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Multisensor PIR based on IKEA Molgan

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  • T TimO

    @tomkxy Nice write up! Do you have an idea on the accuracy of the humidity sensor within the case?

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    @TimO said:

    @tomkxy Nice write up! Do you have an idea on the accuracy of the humidity sensor within the case?

    I did some comparison measure regarding temp and humidity. I place an open Sensebender just beside the modded Molgan. The humidity measured at the Molgan was about 11% lower than the humidity measured by the open Sensebender. With respect to temp the Molgans temp was about 6% lower than the temp measured by the open Sensebender.

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    • T tomkxy

      @TimO said:

      @tomkxy Nice write up! Do you have an idea on the accuracy of the humidity sensor within the case?

      I did some comparison measure regarding temp and humidity. I place an open Sensebender just beside the modded Molgan. The humidity measured at the Molgan was about 11% lower than the humidity measured by the open Sensebender. With respect to temp the Molgans temp was about 6% lower than the temp measured by the open Sensebender.

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      @tomkxy Thank you for reporting back!

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        Cliff Karlsson
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        #68

        Ok, so if I as a complete beginner want to use a the original pir and control the lights all I need to do is:

        Tap the power from the regulator U1 and power a 3.3v mini-pro (keeping the 3 batteries)

        Remove Resistor R17 and connect the solderpoint nearest the chip to an arduino input and I can then basicly be able to run the standard motion sketch ? (After removing the photodiode and bridging the connectors?)

        I can connect the the other solderpoint to an arduino output and if uploading a sketch witch puts that output HIGH the leds will turn on?

        If I am fine with 30secs of triggertime I do not have to do anything more?

        Are all my assumptions correct?

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        • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

          Ok, so if I as a complete beginner want to use a the original pir and control the lights all I need to do is:

          Tap the power from the regulator U1 and power a 3.3v mini-pro (keeping the 3 batteries)

          Remove Resistor R17 and connect the solderpoint nearest the chip to an arduino input and I can then basicly be able to run the standard motion sketch ? (After removing the photodiode and bridging the connectors?)

          I can connect the the other solderpoint to an arduino output and if uploading a sketch witch puts that output HIGH the leds will turn on?

          If I am fine with 30secs of triggertime I do not have to do anything more?

          Are all my assumptions correct?

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          dynamite
          wrote on last edited by
          #69

          @Cliff-Karlsson correct!:smile:

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          • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

            Ok, so if I as a complete beginner want to use a the original pir and control the lights all I need to do is:

            Tap the power from the regulator U1 and power a 3.3v mini-pro (keeping the 3 batteries)

            Remove Resistor R17 and connect the solderpoint nearest the chip to an arduino input and I can then basicly be able to run the standard motion sketch ? (After removing the photodiode and bridging the connectors?)

            I can connect the the other solderpoint to an arduino output and if uploading a sketch witch puts that output HIGH the leds will turn on?

            If I am fine with 30secs of triggertime I do not have to do anything more?

            Are all my assumptions correct?

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            #70

            @Cliff-Karlsson
            Excellent summarized! Perfect HowTo!

            Voted Cliff-Karlson for Documentation Team :-D

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              Cliff Karlsson
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              #71

              Haha, right. Last question, if I also want the sensor to report battery-usage. Is there any way to accomplish that without soldering any more resistors?

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              • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                Haha, right. Last question, if I also want the sensor to report battery-usage. Is there any way to accomplish that without soldering any more resistors?

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                Yveaux
                Mod
                wrote on last edited by
                #72

                @Cliff-Karlsson Yes, there is!
                Use my Vcc library!

                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                • YveauxY Yveaux

                  @Cliff-Karlsson Yes, there is!
                  Use my Vcc library!

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #73

                  @Yveaux @Cliff-Karlsson but in the scheme of cliff he is taken the power after the power regulator. So you are not
                  Measuring the battery with your VCC library.

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                  • dynamiteD dynamite

                    @Yveaux @Cliff-Karlsson but in the scheme of cliff he is taken the power after the power regulator. So you are not
                    Measuring the battery with your VCC library.

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                    Yveaux
                    Mod
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #74

                    @dynamite You're right then. I didn't read his howto, just answered how to read battery voltage without voltage divider ;-)

                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                    • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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                      Cliff Karlsson
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #75

                      Ok, but if I measured right when talking the power from the regulator you could get 3v or ~4.5v witch i guess is directly from the batteries. If I connect the 4.5v to the power input on the same side as the tx/rx can I still not use the vcc library?

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                      • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #76

                        How would a sketch for this PIR look like? I tried combining the PIR and RelayActuator but my skills are not enough.

                        This is what I have came up with:

                        /**
                         * The MySensors Arduino library handles the wireless radio link and protocol
                         * between your home built sensors/actuators and HA controller of choice.
                         * The sensors forms a self healing radio network with optional repeaters. Each
                         * repeater and gateway builds a routing tables in EEPROM which keeps track of the
                         * network topology allowing messages to be routed to nodes.
                         *
                         * Created by Henrik Ekblad <henrik.ekblad@mysensors.org>
                         * Copyright (C) 2013-2015 Sensnology AB
                         * Full contributor list: https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/graphs/contributors
                         *
                         * Documentation: http://www.mysensors.org
                         * Support Forum: http://forum.mysensors.org
                         *
                         * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
                         * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
                         * version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation.
                         *
                         *******************************
                         *
                         * REVISION HISTORY
                         * Version 1.0 - Henrik Ekblad
                         * 
                         * DESCRIPTION
                         * Motion Sensor example using HC-SR501 
                         * http://www.mysensors.org/build/motion
                         *
                         */
                        
                        // Enable debug prints
                        #define MY_DEBUG
                        
                        // Enable and select radio type attached
                        //#define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                        #define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                        
                        #include <SPI.h>
                        #include <MySensors.h>
                        
                        unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 120000; // Sleep time between reports (in milliseconds)
                        #define DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR 3   // The digital input you attached your motion sensor.  (Only 2 and 3 generates interrupt!)
                        #define RELAY_1  9  // Arduino Digital I/O pin number for first relay (second on pin+1 etc)
                        #define NUMBER_OF_RELAYS 1 // Total number of attached relays
                        #define RELAY_ON 1  // GPIO value to write to turn on attached relay
                        #define RELAY_OFF 0 // GPIO value to write to turn off attached relay
                        
                        
                        #define CHILD_ID 1   // Id of the sensor child
                        #define SECONDARY_CHILD_ID 4
                        
                        void before() { 
                          for (int sensor=1, pin=RELAY_1; sensor<=NUMBER_OF_RELAYS;sensor++, pin++) {
                            // Then set relay pins in output mode
                            pinMode(pin, OUTPUT);   
                            // Set relay to last known state (using eeprom storage) 
                            digitalWrite(pin, loadState(sensor)?RELAY_ON:RELAY_OFF);
                          }
                        }
                        
                        // Initialize motion message
                        MyMessage msg(CHILD_ID, V_TRIPPED);
                        
                        void setup()  
                        {  
                          pinMode(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR, INPUT);      // sets the motion sensor digital pin as input
                          
                          
                        }
                        
                        void presentation()  {
                          // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                          sendSketchInfo("Light/Motion Sensor ikea", "1.0");
                        
                          // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                          present(CHILD_ID, S_MOTION);
                          for (int sensor=1, pin=RELAY_1; sensor<=NUMBER_OF_RELAYS;sensor++, pin++) {
                            // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                            present(sensor, S_LIGHT);
                        }
                        
                        void loop()     
                        {     
                          // Read digital motion value
                          boolean tripped = digitalRead(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR) == HIGH; 
                                
                          Serial.println(tripped);
                          send(msg.set(tripped?"1":"0"));  // Send tripped value to gw 
                        
                          // Sleep until interrupt comes in on motion sensor. Send update every two minute.
                          sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR), CHANGE, SLEEP_TIME);
                        }
                        
                        void receive(const MyMessage &message) {
                          // We only expect one type of message from controller. But we better check anyway.
                          if (message.type==V_LIGHT) {
                             // Change relay state
                             digitalWrite(message.sensor-1+RELAY_1, message.getBool()?RELAY_ON:RELAY_OFF);
                             // Store state in eeprom
                             saveState(message.sensor, message.getBool());
                             // Write some debug info
                             Serial.print("Incoming change for sensor:");
                             Serial.print(message.sensor);
                             Serial.print(", New status: ");
                             Serial.println(message.getBool());
                          }
                          }
                        

                        But it does not complie after the last part is added. And I would also like to get the vcc -stuff into the same sketch. Could someone post a working sketch for this?

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                        • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                          Ok, but if I measured right when talking the power from the regulator you could get 3v or ~4.5v witch i guess is directly from the batteries. If I connect the 4.5v to the power input on the same side as the tx/rx can I still not use the vcc library?

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #77

                          @Cliff-Karlsson you can only use the VCC sketch if you by pass the voltage regulators. So power the arduino from two batteries by a separate wire.

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                          • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                            How would a sketch for this PIR look like? I tried combining the PIR and RelayActuator but my skills are not enough.

                            This is what I have came up with:

                            /**
                             * The MySensors Arduino library handles the wireless radio link and protocol
                             * between your home built sensors/actuators and HA controller of choice.
                             * The sensors forms a self healing radio network with optional repeaters. Each
                             * repeater and gateway builds a routing tables in EEPROM which keeps track of the
                             * network topology allowing messages to be routed to nodes.
                             *
                             * Created by Henrik Ekblad <henrik.ekblad@mysensors.org>
                             * Copyright (C) 2013-2015 Sensnology AB
                             * Full contributor list: https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/graphs/contributors
                             *
                             * Documentation: http://www.mysensors.org
                             * Support Forum: http://forum.mysensors.org
                             *
                             * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
                             * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
                             * version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation.
                             *
                             *******************************
                             *
                             * REVISION HISTORY
                             * Version 1.0 - Henrik Ekblad
                             * 
                             * DESCRIPTION
                             * Motion Sensor example using HC-SR501 
                             * http://www.mysensors.org/build/motion
                             *
                             */
                            
                            // Enable debug prints
                            #define MY_DEBUG
                            
                            // Enable and select radio type attached
                            //#define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                            #define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                            
                            #include <SPI.h>
                            #include <MySensors.h>
                            
                            unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 120000; // Sleep time between reports (in milliseconds)
                            #define DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR 3   // The digital input you attached your motion sensor.  (Only 2 and 3 generates interrupt!)
                            #define RELAY_1  9  // Arduino Digital I/O pin number for first relay (second on pin+1 etc)
                            #define NUMBER_OF_RELAYS 1 // Total number of attached relays
                            #define RELAY_ON 1  // GPIO value to write to turn on attached relay
                            #define RELAY_OFF 0 // GPIO value to write to turn off attached relay
                            
                            
                            #define CHILD_ID 1   // Id of the sensor child
                            #define SECONDARY_CHILD_ID 4
                            
                            void before() { 
                              for (int sensor=1, pin=RELAY_1; sensor<=NUMBER_OF_RELAYS;sensor++, pin++) {
                                // Then set relay pins in output mode
                                pinMode(pin, OUTPUT);   
                                // Set relay to last known state (using eeprom storage) 
                                digitalWrite(pin, loadState(sensor)?RELAY_ON:RELAY_OFF);
                              }
                            }
                            
                            // Initialize motion message
                            MyMessage msg(CHILD_ID, V_TRIPPED);
                            
                            void setup()  
                            {  
                              pinMode(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR, INPUT);      // sets the motion sensor digital pin as input
                              
                              
                            }
                            
                            void presentation()  {
                              // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                              sendSketchInfo("Light/Motion Sensor ikea", "1.0");
                            
                              // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                              present(CHILD_ID, S_MOTION);
                              for (int sensor=1, pin=RELAY_1; sensor<=NUMBER_OF_RELAYS;sensor++, pin++) {
                                // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                                present(sensor, S_LIGHT);
                            }
                            
                            void loop()     
                            {     
                              // Read digital motion value
                              boolean tripped = digitalRead(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR) == HIGH; 
                                    
                              Serial.println(tripped);
                              send(msg.set(tripped?"1":"0"));  // Send tripped value to gw 
                            
                              // Sleep until interrupt comes in on motion sensor. Send update every two minute.
                              sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR), CHANGE, SLEEP_TIME);
                            }
                            
                            void receive(const MyMessage &message) {
                              // We only expect one type of message from controller. But we better check anyway.
                              if (message.type==V_LIGHT) {
                                 // Change relay state
                                 digitalWrite(message.sensor-1+RELAY_1, message.getBool()?RELAY_ON:RELAY_OFF);
                                 // Store state in eeprom
                                 saveState(message.sensor, message.getBool());
                                 // Write some debug info
                                 Serial.print("Incoming change for sensor:");
                                 Serial.print(message.sensor);
                                 Serial.print(", New status: ");
                                 Serial.println(message.getBool());
                              }
                              }
                            

                            But it does not complie after the last part is added. And I would also like to get the vcc -stuff into the same sketch. Could someone post a working sketch for this?

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                            #78

                            @Cliff-Karlsson the receive routine is out of the repeat loop

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                              Cliff Karlsson
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                              #79

                              Ok, tried placing it in the loop to but with the same result. In the RelayActuator it looks like it really is placed outside the loop: RelayActuator

                              What would the prefered way be to connect the power to the a 3.3v arduino for the best battery time?

                              4.5v from the PIR regulator --> Arduino RAW (using 3 batteries)
                              3v from the PIR regulator --> Arduino VCC (3batteries)

                              And how would I power it from only 2 batteries? would not the PIR or leds need higher voltage than 3v ?

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                              • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                                Ok, tried placing it in the loop to but with the same result. In the RelayActuator it looks like it really is placed outside the loop: RelayActuator

                                What would the prefered way be to connect the power to the a 3.3v arduino for the best battery time?

                                4.5v from the PIR regulator --> Arduino RAW (using 3 batteries)
                                3v from the PIR regulator --> Arduino VCC (3batteries)

                                And how would I power it from only 2 batteries? would not the PIR or leds need higher voltage than 3v ?

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                                Yveaux
                                Mod
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #80

                                @Cliff-Karlsson see here: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3756/multisensor-pir-based-on-ikea-molgan/58

                                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                  #81

                                  Hi guys,

                                  I'm struggling with this one unfortunately, i can't get it to trip/untrip.

                                  Sketch is identical to the motion example.

                                  I've removed the photo diode (not bridged the gap, it looks like bridging the gap stops it from tripping at all, leaving it open means it trips whatever the light level is). This was tested without connecting to the arduino, working as normal.

                                  So i've removed resistor 17, and connected my arduino pin 4 up to the chip side of where R17 was. I'm running the main board of the existing power lines, but i've tapped into the + of the middle battery and that's going to VCC on the arduino. Arduino nano GND is connected to the main board -.

                                  Where am I going wrong? I've tried this on two boards now and they're both acting the same. Serial monitor is just showing me:

                                  send: 14-14-4-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=0,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:1
                                  1
                                  send: 14-14-4-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=0,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:1
                                  1
                                  send: 14-14-4-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=0,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:1
                                  1

                                  Thanks,

                                  Patrick

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                                  • pjblinkP pjblink

                                    Hi guys,

                                    I'm struggling with this one unfortunately, i can't get it to trip/untrip.

                                    Sketch is identical to the motion example.

                                    I've removed the photo diode (not bridged the gap, it looks like bridging the gap stops it from tripping at all, leaving it open means it trips whatever the light level is). This was tested without connecting to the arduino, working as normal.

                                    So i've removed resistor 17, and connected my arduino pin 4 up to the chip side of where R17 was. I'm running the main board of the existing power lines, but i've tapped into the + of the middle battery and that's going to VCC on the arduino. Arduino nano GND is connected to the main board -.

                                    Where am I going wrong? I've tried this on two boards now and they're both acting the same. Serial monitor is just showing me:

                                    send: 14-14-4-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=0,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:1
                                    1
                                    send: 14-14-4-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=0,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:1
                                    1
                                    send: 14-14-4-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=0,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:1
                                    1

                                    Thanks,

                                    Patrick

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                                    dynamite
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #82

                                    @pjblink hi your setup sounds ok to me! And from your debug I think it is transmitting a value. Is this value submitted after activating the pir?
                                    After activation the is high for about 30 sec then it sound be low again. Maybe you can verify this procedure. Can you debug on the receiving side?

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                                      gijss
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #83

                                      I have build a couple of these and they work fine. Replacing batteries with the baseplate is really a huge advantage, and battery life seems to be pretty good.

                                      I have one issue though: I have built one including an LDR. But this seems to freeze after a random time, no longer reacting to movement.
                                      @dynamite , can you may be share your code and the way you have attached your LDR to the arduino etc?

                                      Many thanks!

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                                      • gijssG gijss

                                        I have build a couple of these and they work fine. Replacing batteries with the baseplate is really a huge advantage, and battery life seems to be pretty good.

                                        I have one issue though: I have built one including an LDR. But this seems to freeze after a random time, no longer reacting to movement.
                                        @dynamite , can you may be share your code and the way you have attached your LDR to the arduino etc?

                                        Many thanks!

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                                        dynamite
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #84

                                        @gijss Hi I will try to find the code tonight and post it on github.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #85

                                          Guys,

                                          This is fantastic. Can someone summarise the best practises for using an Arduino Pro mini, to benefit from maximum battery life and voltage monitoring?

                                          Thank you!

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