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💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension

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  • alexsh1A alexsh1

    @Koresh My 2032 died in 2 days and I noticed that power consumption is 3.5mA. OK, maybe bad soldering - I desoldered Si1132, but the consumption is still 0.14mA while sleeping. For 2032 this is a huge consumption. Did you measure consumption at all? I am using CW radio

    Si1132 must be consuming around < 500 nA standby current according to the datasheet. Not sure why consumption was increased with Si1132.

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    Koresh
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    #50

    @alexsh1 Do not forget put BH1750 into sleep mode. Unfortunatelly standart library do not put the sensor into this mode. I described it on the github page.

      /*  Please comment out private declaration in BH1750.h 
       *   Otherwise you can't call lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN); and BH1750 will not sleep!
       *   
       *  //private:
       *   void write8(uint8_t data);
       */
       
      lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
    
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    • KoreshK Koresh

      @alexsh1 Do not forget put BH1750 into sleep mode. Unfortunatelly standart library do not put the sensor into this mode. I described it on the github page.

        /*  Please comment out private declaration in BH1750.h 
         *   Otherwise you can't call lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN); and BH1750 will not sleep!
         *   
         *  //private:
         *   void write8(uint8_t data);
         */
         
        lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
      
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      #51

      @Koresh I did it on the first day I got the sensor. The consumption above is with BH1750 in the sleeping mode as per your github

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      • alexsh1A alexsh1

        @Koresh I did it on the first day I got the sensor. The consumption above is with BH1750 in the sleeping mode as per your github

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        #52

        @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

        it on the first day I got

        Could you post the code you use? and links for the libs. we will check tomorrow consumption with your code . mysensors 2.0 or 2.2?

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        • Y yury

          @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

          it on the first day I got

          Could you post the code you use? and links for the libs. we will check tomorrow consumption with your code . mysensors 2.0 or 2.2?

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          #53

          @yury It is the latest bh1750 lib -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750

          I am using MySensors 2.2.0b

          I am using a default code :
          https://github.com/EasySensors/ButtonSizeNode/blob/master/ButtonSizeNode.ino

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          • alexsh1A alexsh1

            @yury It is the latest bh1750 lib -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750

            I am using MySensors 2.2.0b

            I am using a default code :
            https://github.com/EasySensors/ButtonSizeNode/blob/master/ButtonSizeNode.ino

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            wrote on last edited by alexsh1
            #54

            @yury One thing I did notice is this. To put BH1750 into a sleep mode (1uA consumption), it has to be called as follows:

            void setup()  {
            lightMeter.begin(BH1750_ONE_TIME_HIGH_RES_MODE);
            
            }
            

            After a one time measurement it goes to sleep automatically.
            Please see -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750/blob/master/examples/BH1750advanced/BH1750advanced.ino

            I have tried above, but still getting 0.14mA consumption in a sleep mode. Very odd!

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            • alexsh1A alexsh1

              @yury It is the latest bh1750 lib -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750

              I am using MySensors 2.2.0b

              I am using a default code :
              https://github.com/EasySensors/ButtonSizeNode/blob/master/ButtonSizeNode.ino

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              @alexsh1 Very strange. I can't see a method write8 in current lib version (https://github.com/claws/BH1750). So I can't understand how is it possible to compile default code with this string

              lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
              

              I couldn't put this sensor into power down mode without this.

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              • alexsh1A alexsh1

                @yury One thing I did notice is this. To put BH1750 into a sleep mode (1uA consumption), it has to be called as follows:

                void setup()  {
                lightMeter.begin(BH1750_ONE_TIME_HIGH_RES_MODE);
                
                }
                

                After a one time measurement it goes to sleep automatically.
                Please see -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750/blob/master/examples/BH1750advanced/BH1750advanced.ino

                I have tried above, but still getting 0.14mA consumption in a sleep mode. Very odd!

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                wrote on last edited by Koresh
                #56

                @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                ...
                After a one time measurement it goes to sleep automatically.
                ...
                I have tried above, but still getting 0.14mA consumption in a sleep mode. Very odd!

                I've read the claws library briefly again. I'm a litte doubt that this code:

                _delay_ms(10);
                

                is enough to ensure correctly timings and sensors work :)

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                • KoreshK Koresh

                  @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                  ...
                  After a one time measurement it goes to sleep automatically.
                  ...
                  I have tried above, but still getting 0.14mA consumption in a sleep mode. Very odd!

                  I've read the claws library briefly again. I'm a litte doubt that this code:

                  _delay_ms(10);
                  

                  is enough to ensure correctly timings and sensors work :)

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                  #57

                  @Koresh It does work, I have just test it, but there is a delay, i.e. the sensor is lagging one reading behind.

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                  • KoreshK Koresh

                    @alexsh1 Very strange. I can't see a method write8 in current lib version (https://github.com/claws/BH1750). So I can't understand how is it possible to compile default code with this string

                    lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
                    

                    I couldn't put this sensor into power down mode without this.

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                    @Koresh said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                    @alexsh1 Very strange. I can't see a method write8 in current lib version (https://github.com/claws/BH1750). So I can't understand how is it possible to compile default code with this string

                    lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
                    

                    I couldn't put this sensor into power down mode without this.

                    I tried it with the original (old) library -> https://github.com/mysensors/MySensorsArduinoExamples/tree/master/libraries/BH1750

                    I commended out "private" in bh1750.h
                    Consumption has not changed - 0.14mA

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                    • KoreshK Koresh

                      @alexsh1 Very strange. I can't see a method write8 in current lib version (https://github.com/claws/BH1750). So I can't understand how is it possible to compile default code with this string

                      lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
                      

                      I couldn't put this sensor into power down mode without this.

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                      #59

                      @Koresh One more observation. If I comment out:

                      //lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
                      

                      from the original sketch, the consumption goes up to 0.27mA.
                      So BH1750 is not a problem. Something else is eating up a few milliamps.

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                        @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                        Something else is eating up a few milliamps

                        yes seems your board has bad capacitors. After rechecking many boards we found one eating a lot - 0.4 mA. Replacing caps fixed issue.

                        2_1499267230472_noLDO.jpg 1_1499267230472_LDO.jpg 0_1499267230471_gooodCap.jpg

                        can you check?

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                          @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                          Something else is eating up a few milliamps

                          yes seems your board has bad capacitors. After rechecking many boards we found one eating a lot - 0.4 mA. Replacing caps fixed issue.

                          2_1499267230472_noLDO.jpg 1_1499267230472_LDO.jpg 0_1499267230471_gooodCap.jpg

                          can you check?

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                          wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                          #61

                          @yury There are two yellow caps in your photo. Do I have to change both of them? What's nominal please?

                          EDIT: both are 107J SMD Tantalum

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                          • Y yury

                            @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                            Something else is eating up a few milliamps

                            yes seems your board has bad capacitors. After rechecking many boards we found one eating a lot - 0.4 mA. Replacing caps fixed issue.

                            2_1499267230472_noLDO.jpg 1_1499267230472_LDO.jpg 0_1499267230471_gooodCap.jpg

                            can you check?

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                            #62

                            @yury I was suspecting EEPROM (CS pin with pull-up resistor?) to be a culprit

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                              #63

                              combined capacitance of booth should be 100 --200 microfarads . It is input capacitors.
                              please try replacing them

                              re:
                              I was suspecting EEPROM (CS pin with pull-up resistor?) to be a culprit

                              not pullups...

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                                0.4 ma here with the bad cap
                                0_1499269945983_viber image.jpeg

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                                • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                  @yury I was suspecting EEPROM (CS pin with pull-up resistor?) to be a culprit

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                                  Koresh
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                                  @alexsh1 you can solder one or two capacitors ~50-200uf. But you should remove both because we do not know which of them is bad. Do not forget about polarity ;) Dot-key on the board means positive, so tantalum has positive key, but electrolitic capacitors has negative key.

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                                  • KoreshK Koresh

                                    @alexsh1 you can solder one or two capacitors ~50-200uf. But you should remove both because we do not know which of them is bad. Do not forget about polarity ;) Dot-key on the board means positive, so tantalum has positive key, but electrolitic capacitors has negative key.

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                                    #66

                                    @Koresh thanks. It does not matter which caps, right?
                                    I have a few 1206 100uF ceramic caps. They are not polarised and may be a good fit size wise

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                                      combined capacitance of booth should be 100 --200 microfarads . It is input capacitors.
                                      please try replacing them

                                      re:
                                      I was suspecting EEPROM (CS pin with pull-up resistor?) to be a culprit

                                      not pullups...

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #67

                                      @yury what's your estimate of battery life based on a new consumption of about 25uA and the default sketch?

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                                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                        @yury what's your estimate of battery life based on a new consumption of about 25uA and the default sketch?

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                                        #68

                                        @alexsh1 220 mAh(Duracell) / 0.025 (mA) = 8800 hrs = 366 days.

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                                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                          @Koresh thanks. It does not matter which caps, right?
                                          I have a few 1206 100uF ceramic caps. They are not polarised and may be a good fit size wise

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #69

                                          @alexsh1 There is no problem to use your capacitors. 1206imp = 3216metric (type A) so they are fit perfect :+1:
                                          About consumption... This is quite universal board. If you plan to use CR2032 battery it can be worth to omit LDO. You can do it using existing 0603 jumper footprint near right storage capacitor.

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