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  • scalzS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by scalz
    #9

    @gohan
    This ST32 board doesn't have any usb chip, and doesn't need one, because the mcu already includes this feature.

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    • alowhumA Offline
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      #10

      This board just keeps getting better and better.

      Is there a way to try out this new functionality? I coincidentally could really use a 3.3 volt Arduino with micro-USB port.

      I don't like that the Pro Mini doesn't have a micro usb port for powering it. The Digispark Pro does have it, but I don't know if MySensors supports it. More importantly, it's twice as expensive.

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      • alowhumA alowhum

        This board just keeps getting better and better.

        Is there a way to try out this new functionality? I coincidentally could really use a 3.3 volt Arduino with micro-USB port.

        I don't like that the Pro Mini doesn't have a micro usb port for powering it. The Digispark Pro does have it, but I don't know if MySensors supports it. More importantly, it's twice as expensive.

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        wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
        #11

        @alowhum a bit off topic, but I've bought a few micro usb connectors to be able to use the ubiquitous phone chargers to power Pro Minis.

        To try out the new functionality, order a few STM32. Then use the master MySensors branch from github. https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/pull/795 will probably have been merged by the time your boards arrive :) If they haven't you can use tekka's branch.

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        • scalzS Offline
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          wrote on last edited by scalz
          #12

          Also, little sidenote, it's low power mcu i think, maybe not pico like 328p. And i don't know about the mysensors sleep functions (not implemented yet i think).
          But that said, it's a nice competitive alternative, like others ARM mcus which are very versatile :yum: (a bit more advanced than simple 8bit 328p) .

          Big thx to @tekka for his work on this nice addition, you rock :+1:

          Digispark pro may run mysensors, for very simple, no big memory task as it's using a smaller mcu than 328p for instance (i don't remember if attiny85 implementation has already been released).

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          • scalzS scalz

            Also, little sidenote, it's low power mcu i think, maybe not pico like 328p. And i don't know about the mysensors sleep functions (not implemented yet i think).
            But that said, it's a nice competitive alternative, like others ARM mcus which are very versatile :yum: (a bit more advanced than simple 8bit 328p) .

            Big thx to @tekka for his work on this nice addition, you rock :+1:

            Digispark pro may run mysensors, for very simple, no big memory task as it's using a smaller mcu than 328p for instance (i don't remember if attiny85 implementation has already been released).

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            wrote on last edited by alowhum
            #13

            Cool! I'll try that with the one I have already. In my sketches I try to make a non-sleep option, so the lack of sleep should not be a problem. Heh, funny sentence.

            Will I also need to install the STM32 library?

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              wrote on last edited by scalz
              #14

              @alowhum
              this is starting to be a problem for me..the lack of sleep :smile:

              yes, i think you need to follow the howto you linked (for installing the core files)

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              • gohanG gohan

                but for a battery powered sleeping node it is better a mini pro that hasn't the usb chip that drains power, right?

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                wrote on last edited by VaZso
                #15

                @gohan Regarding of battery powered system...

                From STM32CubeMX power consumption calculator, it has the following current requirements:

                In RUN mode:

                • at 72MHz bus frequency, it needs 27 mA
                • at 16MHz and HSI PLL, it needs 6.8 mA
                • at 8 MHz and HSI, it needs 4 mA
                • at 1 MHz and HSI, it needs 900 μA
                • at 125 kHz and HSI, it needs 480 μA

                In STANDBY mode with all clocks off, it needs 2 μA


                In SLEEP mode:

                • at 125 kHz bus frequency and HSI, it needs 410 μA
                • at 1 MHz bus freq. and HSI, it needs 440 uA
                • at 8 MHz, it needs 600 μA

                Enabling the following peripherals, additional consumptions are (as for example):

                • GPIOA needs 833.75 nA
                • GPIOD needs 816.25 nA
                • I2C needs 1.25 μA
                • SPI1 needs 590 nA
                • TIMER1 needs 2.92 μA
                • TIMER2 needs 4.06 μA
                • TIMER4 needs 3.99 μA
                • USART1 needs 1.49 μA
                • USART3 needs 1.53 μA
                • USB needs 2.22 μA
                • Window watchdog needs 312.5 nA
                • Independent watchdog needs 1.71 μA
                • ADC1 needs 162.19 μA

                These are just some examples, not all possibilities and frequencies are listed here...

                There are also lower power STM32 series anyway.

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                • gohanG Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #16

                  I'm curious because I saw these boards few months ago but I figured that community support was still in the early stages so I kind of didn't pay much attention to them and I preferred old but tested technology 😁

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                  • alowhumA Offline
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                    #17

                    The patch has just been added to the Mysensors Development branch, so it's easier to try out.

                    I've created a guide on how to get started on the SMT32Duino forum.

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                    • alowhumA Offline
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                      #18

                      Heh, the STM32 doesn't have a digital pin 2 it seems. Where is the NRF supposed to connect to instead?

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                      • alowhumA alowhum

                        Heh, the STM32 doesn't have a digital pin 2 it seems. Where is the NRF supposed to connect to instead?

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                        #19

                        @alowhum looks like PA3: https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/pull/795/commits/ac432acca3d7c58eb7c8f569dc562860605ea09f#diff-58c572256858a37808c4ebd0922b4060R50

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                          wrote on last edited by alowhum
                          #20

                          That's odd. I thought I had it just figured out. I'm about to test this at the top of a sketch:

                          #define MY_RF24_CE_PIN PB0
                          #define MY_RF24_CS_PIN PA4
                          #define MY_RF24_MOSI_PIN PA7
                          #define MY_RF24_MISO_PIN PA6
                          #define MY_RF24_SCK_PIN PA5
                          #define MY_RF24_IRQ_PIN PB10

                          The fun thing is all the pins are almost in a row. Almost. And if the IRQ is A3, then one more pin would line up..

                          According to this image the IRQ is pin PB10 though:
                          http://wiki.stm32duino.com/images/a/ae/Bluepillpinout.gif

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                          • alowhumA alowhum

                            That's odd. I thought I had it just figured out. I'm about to test this at the top of a sketch:

                            #define MY_RF24_CE_PIN PB0
                            #define MY_RF24_CS_PIN PA4
                            #define MY_RF24_MOSI_PIN PA7
                            #define MY_RF24_MISO_PIN PA6
                            #define MY_RF24_SCK_PIN PA5
                            #define MY_RF24_IRQ_PIN PB10

                            The fun thing is all the pins are almost in a row. Almost. And if the IRQ is A3, then one more pin would line up..

                            According to this image the IRQ is pin PB10 though:
                            http://wiki.stm32duino.com/images/a/ae/Bluepillpinout.gif

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #21

                            @alowhum sorry I misread your question. Don't know why, but I didn't see that you were talking about the NRF.

                            IRQ is not used for the NRF on Arduino, so I supposed it is not used for STM32 either. There is nothing about IRQ in https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/pull/795/commits/ac432acca3d7c58eb7c8f569dc562860605ea09f#diff-cf14b6301beb3a4dbaded9b95bb190feR487

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #22

                              Really? On the Arduino nano I'm always connecting it to pin 2. It says to do so in the guide?

                              Anyway, I haven't been able to get it to work. Perhaps some of the developers van shed some light on how it's supposed to work?

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #23

                                @alowhum

                                Its first in recent (develop branch?) that interrupt usage with nRF24L01 have been enabled, and only in certain scenarios.

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                                • alowhumA alowhum

                                  Really? On the Arduino nano I'm always connecting it to pin 2. It says to do so in the guide?

                                  Anyway, I haven't been able to get it to work. Perhaps some of the developers van shed some light on how it's supposed to work?

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                                  wrote on last edited by tekka
                                  #24

                                  @alowhum The MySensors RF24 driver is a polling driver (unless RX queuing is enabled), hence no IRQ required.

                                  I've successfully tested the RF24 radio with this wiring on a BluePill board using MySensors 2.2.0-beta:

                                  CLK -> PA5
                                  MISO -> PA6
                                  MOSI ->PA7
                                  CSN -> PA4
                                  CE -> PB0

                                  do not forget to set:

                                  #define MY_RF24_CE_PIN PB0
                                  
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                                    wrote on last edited by alowhum
                                    #25

                                    Hmm, that's pretty much what I had.

                                    Could you perhaps share your example sketch?

                                    // It's working now! Turns out I had to set the radio to low power..

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                                    • alowhumA alowhum

                                      Really? On the Arduino nano I'm always connecting it to pin 2. It says to do so in the guide?

                                      Anyway, I haven't been able to get it to work. Perhaps some of the developers van shed some light on how it's supposed to work?

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #26

                                      @alowhum said in STM32?:

                                      Really? On the Arduino nano I'm always connecting it to pin 2. It says to do so in the guide?

                                      Well the guide also says "The IRQ is currently not used by the MySensors library so it can be left un-connected."

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                                      • alowhumA alowhum

                                        Hmm, that's pretty much what I had.

                                        Could you perhaps share your example sketch?

                                        // It's working now! Turns out I had to set the radio to low power..

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #27

                                        @alowhum Perfect!

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                                          #28

                                          FYI, I didn't check the work done by tekka, but I didn't file a pull request for my 'sleep' code. I have support for using low power mode (reduce current from ~40mA to 4mA during sleep) but I had issues with reliable wakeup, so I've just switched my code to all using delay loops.

                                          Initially I was using these boards for my sensors, but there is very little benefit compared to a 3.,3V pro-mini for my usage cases, and the power is 10x more when running (and 100x more when idle without my sleep patches that don't work)

                                          I don't have any sensors that need the extra horsepower of the STM32 personally. The one benefit I did realize is having a USB serial port which removes the need for USB->TTL.

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