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💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox

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  • NeverDieN NeverDie

    Would you please provide a link to the PIR lens that you're using?

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    Koresh
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    #3

    @NeverDie No problem :)
    http://en.nysenba.com/index.php/page-7-26.html - summary.
    0_1500221965537_s9002.png

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    • KoreshK Koresh

      @NeverDie No problem :)
      http://en.nysenba.com/index.php/page-7-26.html - summary.
      0_1500221965537_s9002.png

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      @Koresh said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

      @NeverDie No problem :)
      http://en.nysenba.com/index.php/page-7-26.html - summary.
      0_1500221965537_s9002.png
      Where do you buy them from?

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      • NeverDieN NeverDie

        @Koresh said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

        @NeverDie No problem :)
        http://en.nysenba.com/index.php/page-7-26.html - summary.
        0_1500221965537_s9002.png
        Where do you buy them from?

        KoreshK Offline
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        #5

        @NeverDie I bought this lens in the radio shop next street :) It is very difficult to buy something in my country so I hope it will be not so hard to find such lens in China.

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          Could cyou please share BOM?

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          • MiKaM MiKa

            Could cyou please share BOM?

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            #7

            @MiKa oh.. pdf doesn't have some component names, sorry. I will try to share bom today. And of course I will update schematic after I test the board if needed.

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            • KoreshK Koresh

              @NeverDie I bought this lens in the radio shop next street :) It is very difficult to buy something in my country so I hope it will be not so hard to find such lens in China.

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              @Koresh said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

              @NeverDie I bought this lens in the radio shop next street :) It is very difficult to buy something in my country so I hope it will be not so hard to find such lens in China.

              OK, thanks for the answer. If anyone reading this finds it, please post where you found it.

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              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                @Koresh said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                @NeverDie I bought this lens in the radio shop next street :) It is very difficult to buy something in my country so I hope it will be not so hard to find such lens in China.

                OK, thanks for the answer. If anyone reading this finds it, please post where you found it.

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                @NeverDie why are you asking? Does this lens seem better than the one you are currently working with?

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                • TerrenceT Terrence

                  @NeverDie why are you asking? Does this lens seem better than the one you are currently working with?

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                  @Terrence
                  Just scoping out alternatives in case it's ever needed.

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                  • KoreshK Offline
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                    #11

                    I am not sure this board is useful, but it works properly :wink:
                    0_1503566882454_MultiProtoBox_1.jpg

                    0_1503566911484_MultiProtoBox_2.jpg

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                    • KoreshK Offline
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                      This board fits the box good :wink:
                      0_1507293417863_DSC06257.png
                      0_1507293389221_DSC06258.png

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                        may I ask how did you solder all the small SMD parts?

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                        • KoreshK Koresh

                          This board fits the box good :wink:
                          0_1507293417863_DSC06257.png
                          0_1507293389221_DSC06258.png

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                          @Koresh

                          Nice work! It looks like a commercial product.

                          What about the antenna?

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                            And which battery? Small 250 mAh Li-ion? ;)

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                            • NeverDieN NeverDie

                              @Koresh

                              Nice work! It looks like a commercial product.

                              What about the antenna?

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                              @NeverDie said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                              What about the antenna?

                              Maybe this could fit

                              https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10Pcs-433MHz-Helical-Antenna-2-5dBi-32mm-for-Remote-Contorl/32608690665.html

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                              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                @Koresh

                                Nice work! It looks like a commercial product.

                                What about the antenna?

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                                @NeverDie said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                Nice work! It looks like a commercial product.

                                Thanks a lot for your high appraisal of this device. I designed this board just for fun but now I really like it with this enclosure. I would plan to improove this board a little (omit unnecessary functions and add useful features) and to start production of this device.

                                @NeverDie said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                What about the antenna?

                                I use very simple solution for all my boards. I just solder wire and fix it with glue pen to the board to improve reliability. Not very ideal for 433MHz board (~20cm) but perfect for 868MHz (~10cm). By the way I tested different modules with Yury (433/866). we found 868Mhz optimal frequency. Excellent range (up to 10x compareble to NRF) and very good feedthrough. So may be it is the most optimal rf solution.

                                @MiKa said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                And which battery? Small 250 mAh Li-ion?

                                May be. With usb and onboard charger of course :wink:

                                @gohan said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                may I ask how did you solder all the small SMD parts?

                                I soldered all of my prototypes by hand. I use simple soldering gun and flux. All boards batches are assembled on the factory of course (manually or automatic, depends on the batch size).

                                @gohan said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                Maybe this could fit
                                https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10Pcs-433MHz-Helical-Antenna-2-5dBi-32mm-for-Remote-Contorl/32608690665.html

                                I really do not recommend to use springs like this. It is not antenna it is... mechanical spring. I tried to use many of them and all of them are much worse compareble with single wire antenna. It has very bad characteristic. :-1: I verified it in modeling software and in real life.

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                                • KoreshK Koresh

                                  @NeverDie said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                  Nice work! It looks like a commercial product.

                                  Thanks a lot for your high appraisal of this device. I designed this board just for fun but now I really like it with this enclosure. I would plan to improove this board a little (omit unnecessary functions and add useful features) and to start production of this device.

                                  @NeverDie said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                  What about the antenna?

                                  I use very simple solution for all my boards. I just solder wire and fix it with glue pen to the board to improve reliability. Not very ideal for 433MHz board (~20cm) but perfect for 868MHz (~10cm). By the way I tested different modules with Yury (433/866). we found 868Mhz optimal frequency. Excellent range (up to 10x compareble to NRF) and very good feedthrough. So may be it is the most optimal rf solution.

                                  @MiKa said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                  And which battery? Small 250 mAh Li-ion?

                                  May be. With usb and onboard charger of course :wink:

                                  @gohan said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                  may I ask how did you solder all the small SMD parts?

                                  I soldered all of my prototypes by hand. I use simple soldering gun and flux. All boards batches are assembled on the factory of course (manually or automatic, depends on the batch size).

                                  @gohan said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                  Maybe this could fit
                                  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10Pcs-433MHz-Helical-Antenna-2-5dBi-32mm-for-Remote-Contorl/32608690665.html

                                  I really do not recommend to use springs like this. It is not antenna it is... mechanical spring. I tried to use many of them and all of them are much worse compareble with single wire antenna. It has very bad characteristic. :-1: I verified it in modeling software and in real life.

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                                  @Koresh said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                  I use very simple solution for all my boards. I just solder wire and fix it with glue pen to the board to improve reliability.

                                  Do you have a photo of this?

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                                  • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                    @Koresh said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                    I use very simple solution for all my boards. I just solder wire and fix it with glue pen to the board to improve reliability.

                                    Do you have a photo of this?

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                                    @NeverDie I will make a photo on Monday.

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                                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                      @Koresh said in 💬 MultiRF MultiVoltage ProtoBox:

                                      I use very simple solution for all my boards. I just solder wire and fix it with glue pen to the board to improve reliability.

                                      Do you have a photo of this?

                                      KoreshK Offline
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                                      Koresh
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #20

                                      @NeverDie Sorry for delay... This is example (improved version with 3d printed fixer)
                                      0_1507817311955_IMG_2017-10-12_165821.jpg
                                      0_1507817329009_IMG_2017-10-12_165833.jpg

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