Using a sensor to sense the presence of copper wire.
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Newbie here, attempting to create a fixture that will use a sensor, that will signal when there is the presence of copper wire.
The wire inserted into the area of the sensor will vary from:
36 ga. - 5 ga. Magnet wire
24 ga. - 10 ga. Stranded wire with the insulation removed.Any idea which direction I should go for a sensor?
Thank you, Jay
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Newbie here, attempting to create a fixture that will use a sensor, that will signal when there is the presence of copper wire.
The wire inserted into the area of the sensor will vary from:
36 ga. - 5 ga. Magnet wire
24 ga. - 10 ga. Stranded wire with the insulation removed.Any idea which direction I should go for a sensor?
Thank you, Jay
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It's an enclosure with a hole where the wire will be inserted into. The wire will be detected by a sensor, signal making it's way to a solenoid that will activate a pneumatic cylinder that will extend and clamp the wire in place....making contact.
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If you need a precise measurement you could use a laser diode and its sensor, the when the wire is inserted at a certain length it will block the laser and you know something is there to be grabbed. Otherwise some magnetic sensor that detect a change in magnetic field, but it is all down to the accuracy you need
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Other than the accuracy of being able to detect the wide range of wire, this can be rather crude. No accuracy needed with the depth of the wire being inserted through the hole in the enclosure.
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If you need a precise measurement you could use a laser diode and its sensor, the when the wire is inserted at a certain length it will block the laser and you know something is there to be grabbed. Otherwise some magnetic sensor that detect a change in magnetic field, but it is all down to the accuracy you need
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Bare copper should reflect light. What about sending off ir light (with some dampening material on opposite the other side). And a shielded ir sensor next to the sender to detect the reflected light?
You could perhaps try with one of these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5X-IR-Infrared-Obstacle-Avoidance-Sensor-Module-Detect-Distance-for-Arduino-DIY/142649289652?hash=item21368f6bb4:g:nAQAAOSw-4RaUyOd -
@mfalkvidd I know but it should interfere with an electromagnetic field, right?
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The smallest wire to be detected is only .005" in diameter (.13mm). I think this will be tricky using a reflective type sensor. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I have very little knowledge in this field.
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The smallest wire to be detected is only .005" in diameter (.13mm). I think this will be tricky using a reflective type sensor. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I have very little knowledge in this field.
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No....not at all. Just insert the wire, creating a signal, activating the cylinder, clamping the "bare" wire.
The wire will then be sandwiched between the shaft of the cylinder. and an aluminum contact....which will carry the very small current of the wire.
The wire will be inserted through a hole on the top of the enclosure, travel down past the aluminum contact (and cylinder), then just below will be a sensor.
I'm unfamiliar with the "small IR frame like those used to make touch surfaces".
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Capacitive switch sensor like the AT42QT1011 maybe?
Something along the lines of https://www.sparkfun.com/products/14520
Only thing I'm not sure of is whether the copper wire would trigger the capacitive sensor, although if its being inserted by hand then it should have a charge from your own bodies natural charge as well possibly? Or if it is being fed a charge by something else that is touching it, then it might be enough.
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The wire(s) will be inserted by hand, but only the first inch of the wire is bare/striped. The remaining length of wire will still have its insulation. Sadly, the operator cannot be a part of the circuitry. LOL
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The maximum distance needed to detect is 6mm from the sensor. Or if the sensor is the type where breaking a beam is used, it will need to be able to break the beam with wire as small as described above.
@moparjay said in Using a sensor to sense the presence of copper wire.:
The maximum distance needed to detect is 6mm from the sensor. Or if the sensor is the type where breaking a beam is used, it will need to be able to break the beam with wire as small as described above.
There are also time of flight sensors, they use a laser and measure duration for some light to come back after a small "flash" of a laser led.
I am not sure at all it can detect at such a short distance and if reflexion would be strong enough on your smaller wires, but it's worth a look at the data sheet. They don't need laser beam to be broken and they don't measure the quantity of light that is reflected so in theory it can work.
Long distance version (up to 2m, not suitable for you) is vl53l0x by ST, search for it and you should find the version for short distances on their website. And there are probably other chips from competitors as well. -
@mfalkvidd A copper wire should most certainly disturb a magnetic field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ysbWjd5OPE
