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💬 Livolo 3 buttons US/AU switch adapter

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  • A achurak1

    So how's the testing going? I'm thinking to try to have seeed to print and assemble the pcb for me as I hate to even think about soldering all of these smd parts manually :)

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    @achurak1 I have problems with the touch sensors, I'm redesigning the PCB now to improve sensibility.
    The good news is radio performance is great, not a single failure.

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      @Nca78 Awesome, thanks for the update!

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      • A achurak1

        So how's the testing going? I'm thinking to try to have seeed to print and assemble the pcb for me as I hate to even think about soldering all of these smd parts manually :)

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        Just finished the new version of the board, I'll check it again tomorrow and send it to Seeed to get the PCB.

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          Just finished the new version of the board, I'll check it again tomorrow and send it to Seeed to get the PCB.

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          @Nca78 - Great! Do you believe the new version has all of the issues fixed?

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            @Nca78 - Great! Do you believe the new version has all of the issues fixed?

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            @achurak1 said in 💬 Livolo 3 buttons US/AU switch adapter:

            @Nca78 - Great! Do you believe the new version has all of the issues fixed?

            Else I wouldn't say it's "finished" ;) (but be careful it's not online yet...)
            Did all items in the "todo list" on openhardware.io page, I just had a problem with the holes to put the plastic circles as I had too many wires going to the radio, so it won't be possible to use those from the Livolo switch. They are not absolutely necessary but I will make a 3D printed "separator" to block the light between the different switches.

            I also added more extra leds to the center button, there are 4 extra leds now in case you want to use center button for mode/scene selector.

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              @achurak1 said in 💬 Livolo 3 buttons US/AU switch adapter:

              @Nca78 - Great! Do you believe the new version has all of the issues fixed?

              Else I wouldn't say it's "finished" ;) (but be careful it's not online yet...)
              Did all items in the "todo list" on openhardware.io page, I just had a problem with the holes to put the plastic circles as I had too many wires going to the radio, so it won't be possible to use those from the Livolo switch. They are not absolutely necessary but I will make a 3D printed "separator" to block the light between the different switches.

              I also added more extra leds to the center button, there are 4 extra leds now in case you want to use center button for mode/scene selector.

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              @Nca78 - makes sense :) When are you going to upload the gerber files?

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                @Nca78 - makes sense :) When are you going to upload the gerber files?

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                @achurak1 said in 💬 Livolo 3 buttons US/AU switch adapter:

                @Nca78 - makes sense :) When are you going to upload the gerber files?

                When I can confirm all problems are solved :P
                Should not be too long I will send to Seeed tomorrow or Friday and use Fedex or DHL, their prototype PCB price is so insanely low now (4.9$ for up to 10*10cm) that from the 2nd PCB it's cheaper with them using DHL than with DirtyPCB :o

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                  I just posted new design files and gerber files (but please don't order now, I will receive PCBs only on Friday and then I need a few days before I can test them...

                  I also put a bit of documentation but it still needs (a lot of) improvements :)

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                    I just posted new design files and gerber files (but please don't order now, I will receive PCBs only on Friday and then I need a few days before I can test them...

                    I also put a bit of documentation but it still needs (a lot of) improvements :)

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                    @Nca78 - Thanks for the update! Looks like shipping takes a lot of time even with the DHL delivery. Will be waiting for you to test and give us green light to order the PCBs :)

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                      @Nca78 - Thanks for the update! Looks like shipping takes a lot of time even with the DHL delivery. Will be waiting for you to test and give us green light to order the PCBs :)

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                      @achurak1 said in 💬 Livolo 3 buttons US/AU switch adapter:

                      @Nca78 - Thanks for the update! Looks like shipping takes a lot of time even with the DHL delivery. Will be waiting for you to test and give us green light to order the PCBs :)

                      I took a lot of time to finish all my other PCBs before sending to Seeed.
                      Then they didn't like my panelized boards (they changed rules but didn't update their website) so I lost over a day to repost.
                      Then they packed the boards at the end of last week just in time to go on holidays and DHL picked them up only yesterday :(

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                        And now blocked at customs and I have to deal with the insane local DHL customer service again...
                        Last time I waste my money with DHL :angry:

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                          And now blocked at customs and I have to deal with the insane local DHL customer service again...
                          Last time I waste my money with DHL :angry:

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                          @Nca78 - I ordered my PCBs (not Livolo) around the same time you did using Hongkong post and they just arrived yesterday. Never had to deal with the customs...

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                            And now blocked at customs and I have to deal with the insane local DHL customer service again...
                            Last time I waste my money with DHL :angry:

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                            @Nca78

                            Oh man...I wanted things to come faster at my door like you did and in the end I had to pay 6 times!!! the price of the boards because of the customs, DHL fees and so on. But I learned from that and I'll NEVER EVER AGAIN go that way. That's just crazy.

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                              @mtiutiu, that's crazy.

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                                @Nca78

                                Oh man...I wanted things to come faster at my door like you did and in the end I had to pay 6 times!!! the price of the boards because of the customs, DHL fees and so on. But I learned from that and I'll NEVER EVER AGAIN go that way. That's just crazy.

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                                @mtiutiu said in 💬 Livolo 3 buttons US/AU switch adapter:

                                @Nca78

                                Oh man...I wanted things to come faster at my door like you did and in the end I had to pay 6 times!!! the price of the boards because of the customs, DHL fees and so on. But I learned from that and I'll NEVER EVER AGAIN go that way. That's just crazy.

                                I had many PCBs to order so it didn't reach those proportions: 39$ for PCBs, 30$ for shipping.
                                Then 8$ of DHL fee and 8$ of VAT.
                                That's too much shipment and customs fees for the time it took to get my order (over 2 weeks)

                                @achurak1 last time I ordered with HK Post and I had an endless wait without tracking, over 1 month, so I decided to never use it again.

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                                • A achurak1

                                  @Nca78 - makes sense :) When are you going to upload the gerber files?

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                                  @achurak1 said in 💬 Livolo 3 buttons US/AU switch adapter:

                                  @Nca78 - makes sense :) When are you going to upload the gerber files?

                                  Soldered a few components today, I will try to finish and start testing before the end of the week.
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                                    @achurak1 said in 💬 Livolo 3 buttons US/AU switch adapter:

                                    @Nca78 - makes sense :) When are you going to upload the gerber files?

                                    Soldered a few components today, I will try to finish and start testing before the end of the week.
                                    0_1497360785601_IMAG1748_1.jpg

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                                    @Nca78 - great! By the way, will I be able to use it with my dimmable switches (even if I lose the dimming functionality) or do I need the non-dimmable version?

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                                      @Nca78 - great! By the way, will I be able to use it with my dimmable switches (even if I lose the dimming functionality) or do I need the non-dimmable version?

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                                      @achurak1 said in 💬 Livolo 3 buttons US/AU switch adapter:

                                      switches

                                      I'm not sure it will work with dimmers. I bought a dimmer version to have a look and there's another MCU on the "main" board. So I will need to see how the communicate to implement that on a new version.
                                      I will make the test with the dimmer version anyway, and tell you.

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                                        @achurak1 said in 💬 Livolo 3 buttons US/AU switch adapter:

                                        switches

                                        I'm not sure it will work with dimmers. I bought a dimmer version to have a look and there's another MCU on the "main" board. So I will need to see how the communicate to implement that on a new version.
                                        I will make the test with the dimmer version anyway, and tell you.

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                                        @Nca78 - thanks! I can order the non-dimmable versions, but would prefer to avoid this if possible.
                                        Is it necessary to use EIA3216 package for the tantalum capacitors or is it just something you've had handy and can be replaced with any other package (e.g. 0805 or 1206)?

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                                          I used this size to have some margin to put big tantalum capacitor if necessary. But you can use smaller size and ceramic capacitors.
                                          The only two that are mandatory are the radio and the input caps, other are just reserve capacitors to help the power supply. Not sure they are really necessary with nrf24 buy it would be a bit stupid to save 0.x$ and risk having an unstable board.

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