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NRF24L01+PA+LNA distance problem

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  • MiKaM MiKa

    Also check with RF scanner if its not a "jamming" from other RF device, or simply try to change channel to different one.

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    yd kim
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    #14

    @MiKa
    Device is installed in rural area. There is only one wifi. I don't think there is jamming or interference..
    I don't have RF scanner. If I couldn't find any other solution , probably I need to build RF scanner to check it..

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    • yd kimY yd kim

      @MiKa
      Device is installed in rural area. There is only one wifi. I don't think there is jamming or interference..
      I don't have RF scanner. If I couldn't find any other solution , probably I need to build RF scanner to check it..

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      @yd-kim https://www.mysensors.org/controller/sniffer might be an easy way if you want to scan.

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        fleinze
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        Sometimes we get shitty modules from china:
        https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1153/we-are-mostly-using-fake-nrf24l01-s-but-worse-fakes-are-emerging
        I made good experiance with these rather expensive ones:
        https://de.aliexpress.com/item/2pcs-RF2401F20-2-4G-high-integrated-RF-module-with-Nordic-s-RF-chip-nRF24L01-For-Free/32302870943.html
        But even with these I had to be very careful about antenna placement

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          Another RF scanner with mini OLED 0.96 display
          https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2777178-Very-cheap-Arduino-based-2-4-GHz-band-monitor

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          • yd kimY yd kim

            @flopp

            Whole system is Li-Ion battery powered system with solar.
            Gateway has 3S2P Li-Ion battery with proper solar panel. Battery voltage never go under 11V.
            Node has 1x18650 Li-Ion battery with small solar panel.
            Node goes sleep mode for 10 minutes then wake up and send data within 10 second.

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            @yd-kim said:

            @flopp

            Whole system is Li-Ion battery powered system with solar.
            Gateway has 3S2P Li-Ion battery with proper solar panel. Battery voltage never go under 11V.
            Node has 1x18650 Li-Ion battery with small solar panel.
            Node goes sleep mode for 10 minutes then wake up and send data within 10 second.

            What kind of Arduino do you use?

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              @yd-kim said:

              @flopp

              Whole system is Li-Ion battery powered system with solar.
              Gateway has 3S2P Li-Ion battery with proper solar panel. Battery voltage never go under 11V.
              Node has 1x18650 Li-Ion battery with small solar panel.
              Node goes sleep mode for 10 minutes then wake up and send data within 10 second.

              What kind of Arduino do you use?

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              yd kim
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              #19

              @flopp
              Gateway : ESP8266 ( use 3A switching step down power module)
              Node : Arduino pro mini 3V ( Arduino use battery power directly and nRF24L01 use 3.3V LDO 800mA one with 0.3V drop down )

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                gloob
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                Why don't you connect the NRF also directly to the battery?

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                • G gloob

                  Why don't you connect the NRF also directly to the battery?

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                  @gloob
                  nRF module should not use over 3.6V and Li-Ion battery is 4.2V when it is full charged.

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                    flopp
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                    Quick fix may be to add resend if Failed.

                    See here

                    https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3355/count-car-starts/19

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                    • yd kimY yd kim

                      @gloob
                      nRF module should not use over 3.6V and Li-Ion battery is 4.2V when it is full charged.

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                      @yd-kim said:

                      @gloob
                      nRF module should not use over 3.6V and Li-Ion battery is 4.2V when it is full charged.

                      I thought you are also powering the Arduino directly from the battery over the 3.3V pin.

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                      • F fleinze

                        Sometimes we get shitty modules from china:
                        https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1153/we-are-mostly-using-fake-nrf24l01-s-but-worse-fakes-are-emerging
                        I made good experiance with these rather expensive ones:
                        https://de.aliexpress.com/item/2pcs-RF2401F20-2-4G-high-integrated-RF-module-with-Nordic-s-RF-chip-nRF24L01-For-Free/32302870943.html
                        But even with these I had to be very careful about antenna placement

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                        @fleinze

                        I keep reading the article.. interesting
                        The module which on the link is too expensive for my project;;

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                          @yd-kim said:

                          @gloob
                          nRF module should not use over 3.6V and Li-Ion battery is 4.2V when it is full charged.

                          I thought you are also powering the Arduino directly from the battery over the 3.3V pin.

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                          @gloob
                          Arduino doesn't matter up to 5V so I don't mind for arduino.
                          If I feed same power to arduino, I need bigger LDO and also less efficiency.

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