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💬 Power Meter Pulse Sensor

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  • gohanG gohan

    is this the same sensor than the one in the guide?
    http://uk.farnell.com/ams/tsl250r-lf/photodiode-sensor-l-volts/dp/1182346

    Can I also use also photoresistor? (Since I already have one)

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    sundberg84
    Hardware Contributor
    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
    #56

    @gohan - nope its not the same, and yes you can use a photoresistor (i have just made one) but I needed a transistor for it to work and also it had to be completley dark. Using this on batteries its much better using just a photoresistor because the sensor in the guide draws about 1mA which will drain the batteris very quickly.

    I will post my sensor later.

    Edit: this is the sensor i build:

    0_1486915502085_1.jpg
    0_1486915592318_20170212_135834.jpg

    The node (including pro mini) draws about 50uA sleeping and 170uA not sleeping.
    The photoresistor was 5M ohm in complete dark.

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      gohan
      Mod
      wrote on last edited by
      #57

      The guide specifies LM393 Light Sensor or the tsl250r-lf so I thought it was the same since the same name.
      Since the node will be powered with it's power supply, I don't have any battery drain problem in this case. But why did you use a transistor? Can't you just check for a threshold value in the analog input to count as a pulse?

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      • gohanG gohan

        The guide specifies LM393 Light Sensor or the tsl250r-lf so I thought it was the same since the same name.
        Since the node will be powered with it's power supply, I don't have any battery drain problem in this case. But why did you use a transistor? Can't you just check for a threshold value in the analog input to count as a pulse?

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        wrote on last edited by sundberg84
        #58

        Ok, all I can see is that it doesnt look the same at all.
        @gohan - I tried, and I thought that should work - but for some reason I could not get it to trigger the interupt on the atmega :(
        Looking the the voltage thresholds it was supposed to work but it didnt. I was thinking it was to low uA but i dont know really.

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          flopp
          wrote on last edited by
          #59

          This is what I use togeheter with LM393
          https://www.kjell.com/se/sortiment/el-verktyg/elektronik/optokomponenter/ir-dioder-fototransistorer/fototransistor-p90042

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          • sundberg84S sundberg84

            Ok, all I can see is that it doesnt look the same at all.
            @gohan - I tried, and I thought that should work - but for some reason I could not get it to trigger the interupt on the atmega :(
            Looking the the voltage thresholds it was supposed to work but it didnt. I was thinking it was to low uA but i dont know really.

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            gohan
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            wrote on last edited by gohan
            #60

            @sundberg84

            Instead of the 10k resistor, do you think I could use a potentiometer to "adjust" sensitivity? I would like to avoid messing up the readings with lights entering when opening the cabinet door where the meter is located

            @flopp
            Do you mind sharing your wiring? 940nm, isn't it infrared?

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            • gohanG gohan

              @sundberg84

              Instead of the 10k resistor, do you think I could use a potentiometer to "adjust" sensitivity? I would like to avoid messing up the readings with lights entering when opening the cabinet door where the meter is located

              @flopp
              Do you mind sharing your wiring? 940nm, isn't it infrared?

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              sundberg84
              Hardware Contributor
              wrote on last edited by
              #61

              @gohan - a potentiometer is just a variable resistor so why not? Good idea if you have one laying around.
              As i said before though, the try with the transistor is just a try - im not that good with transistors yet and dont know how they work exactly. After this i read somewhere that the base resistor should be bigger to protect the transistor... dont know how to calculate that.

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              • gohanG gohan

                @sundberg84

                Instead of the 10k resistor, do you think I could use a potentiometer to "adjust" sensitivity? I would like to avoid messing up the readings with lights entering when opening the cabinet door where the meter is located

                @flopp
                Do you mind sharing your wiring? 940nm, isn't it infrared?

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                wrote on last edited by flopp
                #62

                @gohan said in 💬 Power Meter Pulse Sensor:

                @sundberg84

                @flopp
                Do you mind sharing your wiring? 940nm, isn't it infrared?

                I connected the photo resistor directly to the LM393.
                I don't know if that is IR.

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                • moumout31M Offline
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                  moumout31
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #63

                  Hello,

                  First, thanks for this tutorial !
                  I used the code defined in tutorial but I have the following message for "void receive(const MyMessage &message)" :

                  'MyMessage' does not name a type
                  

                  Do you know what can be the cause of this error please ?

                  Thanks in advance for your help

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                  • moumout31M moumout31

                    Hello,

                    First, thanks for this tutorial !
                    I used the code defined in tutorial but I have the following message for "void receive(const MyMessage &message)" :

                    'MyMessage' does not name a type
                    

                    Do you know what can be the cause of this error please ?

                    Thanks in advance for your help

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                    mfalkvidd
                    Mod
                    wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                    #64

                    @moumout31 do you have void receive(const MyMessage &message) somewhere in your code or where does it come from?
                    Could you post the full error message?

                    Have you installed the MySensors library?

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                    • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                      @moumout31 do you have void receive(const MyMessage &message) somewhere in your code or where does it come from?
                      Could you post the full error message?

                      Have you installed the MySensors library?

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                      wrote on last edited by moumout31
                      #65

                      @mfalkvidd void receive(const MyMessage &message) is in the code.
                      MySensors library is installed, I already use it in other nodes.
                      It's strange because it works in another computer...

                      The full error messages, in french beacause I'm french are :

                      Arduino : 1.8.0 (Windows 7), Carte : "Arduino Pro or Pro Mini, ATmega328 (3.3V, 8 MHz)"
                      
                      _02_Main_loop:271: error: 'MyMessage' does not name a type
                      
                      In file included from C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Documents\Arduino\libraries\arduino_759467/MySensors.h:257:0,
                      
                                       from C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Dropbox\Maison\A récupérer sur OneDrive\my_teleinfo_light\_02_Main_loop.ino:118:
                      
                      C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Documents\Arduino\libraries\arduino_759467/core/MyTransport.cpp: In function 'void transportProcessMessage()':
                      
                      C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Documents\Arduino\libraries\arduino_759467/core/MyTransport.cpp:745:14: error: cannot resolve overloaded function 'receive' based on conversion to type 'bool'
                      
                         if (receive) {
                      
                                    ^
                      
                      C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Documents\Arduino\libraries\arduino_759467/core/MyTransport.cpp:811:15: error: cannot resolve overloaded function 'receive' based on conversion to type 'bool'
                      
                          if (receive) {
                      
                                     ^
                      
                      exit status 1
                      'MyMessage' does not name a type
                      
                      Bibliothèque non valide trouvée dans C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Documents\Arduino\libraries\MySensors : C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Documents\Arduino\libraries\MySensors
                      
                      Ce rapport pourrait être plus détaillé avec
                      l'option "Afficher les résultats détaillés de la compilation"
                      activée dans Fichier -> Préférences.
                      

                      Thanks for your help

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                      • moumout31M moumout31

                        @mfalkvidd void receive(const MyMessage &message) is in the code.
                        MySensors library is installed, I already use it in other nodes.
                        It's strange because it works in another computer...

                        The full error messages, in french beacause I'm french are :

                        Arduino : 1.8.0 (Windows 7), Carte : "Arduino Pro or Pro Mini, ATmega328 (3.3V, 8 MHz)"
                        
                        _02_Main_loop:271: error: 'MyMessage' does not name a type
                        
                        In file included from C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Documents\Arduino\libraries\arduino_759467/MySensors.h:257:0,
                        
                                         from C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Dropbox\Maison\A récupérer sur OneDrive\my_teleinfo_light\_02_Main_loop.ino:118:
                        
                        C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Documents\Arduino\libraries\arduino_759467/core/MyTransport.cpp: In function 'void transportProcessMessage()':
                        
                        C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Documents\Arduino\libraries\arduino_759467/core/MyTransport.cpp:745:14: error: cannot resolve overloaded function 'receive' based on conversion to type 'bool'
                        
                           if (receive) {
                        
                                      ^
                        
                        C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Documents\Arduino\libraries\arduino_759467/core/MyTransport.cpp:811:15: error: cannot resolve overloaded function 'receive' based on conversion to type 'bool'
                        
                            if (receive) {
                        
                                       ^
                        
                        exit status 1
                        'MyMessage' does not name a type
                        
                        Bibliothèque non valide trouvée dans C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Documents\Arduino\libraries\MySensors : C:\Users\Anne-Laure\Documents\Arduino\libraries\MySensors
                        
                        Ce rapport pourrait être plus détaillé avec
                        l'option "Afficher les résultats détaillés de la compilation"
                        activée dans Fichier -> Préférences.
                        

                        Thanks for your help

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                        mfalkvidd
                        Mod
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #66

                        @moumout31 My guess is that MyMessage is defined in your sketch, overriding the definition in the MySensors library. Could you post your sketch?

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                        • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                          @moumout31 My guess is that MyMessage is defined in your sketch, overriding the definition in the MySensors library. Could you post your sketch?

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                          moumout31
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #67

                          @mfalkvidd It's strange... It works with an older version of Arduino software... Thus, the problem is solved ! Thanks

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                            moumout31
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #68

                            Hello,

                            I don't understand why, but my power meter sensor gives a higher index than the real power meter index after 2 days.
                            I think that it counts more pulses than pulses provided by the power meter...
                            Does anybody encounter this problem ?
                            Can it be cause to bounce for example ?

                            Thank you

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                            • moumout31M moumout31

                              Hello,

                              I don't understand why, but my power meter sensor gives a higher index than the real power meter index after 2 days.
                              I think that it counts more pulses than pulses provided by the power meter...
                              Does anybody encounter this problem ?
                              Can it be cause to bounce for example ?

                              Thank you

                              gohanG Offline
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                              gohan
                              Mod
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #69

                              @moumout31
                              could it be getting some light from another source?

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                              • moumout31M moumout31

                                Hello,

                                I don't understand why, but my power meter sensor gives a higher index than the real power meter index after 2 days.
                                I think that it counts more pulses than pulses provided by the power meter...
                                Does anybody encounter this problem ?
                                Can it be cause to bounce for example ?

                                Thank you

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                                flopp
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #70

                                @moumout31
                                I had same issue, check here for my solution
                                https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/4716/two-energy-meter/4

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                                • Fat FlyF Offline
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                                  Fat Fly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #71

                                  Hei.

                                  How to connect arduino to electricity meter pulse out. Not to led.

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                                  • gohanG gohan

                                    @moumout31
                                    could it be getting some light from another source?

                                    moumout31M Offline
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                                    moumout31
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #72

                                    @gohan No, the light is always switched off in this room and I tried, when I switch on the light, there is no pulse from the sensor.

                                    @flopp Thanks for your help. What I see in your topic is that you increase from 10000µs to 40000µs the interval to avoid corrupted interrupts, is that correct ?

                                    Thank you

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                                    • moumout31M moumout31

                                      @gohan No, the light is always switched off in this room and I tried, when I switch on the light, there is no pulse from the sensor.

                                      @flopp Thanks for your help. What I see in your topic is that you increase from 10000µs to 40000µs the interval to avoid corrupted interrupts, is that correct ?

                                      Thank you

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                                      flopp
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #73

                                      @moumout31
                                      Yes correct.
                                      When I checked with Serial Monitor and some serial.print in different places I could see that arduino registered double interrupts

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                                      • F flopp

                                        @moumout31
                                        Yes correct.
                                        When I checked with Serial Monitor and some serial.print in different places I could see that arduino registered double interrupts

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                                        moumout31
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #74

                                        @flopp Thanks a lot, I will try this solution and check if it's better !

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                                        • F flopp

                                          @moumout31
                                          Yes correct.
                                          When I checked with Serial Monitor and some serial.print in different places I could see that arduino registered double interrupts

                                          moumout31M Offline
                                          moumout31M Offline
                                          moumout31
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #75

                                          @flopp It seems to work, index on Domoticz is still consistent with the real index... I will see in a few days if it's still the case.
                                          Thanks a lot for your help !

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