADC_ON, BOD_OFF);  
                              reading = analogRead(MICRO_SENSOR_ANALOG_PIN);
                              mw_s.add(reading);
                              //Serial.println(reading);
                              //Serial.flush();
                              //delay(50);
                              LowPower.powerDown(SLEEP_15Ms, ADC_ON, BOD_OFF);  
                              //delay(1);
                            }
                            Serial.print(mw_s.minimum());   Serial.print(",");
                            Serial.print(mw_s.average());   Serial.print(",");
                            Serial.print(mw_s.maximum());   Serial.print(",");
                            Serial.print(mw_s.pop_stdev()); Serial.print(",");
                            stdev_sum += mw_s.pop_stdev();
                            Serial.print(stdev_sum); //Serial.print(",");
                            Serial.println();
                            Serial.flush();
                            stdev_sum *= 0.9;
                            mw_s.clear();
                            
                          }
                          
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                          @cimba007 Thanks for the update :+1: Very interesting numbers!
                          The 'sleep' current of 1.5mA rules out the microwave module as battery powered PIR replacement for me...
                          As a mains powered sensor they're still very interesting, though!

                          http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                            #32

                            After a few more days of testing I noticed these ugly "PEAKS" from my FC1816 readings. I added lots of capacitors and RC and LC sections but still .. nasty little peaks (left side in the beginning)

                            0_1471879150498_upload-a9d03c1d-941a-4179-9306-7fb6eb708a7b

                            In my previous post replace this line:

                            stdev_sum += mw_s.pop_stdev();
                            

                            with this:

                              // Ignore the first 3 peaks within short succession
                              // Real movement should mean there are more peaks/activity over a long time
                              static uint8_t peakcount = 0;
                              if(mw_s.pop_stdev() > 30 && peakcount < 3)
                              {
                                peakcount++;
                              }
                              else
                              {
                                stdev_sum += mw_s.pop_stdev();
                                stdev_sum *= 0.92; //
                                if (stdev_sum >= 7)
                                  stdev_sum -= 7; // Default background noise
                                if (stdev_sum > 512)
                                  stdev_sum = 512;    
                            
                                if(peakcount > 0)
                                  peakcount--;
                              }
                            

                            With this code the first 3 peaks are essentially removed .. if there is really some movement it should last for a few seconds and would still be detected.

                            I have invested like 10-20hours into testing and debugging the FC1816 and I can say .. this thing is .. peculiar ..

                            I hate it cause of the spikes, the amplification which has to be manually altered with a pot .. but at the same time I love it ..

                            I can detect my foot beckoning 2-3meters apart in my bed :D

                            An example of the code snipped in action:

                            0_1471879619120_upload-a3996be3-43b2-417d-ab69-e2545d288fd3

                            Here you can see the big spikes in the beginning completely ignored (1)

                            0_1471879713596_upload-3031e15c-37cb-4799-8b4a-ea6c3193f6bf

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                            • cimba007C cimba007

                              After a few more days of testing I noticed these ugly "PEAKS" from my FC1816 readings. I added lots of capacitors and RC and LC sections but still .. nasty little peaks (left side in the beginning)

                              0_1471879150498_upload-a9d03c1d-941a-4179-9306-7fb6eb708a7b

                              In my previous post replace this line:

                              stdev_sum += mw_s.pop_stdev();
                              

                              with this:

                                // Ignore the first 3 peaks within short succession
                                // Real movement should mean there are more peaks/activity over a long time
                                static uint8_t peakcount = 0;
                                if(mw_s.pop_stdev() > 30 && peakcount < 3)
                                {
                                  peakcount++;
                                }
                                else
                                {
                                  stdev_sum += mw_s.pop_stdev();
                                  stdev_sum *= 0.92; //
                                  if (stdev_sum >= 7)
                                    stdev_sum -= 7; // Default background noise
                                  if (stdev_sum > 512)
                                    stdev_sum = 512;    
                              
                                  if(peakcount > 0)
                                    peakcount--;
                                }
                              

                              With this code the first 3 peaks are essentially removed .. if there is really some movement it should last for a few seconds and would still be detected.

                              I have invested like 10-20hours into testing and debugging the FC1816 and I can say .. this thing is .. peculiar ..

                              I hate it cause of the spikes, the amplification which has to be manually altered with a pot .. but at the same time I love it ..

                              I can detect my foot beckoning 2-3meters apart in my bed :D

                              An example of the code snipped in action:

                              0_1471879619120_upload-a3996be3-43b2-417d-ab69-e2545d288fd3

                              Here you can see the big spikes in the beginning completely ignored (1)

                              0_1471879713596_upload-3031e15c-37cb-4799-8b4a-ea6c3193f6bf

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                              #33

                              @cimba007 awesome to read about all the research and debugging you did on this topic!
                              Did you consider pouring the code into a library, so it can be reused and updated easily?

                              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                #34

                                Currently I don't plan to make a library .. a library implies that the sensor is very easy to use .. plug in + import library.

                                The FC1816 is not such a sensor.

                                • Needs Voltage-Supply filter (RC Section)
                                • Need separate cable to grab the signal at the 2nd amplification stage
                                • Need potentiometer to lower the amplification
                                • Is very prone to random noise (in fact even entering RF24 or ATMEGA328 low power mode might increase noise floor a lot)

                                Using a "simple to use" library and not getting the expected result of an "easy"-sensor would be very disappointing. For now I would say this is an advanced sensor with some pitfalls.

                                I update this thread with my findings to hopefully make everybodys life a bit easyer if you want to tinker with the FC1816 although you now know it is a little beast ;-)

                                If you need any help just ask here and I will support you the best I can.

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                                  Are there any new updates on these sensors? I noticed there are some "new" one that have 2 potentiometers like the standard PIR sensors.

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                                    It's a review of some radar sensors if anyone is interested.

                                    https://youtu.be/9WiJJgIi3W0

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                                      It's a review of some radar sensors if anyone is interested.

                                      https://youtu.be/9WiJJgIi3W0

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                                      @gohan Can you help how to bypass this sensor without changing of sensor ....

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                                        I did not get what you meant

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                                          Does anyone have a complete MySensors sketch for these that they would be willing to share?

                                          I tried to create a wildlife sensor with it a while ago.. but the signal seemed to always be high.

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