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💬 In Wall AC/DC Pcb (with Relay) for MySensors (SMD)

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  • N Nightbodom

    @sundberg84 thanks for advice... I successfully load bootloader through ISP with spare Uno as programmer, then I try to load a sketch with ftdi but it didn't recognize PCB. I also try with arduino uno as ISP and it goes without problem. I use node manager sketch with relay and connect it to AC wires...and nothing!
    After visual checking of PCB I check fuses and notice that thermal fuse is dead. So I think I burn it with soldering. Any advice how to solder it?

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    sundberg84
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    @nightbodom - this can be a bit tricky. Some suggest cooling pincers or tongs to hold it while soldering. Myself I solder as normal and wait it to cool down before continue. As long as you are quick and not heat it up to much it should work.

    If you power the pcb with FTDI it should work without the fuse though. But I guess you power it through AC->HLK and use only RX/TX/GND and Rst from ftdi?

    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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    • N Nightbodom

      @sundberg84 thanks for advice... I successfully load bootloader through ISP with spare Uno as programmer, then I try to load a sketch with ftdi but it didn't recognize PCB. I also try with arduino uno as ISP and it goes without problem. I use node manager sketch with relay and connect it to AC wires...and nothing!
      After visual checking of PCB I check fuses and notice that thermal fuse is dead. So I think I burn it with soldering. Any advice how to solder it?

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      @nightbodom I use crocodile clips and get fairly good results with very few dead fuses....

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        Is it possible to use with RFM69 modul?

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          I guess not on as this module is using SMD NRF24 module

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          • gohanG gohan

            I guess not on as this module is using SMD NRF24 module

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            sundberg84
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            #60

            @Grave - well @gohan is right, I cant fit a RFM69 module on this board.

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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              #61

              I will try to rebuild it in eagle for RFM69. I think the space is there for an RFM69.

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                Grave
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                Or I will build an adapter.

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                  Grave
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                  #63

                  Hi sundberg84,
                  can you maybe take a look on my board. I have rebuild it so you can use it with rfm69 and NRF24 moduls. I have build an adapter, which will stand vertical behin the HLK-PM01.
                  But how can I upload a picture?

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                  • G Grave

                    Hi sundberg84,
                    can you maybe take a look on my board. I have rebuild it so you can use it with rfm69 and NRF24 moduls. I have build an adapter, which will stand vertical behin the HLK-PM01.
                    But how can I upload a picture?

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                    sundberg84
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                    #64

                    @grave Sure, you can just copy it into the message box.

                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                      http://www.directupload.net/file/d/5020/dyi4y337_png.htm

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                      • G Grave

                        http://www.directupload.net/file/d/5020/dyi4y337_png.htm

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                        sundberg84
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                        #66

                        @grave - at first it looks really good. Hard for me on a image to check every connection but I can not see any errors.

                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                          Grave
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                          Thanks,
                          I can upload this evening the schematic and the board. But my schematic is not so fine as yours. I didn´t find pinheaders with 2mm distance, so they are single pads.

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                            Grave
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                            Hi,
                            here are my schematic and the layout. I have build also an adapter for the rfm69 modul to use with an Sensebender Micro, because I had still place enough.
                            https://www.file-upload.net/download-13018265/InWallPCB71RFM69.brd.html
                            https://www.file-upload.net/download-13018266/InWallPCB71RFM69.sch.html

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                            • G Grave

                              Hi,
                              here are my schematic and the layout. I have build also an adapter for the rfm69 modul to use with an Sensebender Micro, because I had still place enough.
                              https://www.file-upload.net/download-13018265/InWallPCB71RFM69.brd.html
                              https://www.file-upload.net/download-13018266/InWallPCB71RFM69.sch.html

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                              @grave - sorry, I dont run Eagle anymore so I cant check them.

                              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                              RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                Grave
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                                Do you use both, thermal fuse and the normal fuse? I can´t see it in your picture. I don´t find a normal fuse with 0,2A in Germany.

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                                • G Grave

                                  Do you use both, thermal fuse and the normal fuse? I can´t see it in your picture. I don´t find a normal fuse with 0,2A in Germany.

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                                  sundberg84
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                                  @grave yes I do for both temp and current protection. I want it to be overkill when it's diy. If you follow the links on openhardware you will find the security discussion.

                                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                    Grave
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                                    #72

                                    I have read it. But i didn´t find the fuse on the picture. Do you have one with both fuses? I have problems to find such fuses in this dimension in Germany. For the Varistor I have find one with 120 Jule. I think it´s ok.

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                                    • G Grave

                                      I have read it. But i didn´t find the fuse on the picture. Do you have one with both fuses? I have problems to find such fuses in this dimension in Germany. For the Varistor I have find one with 120 Jule. I think it´s ok.

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                                      sundberg84
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                                      #73

                                      @grave - I have bought my fuses from China. Im sure its possible to find on mouser or digikey,.

                                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                        sineverba
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                                        @sundberg84 sorry for question. i'm tryng to understand the scope for the SSR Relay. Can you explain me? Is it for some kind of safe or is it governable from the Atmega? Thank you!

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                                          It has smaller footprint and it doesn't wear out during time like mechanical relays

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