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  • S Slorf

    Looks like what I have been looking for !

    Any progress on the gerber files ? ( so I can order pcb's )

    I was looking through the list of materials, but getting confusion while looking on Aliexpress, is it possible to share the links to the parts on Aliexpress/eBay ?

    Thanks !

    Alex

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    Koresh
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    @Slorf Sorry for delay. I've uploaded gerber files (100% correct - first batch was produced according to them).
    I ordered 0402 components in these shops:
    http://www.aliexpress.com/store/1171142
    http://www.aliexpress.com/store/821060

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      Sorry, i am confused :-(

      How do i recognize the 4.7uf polarised capacitor ?

      Thanks !!

      Alex

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      • S Slorf

        Sorry, i am confused :-(

        How do i recognize the 4.7uf polarised capacitor ?

        Thanks !!

        Alex

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        @Slorf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro- :smiley:

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          This would be the first pcb's i order, how do i know which component goes where on the pcb ?

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            Slorf
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            @Koresh

            How do i know it;s a polarized version ?

            There are these ( which i think are the wrong ones )
            http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-0805-SMD-capacitor-4-7uf-50V-475Z-100PCS/32376068362.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.40.rvV9hM&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201644_4_505_506_503_504_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201560_2,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6452&btsid=833ff5df-930f-4fd8-8530-cb280a1b9c7f

            and there are these:

            http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-100pcs-lot-475K-X7R-25V-0805-4-7UF-SMD-capacitor-Chip-Capacitor-Electronic-Components/32607720756.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.207.rx4LMW&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201644_4_505_506_503_504_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201560_2,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6452&btsid=0572ec4f-a6b5-44fb-aa59-70649256d584

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            • S Slorf

              @Koresh

              How do i know it;s a polarized version ?

              There are these ( which i think are the wrong ones )
              http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-0805-SMD-capacitor-4-7uf-50V-475Z-100PCS/32376068362.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.40.rvV9hM&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201644_4_505_506_503_504_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201560_2,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6452&btsid=833ff5df-930f-4fd8-8530-cb280a1b9c7f

              and there are these:

              http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-100pcs-lot-475K-X7R-25V-0805-4-7UF-SMD-capacitor-Chip-Capacitor-Electronic-Components/32607720756.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.207.rx4LMW&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201644_4_505_506_503_504_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201560_2,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6452&btsid=0572ec4f-a6b5-44fb-aa59-70649256d584

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              @Slorf OK. Use non-polarized (ceramic) capacitor 0805 4.7uF and polarized 10uf (yellow 3216) capacitor. I've changed bom.
              I've uploaded assembly pdf too :).

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                Slorf
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                @Koresh

                Thanks, i found everything on Aliexpress, except:

                Push Button SPDT
                Resistor 1M ( which package size )

                Alex

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                • S Slorf

                  @Koresh

                  Thanks, i found everything on Aliexpress, except:

                  Push Button SPDT
                  Resistor 1M ( which package size )

                  Alex

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                  @Slorf
                  Resistor 1M ( which package size ) - unnecessary element (R1 can be mounted for backward compatibility with nRF24L01, nevermind)
                  Push Button - use any buttons like these http://ru.aliexpress.com/item/10-Pcs-x-Sealed-SMD-Momentary-Tact-Tactile-Push-Button-Switch-3mm-x-6mm-x-2/32600602500.html?spm=2114.30010708.3.10.QkNxnX&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_6,searchweb201644_3_505_506_503_504_301_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10006_10011_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10007_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201560_3,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6451&btsid=efafd213-4a02-41ac-8d40-b5e9982a58f1 :wink:

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                    @Koresh

                    Thanks

                    Will search and find the cheapest offers on Aliexpress :-)

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                      @Koresh

                      Hi,

                      When I try and order the pcb's from dirtypcb I get the following error:

                      PCB #17568: No board outline (.GML/.GKO/.GBR) file found.

                      I made a zip file with cam.drl, main.gbl, main.gbo, main.gbs, main.gtl, main.gto, main.gts
                      when I try to upload this on dirtypcb I get the error message that there is no board outline.

                      regards

                      Alex

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                      • S Slorf

                        @Koresh

                        Hi,

                        When I try and order the pcb's from dirtypcb I get the following error:

                        PCB #17568: No board outline (.GML/.GKO/.GBR) file found.

                        I made a zip file with cam.drl, main.gbl, main.gbo, main.gbs, main.gtl, main.gto, main.gts
                        when I try to upload this on dirtypcb I get the error message that there is no board outline.

                        regards

                        Alex

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                        @Slorf It's openhardware.io engine problem. Engine had removed some files from my zip. Use files from this complete archive (gm2 - mechanical layer, rename it if its nessesary).
                        0_1456686721977_nrf_17_01_fabr.zip

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                          @Koresh

                          .gm2 was a new extension I didn't know about.
                          I've updated the file extraction engine. When you get a chance, please try uploading it again.

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                            @Koresh

                            .gm2 was a new extension I didn't know about.
                            I've updated the file extraction engine. When you get a chance, please try uploading it again.

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                            @hek
                            Thanks for quick fix :)
                            gm2 = gerber mechanic layer2. So there are many variations of file extensions. I think it would be perfect to add ability to attach a file with custom extension or raw zip\rar without extraction.

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                              #34

                              @Koresh

                              I renamed the gm2 file to gml ( see: http://jrainimo.com/build/?p=642 ), and was able to order it from dirtypcb.

                              Alex

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                              • S Slorf

                                @Koresh

                                I renamed the gm2 file to gml ( see: http://jrainimo.com/build/?p=642 ), and was able to order it from dirtypcb.

                                Alex

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                                #35

                                @Slorf One detail.... If it is not so late - please change your order (sorry...). Board thikness must be 1.6mm (antenna tunned for this value). I've changed board description.

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #36

                                  @Koresh

                                  I mailed the people at dirtypcb, hopefully they can change it for me.

                                  If they cannot change it, would it be possible to get rid of the antenna and mount a pa/lna antenna ?

                                  Regards

                                  Alex

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                                  • S Slorf

                                    @Koresh

                                    I mailed the people at dirtypcb, hopefully they can change it for me.

                                    If they cannot change it, would it be possible to get rid of the antenna and mount a pa/lna antenna ?

                                    Regards

                                    Alex

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                                    wrote on last edited by Koresh
                                    #37

                                    @Slorf Do not worry. Antenna will work with any board thikness, but with 1.6mm (with current geomerty configuration) it will be optimal. Almost all china nrf modules (I've seen) have non optimal antenna geometry.
                                    PS
                                    I'am sorry :( I hope dirtypcb will change you order.

                                    @Slorf said in MySensors Stable Node:

                                    it be possible to get rid of the antenna and mount a pa/lna antenna ?

                                    It is possible, but its very non technologically...

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                                      Great board.
                                      Did you test the performance ? Like number of recieved packets per second ?

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                                        @Koresh

                                        Let's hope the change it :-)

                                        Would it be possible to mount something like this on the pcb ?

                                        http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-SMA-female-jack-PCB-board-mount-right-angle-RF-coax-adapter-connector-converter/32588385730.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.2.S4UqzO&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201644_2_505_506_503_504_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201560_3,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6449&btsid=91e89a18-89b4-43d2-bbab-ea422e14d360

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                                          @Koresh

                                          Couple of questions :-)

                                          How to mount the second Quartz crystal ?, there are no holes in the pcb

                                          The LDO regulators are mounted next to 4.7uf capacitors, is it correct that the regulators and capacitors are connected to eachother on both sides ?

                                          On the photo of the assembled pcb it looks like this, but on the photo of the plain pcb and the schematic it look different.

                                                                                     | Pin 1
                                                                                    IC3
                                                                       Pin2    |          | Pin 3
                                                  Are pin 2 and 3 also connected to the capacitor left and right pin ?
                                                                    Left pin   |    C14   | Right pin
                                          

                                          Thanks !!

                                          Alex

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