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💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension

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  • alexsh1A Offline
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    #49

    @Koresh My 2032 died in 2 days and I noticed that power consumption is 3.5mA. OK, maybe bad soldering - I desoldered Si1132, but the consumption is still 0.14mA while sleeping. For 2032 this is a huge consumption. Did you measure consumption at all? I am using CW radio

    Si1132 must be consuming around < 500 nA standby current according to the datasheet. Not sure why consumption was increased with Si1132.

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    • alexsh1A alexsh1

      @Koresh My 2032 died in 2 days and I noticed that power consumption is 3.5mA. OK, maybe bad soldering - I desoldered Si1132, but the consumption is still 0.14mA while sleeping. For 2032 this is a huge consumption. Did you measure consumption at all? I am using CW radio

      Si1132 must be consuming around < 500 nA standby current according to the datasheet. Not sure why consumption was increased with Si1132.

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      Koresh
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      #50

      @alexsh1 Do not forget put BH1750 into sleep mode. Unfortunatelly standart library do not put the sensor into this mode. I described it on the github page.

        /*  Please comment out private declaration in BH1750.h 
         *   Otherwise you can't call lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN); and BH1750 will not sleep!
         *   
         *  //private:
         *   void write8(uint8_t data);
         */
         
        lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
      
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      • KoreshK Koresh

        @alexsh1 Do not forget put BH1750 into sleep mode. Unfortunatelly standart library do not put the sensor into this mode. I described it on the github page.

          /*  Please comment out private declaration in BH1750.h 
           *   Otherwise you can't call lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN); and BH1750 will not sleep!
           *   
           *  //private:
           *   void write8(uint8_t data);
           */
           
          lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
        
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        wrote on last edited by alexsh1
        #51

        @Koresh I did it on the first day I got the sensor. The consumption above is with BH1750 in the sleeping mode as per your github

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        • alexsh1A alexsh1

          @Koresh I did it on the first day I got the sensor. The consumption above is with BH1750 in the sleeping mode as per your github

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          yury
          wrote on last edited by
          #52

          @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

          it on the first day I got

          Could you post the code you use? and links for the libs. we will check tomorrow consumption with your code . mysensors 2.0 or 2.2?

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            @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

            it on the first day I got

            Could you post the code you use? and links for the libs. we will check tomorrow consumption with your code . mysensors 2.0 or 2.2?

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            #53

            @yury It is the latest bh1750 lib -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750

            I am using MySensors 2.2.0b

            I am using a default code :
            https://github.com/EasySensors/ButtonSizeNode/blob/master/ButtonSizeNode.ino

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            • alexsh1A alexsh1

              @yury It is the latest bh1750 lib -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750

              I am using MySensors 2.2.0b

              I am using a default code :
              https://github.com/EasySensors/ButtonSizeNode/blob/master/ButtonSizeNode.ino

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              wrote on last edited by alexsh1
              #54

              @yury One thing I did notice is this. To put BH1750 into a sleep mode (1uA consumption), it has to be called as follows:

              void setup()  {
              lightMeter.begin(BH1750_ONE_TIME_HIGH_RES_MODE);
              
              }
              

              After a one time measurement it goes to sleep automatically.
              Please see -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750/blob/master/examples/BH1750advanced/BH1750advanced.ino

              I have tried above, but still getting 0.14mA consumption in a sleep mode. Very odd!

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              • alexsh1A alexsh1

                @yury It is the latest bh1750 lib -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750

                I am using MySensors 2.2.0b

                I am using a default code :
                https://github.com/EasySensors/ButtonSizeNode/blob/master/ButtonSizeNode.ino

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                Koresh
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                #55

                @alexsh1 Very strange. I can't see a method write8 in current lib version (https://github.com/claws/BH1750). So I can't understand how is it possible to compile default code with this string

                lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
                

                I couldn't put this sensor into power down mode without this.

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                • alexsh1A alexsh1

                  @yury One thing I did notice is this. To put BH1750 into a sleep mode (1uA consumption), it has to be called as follows:

                  void setup()  {
                  lightMeter.begin(BH1750_ONE_TIME_HIGH_RES_MODE);
                  
                  }
                  

                  After a one time measurement it goes to sleep automatically.
                  Please see -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750/blob/master/examples/BH1750advanced/BH1750advanced.ino

                  I have tried above, but still getting 0.14mA consumption in a sleep mode. Very odd!

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                  Koresh
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                  #56

                  @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                  ...
                  After a one time measurement it goes to sleep automatically.
                  ...
                  I have tried above, but still getting 0.14mA consumption in a sleep mode. Very odd!

                  I've read the claws library briefly again. I'm a litte doubt that this code:

                  _delay_ms(10);
                  

                  is enough to ensure correctly timings and sensors work :)

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                  • KoreshK Koresh

                    @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                    ...
                    After a one time measurement it goes to sleep automatically.
                    ...
                    I have tried above, but still getting 0.14mA consumption in a sleep mode. Very odd!

                    I've read the claws library briefly again. I'm a litte doubt that this code:

                    _delay_ms(10);
                    

                    is enough to ensure correctly timings and sensors work :)

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                    alexsh1
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #57

                    @Koresh It does work, I have just test it, but there is a delay, i.e. the sensor is lagging one reading behind.

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                    • KoreshK Koresh

                      @alexsh1 Very strange. I can't see a method write8 in current lib version (https://github.com/claws/BH1750). So I can't understand how is it possible to compile default code with this string

                      lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
                      

                      I couldn't put this sensor into power down mode without this.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #58

                      @Koresh said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                      @alexsh1 Very strange. I can't see a method write8 in current lib version (https://github.com/claws/BH1750). So I can't understand how is it possible to compile default code with this string

                      lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
                      

                      I couldn't put this sensor into power down mode without this.

                      I tried it with the original (old) library -> https://github.com/mysensors/MySensorsArduinoExamples/tree/master/libraries/BH1750

                      I commended out "private" in bh1750.h
                      Consumption has not changed - 0.14mA

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                      • KoreshK Koresh

                        @alexsh1 Very strange. I can't see a method write8 in current lib version (https://github.com/claws/BH1750). So I can't understand how is it possible to compile default code with this string

                        lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
                        

                        I couldn't put this sensor into power down mode without this.

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                        #59

                        @Koresh One more observation. If I comment out:

                        //lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
                        

                        from the original sketch, the consumption goes up to 0.27mA.
                        So BH1750 is not a problem. Something else is eating up a few milliamps.

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                          #60

                          @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                          Something else is eating up a few milliamps

                          yes seems your board has bad capacitors. After rechecking many boards we found one eating a lot - 0.4 mA. Replacing caps fixed issue.

                          2_1499267230472_noLDO.jpg 1_1499267230472_LDO.jpg 0_1499267230471_gooodCap.jpg

                          can you check?

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                            @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                            Something else is eating up a few milliamps

                            yes seems your board has bad capacitors. After rechecking many boards we found one eating a lot - 0.4 mA. Replacing caps fixed issue.

                            2_1499267230472_noLDO.jpg 1_1499267230472_LDO.jpg 0_1499267230471_gooodCap.jpg

                            can you check?

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                            wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                            #61

                            @yury There are two yellow caps in your photo. Do I have to change both of them? What's nominal please?

                            EDIT: both are 107J SMD Tantalum

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                            • Y yury

                              @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                              Something else is eating up a few milliamps

                              yes seems your board has bad capacitors. After rechecking many boards we found one eating a lot - 0.4 mA. Replacing caps fixed issue.

                              2_1499267230472_noLDO.jpg 1_1499267230472_LDO.jpg 0_1499267230471_gooodCap.jpg

                              can you check?

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                              #62

                              @yury I was suspecting EEPROM (CS pin with pull-up resistor?) to be a culprit

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                                yury
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                                #63

                                combined capacitance of booth should be 100 --200 microfarads . It is input capacitors.
                                please try replacing them

                                re:
                                I was suspecting EEPROM (CS pin with pull-up resistor?) to be a culprit

                                not pullups...

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                                  yury
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                                  0.4 ma here with the bad cap
                                  0_1499269945983_viber image.jpeg

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                                  • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                    @yury I was suspecting EEPROM (CS pin with pull-up resistor?) to be a culprit

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                                    Koresh
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                                    @alexsh1 you can solder one or two capacitors ~50-200uf. But you should remove both because we do not know which of them is bad. Do not forget about polarity ;) Dot-key on the board means positive, so tantalum has positive key, but electrolitic capacitors has negative key.

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                                      @alexsh1 you can solder one or two capacitors ~50-200uf. But you should remove both because we do not know which of them is bad. Do not forget about polarity ;) Dot-key on the board means positive, so tantalum has positive key, but electrolitic capacitors has negative key.

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                                      #66

                                      @Koresh thanks. It does not matter which caps, right?
                                      I have a few 1206 100uF ceramic caps. They are not polarised and may be a good fit size wise

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                                      • Y yury

                                        combined capacitance of booth should be 100 --200 microfarads . It is input capacitors.
                                        please try replacing them

                                        re:
                                        I was suspecting EEPROM (CS pin with pull-up resistor?) to be a culprit

                                        not pullups...

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                                        #67

                                        @yury what's your estimate of battery life based on a new consumption of about 25uA and the default sketch?

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                                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                          @yury what's your estimate of battery life based on a new consumption of about 25uA and the default sketch?

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                                          @alexsh1 220 mAh(Duracell) / 0.025 (mA) = 8800 hrs = 366 days.

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