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  • AnticimexA Offline
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    Anticimex
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    wrote on last edited by Anticimex
    #3

    On openhardware.io all projects have to be open hardware. I see no design files attached to the post, nor on github. Please provide full design files, including schematics and layouts. Preferably in an open format (KiCad or gEDA) but at the very least in a format which can be parsed for free.

    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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    • AnticimexA Anticimex

      On openhardware.io all projects have to be open hardware. I see no design files attached to the post, nor on github. Please provide full design files, including schematics and layouts. Preferably in an open format (KiCad or gEDA) but at the very least in a format which can be parsed for free.

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      #4

      @Anticimex We are in the process of converting designs to KiCAD from proprietary EDA, once done they will be available for download. Thanks.

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      • gohanG gohan

        Is it kind of a raspberry pi but smaller?

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        wrote on last edited by LinuxIoT
        #5

        @gohan Raspberry Pi and the likes run on a full blown Cortex processor with MMU, our EP Board is designed for production use and run on Cortex M4 RF MCU. Please read the documentation on website for more information.

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        • scalzS Offline
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          wrote on last edited by scalz
          #6

          @LinuxIoT
          your EP board looks nice ;)
          I've never tried silabs mcu. As it's not arduino "friendly", which dev tools are available for programming? IAR only??

          Looking at your board, I guess you'll sell it? Kickstarter? FCC? any idea of the price then, regarding the bom?
          I've already enough different mcus for playing but that makes me curious, i can't be indifferent :)

          But i agree too, at least a pdf sch (not an arch sch) is always welcome even if it's not hard to guess it with the bom. Else you should have mentioned your project "In progress" in settings..

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          • scalzS scalz

            @LinuxIoT
            your EP board looks nice ;)
            I've never tried silabs mcu. As it's not arduino "friendly", which dev tools are available for programming? IAR only??

            Looking at your board, I guess you'll sell it? Kickstarter? FCC? any idea of the price then, regarding the bom?
            I've already enough different mcus for playing but that makes me curious, i can't be indifferent :)

            But i agree too, at least a pdf sch (not an arch sch) is always welcome even if it's not hard to guess it with the bom. Else you should have mentioned your project "In progress" in settings..

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            #7

            @scalz Glad that you liked the project. MCU is ARM M4 core.
            Please have a detailed look at the repo, Schematics are provided
            https://github.com/LinuxIoT/LinuxIoTProduct/tree/master/IoT_Boards_Fab_Files

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              #8

              @LinuxIoT rooo, i need to open my eyes, i just looked at the first sch page :blush:
              Yes, i saw the silabs mcu in bom. So what about my others questions, programming and overall cost? :yum:

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                @LinuxIoT rooo, i need to open my eyes, i just looked at the first sch page :blush:
                Yes, i saw the silabs mcu in bom. So what about my others questions, programming and overall cost? :yum:

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                #9

                @scalz We develop with GNU tools and that is what we provide. Lots of IoT operating systems can run on our board, to name a few Zephyr, RIOTOS, ARM mbed, etc. The programming depends on which of these OS you use i.e. ARM mbed can be programmed using their online IDE and as well as GCC toolchain.

                Cost per unit of EP Board isn't cheap as the board is meant for production use and it has features many COTS boards do not have - refer to project site for details. Design can be modified to reduce the cost. We are not selling the board at this point as we are yet to arrange funding for the project, fabrication costs good amount of money, once we have that the next step is to stock a few and sell. Thanks.

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                  wrote on last edited by scalz
                  #10

                  @LinuxIoT
                  thx for precision, interesting to know for gcc, i'm not big fan of online solution though ;)
                  I'm also not suprised for the board cost, no problem, i was just curious to know your strategy.
                  That said this is cool to share your work. Maybe i'll try one day :)

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                  • LinuxIoTL LinuxIoT

                    @scalz We develop with GNU tools and that is what we provide. Lots of IoT operating systems can run on our board, to name a few Zephyr, RIOTOS, ARM mbed, etc. The programming depends on which of these OS you use i.e. ARM mbed can be programmed using their online IDE and as well as GCC toolchain.

                    Cost per unit of EP Board isn't cheap as the board is meant for production use and it has features many COTS boards do not have - refer to project site for details. Design can be modified to reduce the cost. We are not selling the board at this point as we are yet to arrange funding for the project, fabrication costs good amount of money, once we have that the next step is to stock a few and sell. Thanks.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    @LinuxIoT why do you call your board 'LinuxIot' when you don't seem to target Linux as OS?
                    Or am I missing something?

                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                    • YveauxY Yveaux

                      @LinuxIoT why do you call your board 'LinuxIot' when you don't seem to target Linux as OS?
                      Or am I missing something?

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                      wrote on last edited by LinuxIoT
                      #12

                      @Yveaux The name of Project comes from our product Roadmap which is not yet released for public - excerpt:

                      • QEMU bsp for Linux including PHY/Network layer emulation and few Digital I/Os and Analog
                      • SDK for Linux (based on GNU Tools and VIM plugins etc)
                      • Deployment planner application
                      • Gateway on Linux (board design provided is for CHIP at the moment but we will be working on a ARM Cortex board with RF MCU as PHY)
                      • Tighter Integration with Linux for Dev, Ops, Deployments

                      IoT end-nodes can run a variety of embedded firmware/OS i.e. Zephyr, RIOTOS, ARM mbed, etc. Although, we are actively evaluating work-needed for using Linux on 32bit Cortex M MCUs.

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                      • LinuxIoTL LinuxIoT

                        @Yveaux The name of Project comes from our product Roadmap which is not yet released for public - excerpt:

                        • QEMU bsp for Linux including PHY/Network layer emulation and few Digital I/Os and Analog
                        • SDK for Linux (based on GNU Tools and VIM plugins etc)
                        • Deployment planner application
                        • Gateway on Linux (board design provided is for CHIP at the moment but we will be working on a ARM Cortex board with RF MCU as PHY)
                        • Tighter Integration with Linux for Dev, Ops, Deployments

                        IoT end-nodes can run a variety of embedded firmware/OS i.e. Zephyr, RIOTOS, ARM mbed, etc. Although, we are actively evaluating work-needed for using Linux on 32bit Cortex M MCUs.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        @LinuxIoT does this relate to mysensors in any way?

                        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                        • AnticimexA Anticimex

                          @LinuxIoT does this relate to mysensors in any way?

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                          #14

                          @Anticimex Please clarify your question, thanks

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                          • LinuxIoTL LinuxIoT

                            @Anticimex Please clarify your question, thanks

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #15

                            @LinuxIoT well, this is the forum for MySensors. You can read about MySensors on mysensors.org. Everything discussed here is relating to the MySensors infrastructure. And most if not all projects on openhardware.io is targeting the MySensors framework. But I fail to see these your board has anything to do with mysensors.

                            Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                            • AnticimexA Anticimex

                              @LinuxIoT well, this is the forum for MySensors. You can read about MySensors on mysensors.org. Everything discussed here is relating to the MySensors infrastructure. And most if not all projects on openhardware.io is targeting the MySensors framework. But I fail to see these your board has anything to do with mysensors.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              @Anticimex openhardware.io shares this forum for comments, you are correct in saying we do not use mysensors infrastructure. If there is a way to separate comments/forum from both sites let us know and we will make the change.

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                              • LinuxIoTL LinuxIoT

                                @Anticimex openhardware.io shares this forum for comments, you are correct in saying we do not use mysensors infrastructure. If there is a way to separate comments/forum from both sites let us know and we will make the change.

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #17

                                @LinuxIoT or you could add support to mysensors and everyone is happy 😁

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                                • LinuxIoTL LinuxIoT

                                  @Anticimex openhardware.io shares this forum for comments, you are correct in saying we do not use mysensors infrastructure. If there is a way to separate comments/forum from both sites let us know and we will make the change.

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                                  Anticimex
                                  Contest Winner
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  @LinuxIoT not to my knowledge but perhaps you could emphasize that fact in your openhardware.io topic. Users might otherwise be confused in how to incorporate your device into their system.

                                  Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #19

                                    This is a openhardware.io comment thread, so it does not necessarily have to be MySensors related.

                                    Could be a bit confusing when the project also is IoT-related but not much we can do about it at the moment.

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                                    • hekH hek

                                      This is a openhardware.io comment thread, so it does not necessarily have to be MySensors related.

                                      Could be a bit confusing when the project also is IoT-related but not much we can do about it at the moment.

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                                      #20

                                      @hek thanks for the clarification, appreciate that.

                                      @Anticimex hope this clarifies.

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