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💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension

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  • alexsh1A alexsh1

    @yury It is the latest bh1750 lib -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750

    I am using MySensors 2.2.0b

    I am using a default code :
    https://github.com/EasySensors/ButtonSizeNode/blob/master/ButtonSizeNode.ino

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    @yury One thing I did notice is this. To put BH1750 into a sleep mode (1uA consumption), it has to be called as follows:

    void setup()  {
    lightMeter.begin(BH1750_ONE_TIME_HIGH_RES_MODE);
    
    }
    

    After a one time measurement it goes to sleep automatically.
    Please see -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750/blob/master/examples/BH1750advanced/BH1750advanced.ino

    I have tried above, but still getting 0.14mA consumption in a sleep mode. Very odd!

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    • alexsh1A alexsh1

      @yury It is the latest bh1750 lib -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750

      I am using MySensors 2.2.0b

      I am using a default code :
      https://github.com/EasySensors/ButtonSizeNode/blob/master/ButtonSizeNode.ino

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      Koresh
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      @alexsh1 Very strange. I can't see a method write8 in current lib version (https://github.com/claws/BH1750). So I can't understand how is it possible to compile default code with this string

      lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
      

      I couldn't put this sensor into power down mode without this.

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      • alexsh1A alexsh1

        @yury One thing I did notice is this. To put BH1750 into a sleep mode (1uA consumption), it has to be called as follows:

        void setup()  {
        lightMeter.begin(BH1750_ONE_TIME_HIGH_RES_MODE);
        
        }
        

        After a one time measurement it goes to sleep automatically.
        Please see -> https://github.com/claws/BH1750/blob/master/examples/BH1750advanced/BH1750advanced.ino

        I have tried above, but still getting 0.14mA consumption in a sleep mode. Very odd!

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        Koresh
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        wrote on last edited by Koresh
        #56

        @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

        ...
        After a one time measurement it goes to sleep automatically.
        ...
        I have tried above, but still getting 0.14mA consumption in a sleep mode. Very odd!

        I've read the claws library briefly again. I'm a litte doubt that this code:

        _delay_ms(10);
        

        is enough to ensure correctly timings and sensors work :)

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        • KoreshK Koresh

          @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

          ...
          After a one time measurement it goes to sleep automatically.
          ...
          I have tried above, but still getting 0.14mA consumption in a sleep mode. Very odd!

          I've read the claws library briefly again. I'm a litte doubt that this code:

          _delay_ms(10);
          

          is enough to ensure correctly timings and sensors work :)

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          #57

          @Koresh It does work, I have just test it, but there is a delay, i.e. the sensor is lagging one reading behind.

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          • KoreshK Koresh

            @alexsh1 Very strange. I can't see a method write8 in current lib version (https://github.com/claws/BH1750). So I can't understand how is it possible to compile default code with this string

            lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
            

            I couldn't put this sensor into power down mode without this.

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            #58

            @Koresh said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

            @alexsh1 Very strange. I can't see a method write8 in current lib version (https://github.com/claws/BH1750). So I can't understand how is it possible to compile default code with this string

            lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
            

            I couldn't put this sensor into power down mode without this.

            I tried it with the original (old) library -> https://github.com/mysensors/MySensorsArduinoExamples/tree/master/libraries/BH1750

            I commended out "private" in bh1750.h
            Consumption has not changed - 0.14mA

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            • KoreshK Koresh

              @alexsh1 Very strange. I can't see a method write8 in current lib version (https://github.com/claws/BH1750). So I can't understand how is it possible to compile default code with this string

              lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
              

              I couldn't put this sensor into power down mode without this.

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              #59

              @Koresh One more observation. If I comment out:

              //lightMeter.write8(BH1750_POWER_DOWN);
              

              from the original sketch, the consumption goes up to 0.27mA.
              So BH1750 is not a problem. Something else is eating up a few milliamps.

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                @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                Something else is eating up a few milliamps

                yes seems your board has bad capacitors. After rechecking many boards we found one eating a lot - 0.4 mA. Replacing caps fixed issue.

                2_1499267230472_noLDO.jpg 1_1499267230472_LDO.jpg 0_1499267230471_gooodCap.jpg

                can you check?

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                • Y yury

                  @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                  Something else is eating up a few milliamps

                  yes seems your board has bad capacitors. After rechecking many boards we found one eating a lot - 0.4 mA. Replacing caps fixed issue.

                  2_1499267230472_noLDO.jpg 1_1499267230472_LDO.jpg 0_1499267230471_gooodCap.jpg

                  can you check?

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                  #61

                  @yury There are two yellow caps in your photo. Do I have to change both of them? What's nominal please?

                  EDIT: both are 107J SMD Tantalum

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                  • Y yury

                    @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                    Something else is eating up a few milliamps

                    yes seems your board has bad capacitors. After rechecking many boards we found one eating a lot - 0.4 mA. Replacing caps fixed issue.

                    2_1499267230472_noLDO.jpg 1_1499267230472_LDO.jpg 0_1499267230471_gooodCap.jpg

                    can you check?

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                    #62

                    @yury I was suspecting EEPROM (CS pin with pull-up resistor?) to be a culprit

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                      #63

                      combined capacitance of booth should be 100 --200 microfarads . It is input capacitors.
                      please try replacing them

                      re:
                      I was suspecting EEPROM (CS pin with pull-up resistor?) to be a culprit

                      not pullups...

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                        0.4 ma here with the bad cap
                        0_1499269945983_viber image.jpeg

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                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                          @yury I was suspecting EEPROM (CS pin with pull-up resistor?) to be a culprit

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                          Koresh
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                          @alexsh1 you can solder one or two capacitors ~50-200uf. But you should remove both because we do not know which of them is bad. Do not forget about polarity ;) Dot-key on the board means positive, so tantalum has positive key, but electrolitic capacitors has negative key.

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                          • KoreshK Koresh

                            @alexsh1 you can solder one or two capacitors ~50-200uf. But you should remove both because we do not know which of them is bad. Do not forget about polarity ;) Dot-key on the board means positive, so tantalum has positive key, but electrolitic capacitors has negative key.

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                            #66

                            @Koresh thanks. It does not matter which caps, right?
                            I have a few 1206 100uF ceramic caps. They are not polarised and may be a good fit size wise

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                            • Y yury

                              combined capacitance of booth should be 100 --200 microfarads . It is input capacitors.
                              please try replacing them

                              re:
                              I was suspecting EEPROM (CS pin with pull-up resistor?) to be a culprit

                              not pullups...

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                              #67

                              @yury what's your estimate of battery life based on a new consumption of about 25uA and the default sketch?

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                              • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                @yury what's your estimate of battery life based on a new consumption of about 25uA and the default sketch?

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                                @alexsh1 220 mAh(Duracell) / 0.025 (mA) = 8800 hrs = 366 days.

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                                  @Koresh thanks. It does not matter which caps, right?
                                  I have a few 1206 100uF ceramic caps. They are not polarised and may be a good fit size wise

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                                  Koresh
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                                  @alexsh1 There is no problem to use your capacitors. 1206imp = 3216metric (type A) so they are fit perfect :+1:
                                  About consumption... This is quite universal board. If you plan to use CR2032 battery it can be worth to omit LDO. You can do it using existing 0603 jumper footprint near right storage capacitor.

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                                  • Y yury

                                    @alexsh1 220 mAh(Duracell) / 0.025 (mA) = 8800 hrs = 366 days.

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                                    @yury said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                                    @alexsh1 220 mAh(Duracell) / 0.025 (mA) = 8800 hrs = 366 days.

                                    Not exactly - 25uA is a sleeping current.
                                    There will be sending periods every 10 mins.
                                    So I suppose the lifetime is less than a year

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                                    • KoreshK Koresh

                                      @alexsh1 There is no problem to use your capacitors. 1206imp = 3216metric (type A) so they are fit perfect :+1:
                                      About consumption... This is quite universal board. If you plan to use CR2032 battery it can be worth to omit LDO. You can do it using existing 0603 jumper footprint near right storage capacitor.

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                                      @Koresh yes, I'm using it with the 2032 battery.
                                      Which pads to your refer to please?

                                      0_1499287012713_IMG_5557.PNG

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                                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                        @yury said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                                        @alexsh1 220 mAh(Duracell) / 0.025 (mA) = 8800 hrs = 366 days.

                                        Not exactly - 25uA is a sleeping current.
                                        There will be sending periods every 10 mins.
                                        So I suppose the lifetime is less than a year

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                                        @alexsh1

                                        @alexsh1 said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                                        @yury said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                                        @alexsh1 220 mAh(Duracell) / 0.025 (mA) = 8800 hrs = 366 days.

                                        Not exactly - 25uA is a sleeping current.
                                        There will be sending periods every 10 mins.
                                        So I suppose the lifetime is less than a year

                                        Yes, it is sleeping time estimate. When it wakes up it compares first, like : if ( abs(d) > 50 ) send(msg_vis.set(VIS_LIGHT), true); so it might send or not.
                                        But this is just example sketch and you are very welcome to create pull-request or make suggestion how to improve.

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                                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                          @Koresh yes, I'm using it with the 2032 battery.
                                          Which pads to your refer to please?

                                          0_1499287012713_IMG_5557.PNG

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                                          Koresh
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                                          #73

                                          @alexsh1 You can fit juper (or any small wire, R10 on the schematic) or remove LDO at all and short top two pads.
                                          0_1499287544786_2017-07-05_23-41-54.png

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