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NRF24L01+PA+LNA distance problem

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  • F flopp

    @yd-kim
    Check that you have correct antenna.
    I was using female antenna and the nRF was also female which resulted in very bad connection.
    Nodes are not battery powered?

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    yd kim
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    #12

    @flopp
    At the first time I use default antenna but it was same issue so I bought exactly same long antenna. It make a little bit better but not perfect..
    I knew what you are talking about. It wasn't normal so a little bit expensive compare to normal wifi antenna.

    Thank for your concern.

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    • F flopp

      @yd-kim
      Check that you have correct antenna.
      I was using female antenna and the nRF was also female which resulted in very bad connection.
      Nodes are not battery powered?

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      yd kim
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      #13

      @flopp

      Whole system is Li-Ion battery powered system with solar.
      Gateway has 3S2P Li-Ion battery with proper solar panel. Battery voltage never go under 11V.
      Node has 1x18650 Li-Ion battery with small solar panel.
      Node goes sleep mode for 10 minutes then wake up and send data within 10 second.

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      • MiKaM MiKa

        Also check with RF scanner if its not a "jamming" from other RF device, or simply try to change channel to different one.

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        yd kim
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        #14

        @MiKa
        Device is installed in rural area. There is only one wifi. I don't think there is jamming or interference..
        I don't have RF scanner. If I couldn't find any other solution , probably I need to build RF scanner to check it..

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        • yd kimY yd kim

          @MiKa
          Device is installed in rural area. There is only one wifi. I don't think there is jamming or interference..
          I don't have RF scanner. If I couldn't find any other solution , probably I need to build RF scanner to check it..

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          Mod
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          @yd-kim https://www.mysensors.org/controller/sniffer might be an easy way if you want to scan.

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            fleinze
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            #16

            Sometimes we get shitty modules from china:
            https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1153/we-are-mostly-using-fake-nrf24l01-s-but-worse-fakes-are-emerging
            I made good experiance with these rather expensive ones:
            https://de.aliexpress.com/item/2pcs-RF2401F20-2-4G-high-integrated-RF-module-with-Nordic-s-RF-chip-nRF24L01-For-Free/32302870943.html
            But even with these I had to be very careful about antenna placement

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              MiKa
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              #17

              Another RF scanner with mini OLED 0.96 display
              https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2777178-Very-cheap-Arduino-based-2-4-GHz-band-monitor

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              • yd kimY yd kim

                @flopp

                Whole system is Li-Ion battery powered system with solar.
                Gateway has 3S2P Li-Ion battery with proper solar panel. Battery voltage never go under 11V.
                Node has 1x18650 Li-Ion battery with small solar panel.
                Node goes sleep mode for 10 minutes then wake up and send data within 10 second.

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                flopp
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                #18

                @yd-kim said:

                @flopp

                Whole system is Li-Ion battery powered system with solar.
                Gateway has 3S2P Li-Ion battery with proper solar panel. Battery voltage never go under 11V.
                Node has 1x18650 Li-Ion battery with small solar panel.
                Node goes sleep mode for 10 minutes then wake up and send data within 10 second.

                What kind of Arduino do you use?

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                • F flopp

                  @yd-kim said:

                  @flopp

                  Whole system is Li-Ion battery powered system with solar.
                  Gateway has 3S2P Li-Ion battery with proper solar panel. Battery voltage never go under 11V.
                  Node has 1x18650 Li-Ion battery with small solar panel.
                  Node goes sleep mode for 10 minutes then wake up and send data within 10 second.

                  What kind of Arduino do you use?

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                  yd kim
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                  #19

                  @flopp
                  Gateway : ESP8266 ( use 3A switching step down power module)
                  Node : Arduino pro mini 3V ( Arduino use battery power directly and nRF24L01 use 3.3V LDO 800mA one with 0.3V drop down )

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                    gloob
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                    Why don't you connect the NRF also directly to the battery?

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                    • G gloob

                      Why don't you connect the NRF also directly to the battery?

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                      yd kim
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                      #21

                      @gloob
                      nRF module should not use over 3.6V and Li-Ion battery is 4.2V when it is full charged.

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                        flopp
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                        #22

                        Quick fix may be to add resend if Failed.

                        See here

                        https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3355/count-car-starts/19

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                        • yd kimY yd kim

                          @gloob
                          nRF module should not use over 3.6V and Li-Ion battery is 4.2V when it is full charged.

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                          @yd-kim said:

                          @gloob
                          nRF module should not use over 3.6V and Li-Ion battery is 4.2V when it is full charged.

                          I thought you are also powering the Arduino directly from the battery over the 3.3V pin.

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                          • F fleinze

                            Sometimes we get shitty modules from china:
                            https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1153/we-are-mostly-using-fake-nrf24l01-s-but-worse-fakes-are-emerging
                            I made good experiance with these rather expensive ones:
                            https://de.aliexpress.com/item/2pcs-RF2401F20-2-4G-high-integrated-RF-module-with-Nordic-s-RF-chip-nRF24L01-For-Free/32302870943.html
                            But even with these I had to be very careful about antenna placement

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                            yd kim
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                            @fleinze

                            I keep reading the article.. interesting
                            The module which on the link is too expensive for my project;;

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                            • G gloob

                              @yd-kim said:

                              @gloob
                              nRF module should not use over 3.6V and Li-Ion battery is 4.2V when it is full charged.

                              I thought you are also powering the Arduino directly from the battery over the 3.3V pin.

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                              yd kim
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                              #25

                              @gloob
                              Arduino doesn't matter up to 5V so I don't mind for arduino.
                              If I feed same power to arduino, I need bigger LDO and also less efficiency.

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