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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB (RFM69 HW/W edition) for MySensors

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  • openhardware.ioO Offline
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    wrote on last edited by openhardware.io
    #1

    https://www.openhardware.io/view/389/EasyNewbie-PCB-RFM69-HWW-edition-for-MySensors

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    • gohanG Offline
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      :thumbsup: Finally! :D

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      • martinhjelmareM Offline
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        How's the compatability 5 V arduino and RFM69 achieved? As I understand the RFM69 inputs are not 5 V tolerable.

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        • gohanG Offline
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          You need to use 3,3v mini pro, this pcb is more for battery powered nodes

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          • sundberg84S Offline
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            #5

            Correct - 3.3v only - im redesigning the PCB for this.

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              #6

              Ok, so it was just a copy-paste leftover in the feature description from the nrf version.

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              • martinhjelmareM martinhjelmare

                Ok, so it was just a copy-paste leftover in the feature description from the nrf version.

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                #7

                @martinhjelmare - It wasnt meant to make the project visible but I did unfortunately. I will correct as soon as possible
                I dont think its going to be that newbie friendly with a level converter for 5v so Im going to propose a 3.3v Pro mini only. Then I might add a voltage regulator with 5 and 3.3v in.

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                  #8

                  Well, since I posted the thread without it was finished (not usually my way of working) I can keep you updated on the work i guess... get input on the way.

                  New schematics made... not final! Not implemented any booster yet.
                  0_1494430456876_Sch_beta.JPG

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                    #9

                    @gohan - looking better on that SMA connector...
                    0_1494441088218_Ant.JPG

                    Anyone knows if its possible to have a SMA and Hole for DIY antenna on the same PCB like this?

                    Edit:
                    Well, so far tonight... a couple of hours work and im happy :) some small stuff to fix before production.
                    0_1494445821526_SoFar.JPG

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                    • fisherF Offline
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                      Looking forward to buy this board. Thanks for including SMA connector. Now it's complete board for me :-)

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                        #11

                        OK - beta release.

                        I have updated the description, bom, gerber files and kicad files on openhardware.io.
                        I have placed an order for fast delivery on pcbway.com but it will take some time before my RFM69 radios reach me from china-land. So I won't be able to test it for some time.

                        IF you are curoius (and willing to debug and cut / resolder if there are errors) feel free to download the gerbers and place an order. I cant promise its 100% (or work as intended) and because of that I wont add them for sale on openhardware.io yet.

                        0_1494528446674_3D.JPG

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                        • sundberg84S sundberg84

                          @gohan - looking better on that SMA connector...
                          0_1494441088218_Ant.JPG

                          Anyone knows if its possible to have a SMA and Hole for DIY antenna on the same PCB like this?

                          Edit:
                          Well, so far tonight... a couple of hours work and im happy :) some small stuff to fix before production.
                          0_1494445821526_SoFar.JPG

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                          @sundberg84 I did this in my take of a SMA with a wire Antenna option:
                          0_1494632694334_upload-ce399877-38ed-4251-924d-a293c9df13fb , you can see more details here https://www.openhardware.io/view/388/RFM69HW-Arduino-Mini-Pro-Shield.
                          Haven't tried with the wire antenna trough.

                          Domoticz, mysensors 2.3.1, RFM69 and RF24 sensors

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                            Actually it seems a good solution to have the hole on the sma pad

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                            • J jlaraujo

                              @sundberg84 I did this in my take of a SMA with a wire Antenna option:
                              0_1494632694334_upload-ce399877-38ed-4251-924d-a293c9df13fb , you can see more details here https://www.openhardware.io/view/388/RFM69HW-Arduino-Mini-Pro-Shield.
                              Haven't tried with the wire antenna trough.

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                              @jlaraujo , @gohan - I does look really good and effective!
                              Would be great if you could test it! At the moment I have placed my order so I cant change it for this run, but out of experience there will be other stuff I want to change.

                              Thank you for input! I greatly appreciate it!

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                                  So, this temporary GW is now connected to Domoticz and running at 34800 baud rate (had some problems to figure this out...) I have one (fake) node connected but still have some range issues to sort out. Most likley because of the DIY antenna...

                                  0_1497989310348_1.JPG

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                                    I now have a gw and node working together on 3.3v and 433mhz (not HW version). I would say its quite safe to order the PCB if someone wants to try it out.

                                    Note to myself and others... the RFM69 is really sensitive to high power. I fried one because I tried it on a Nano which i think is using 5v on its gpio. I was just thinking... hmm 3.3v - nano got one of those!

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                                      And now I also have a batterynode working... Power consumtion will come later... it works atleast :)
                                      Someone that can guess what kind of power consumtion this setup would be (removing LED / regulator)?

                                      0_1498418704326_battery.jpg0_1498419175750_1.JPG

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                                        I now have a gw and node working together on 3.3v and 433mhz (not HW version). I would say its quite safe to order the PCB if someone wants to try it out.

                                        Note to myself and others... the RFM69 is really sensitive to high power. I fried one because I tried it on a Nano which i think is using 5v on its gpio. I was just thinking... hmm 3.3v - nano got one of those!

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                                        @sundberg84 said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB (RFM69 HW/W edition) for MySensors:

                                        I now have a gw and node working together on 3.3v and 433mhz (not HW version). I would say its quite safe to order the PCB if someone wants to try it out.

                                        Note to myself and others... the RFM69 is really sensitive to high power. I fried one because I tried it on a Nano which i think is using 5v on its gpio. I was just thinking... hmm 3.3v - nano got one of those!

                                        It's in datasheet that it is not 5v tolerant and absolute max voltage it's like 3.6v

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                                        • gohanG gohan

                                          @sundberg84 said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB (RFM69 HW/W edition) for MySensors:

                                          I now have a gw and node working together on 3.3v and 433mhz (not HW version). I would say its quite safe to order the PCB if someone wants to try it out.

                                          Note to myself and others... the RFM69 is really sensitive to high power. I fried one because I tried it on a Nano which i think is using 5v on its gpio. I was just thinking... hmm 3.3v - nano got one of those!

                                          It's in datasheet that it is not 5v tolerant and absolute max voltage it's like 3.6v

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                                          @gohan - I was fooled by that the Nano got a 3.3v output... stupid.

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