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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors

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    gohan
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    Bad quality from cheap Chinese suppliers, is always an option 😁

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    • keldandorinK keldandorin

      @sundberg84 Is there any way to say if booster is a bad one or not before ordering them?
      The one I ordered was the one on shoping list from aliexpress. Will try I capacitator and see if I can get a new booster from kjell&Comany tomorrow just to try. Build a setup on bread bord where I powered radio with 2 AA and got the same result. Got a fju places where I like to put some sensors with no power so realy need to get this working :). Could the radiomodules be bad to?

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      sundberg84
      Hardware Contributor
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      @keldandorin - could be a weak clone radio yes.
      Just to get your hopes up, I got booster driven nodes all around the place with Nrf24l01+ radio and they works great!
      I change battery every 1-1.5 years but as I said, the experience is that the radio - booster needs a good teamwork :)

      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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        @keldandorin - could be a weak clone radio yes.
        Just to get your hopes up, I got booster driven nodes all around the place with Nrf24l01+ radio and they works great!
        I change battery every 1-1.5 years but as I said, the experience is that the radio - booster needs a good teamwork :)

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        keldandorin
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        #431

        @sundberg84 Sounds good, Thats what I'm looking for. Have never worked with tinkers like this befor so everything is new. But this place is great thx for taking time.

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          Sorry, I'm a bit slow and maybe a little off-topic: A quicky:

          Can I read somewhere how payment is done when ordering from openhardware.io? On the start page for openhardware.io there is no clue. I've also tried to search this section (easy-newbie-pcb-for-mysensors) for "payment".

          Yes, I've read that the "order" is more like a forward of orderinformation to the supplier, but do I really need to order first and after that ask what payment solution is present?

          :)


          A complete rookie! Love this stuff! My path: Domoticz/Zwave and now a big MySensors-fan! :)

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          • P pellusfromtellus

            Sorry, I'm a bit slow and maybe a little off-topic: A quicky:

            Can I read somewhere how payment is done when ordering from openhardware.io? On the start page for openhardware.io there is no clue. I've also tried to search this section (easy-newbie-pcb-for-mysensors) for "payment".

            Yes, I've read that the "order" is more like a forward of orderinformation to the supplier, but do I really need to order first and after that ask what payment solution is present?

            :)

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            sundberg84
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            @pellusfromtellus - to get a 100% right answer we ping @hek but I recommend paypal!

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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              hek
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              @pellusfromtellus

              I think most of them handle paypal/card. You can press the "Order" button to find out. Nothing is binding until payment has been done.

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                Is there a drilling and outline file available?

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                • Paul RobertsonP Paul Robertson

                  Is there a drilling and outline file available?

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                  sundberg84
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                  @Paul-Robertson - hi!
                  Yes, but this is Eagles output gerber files.

                  Drill: SundbergMys9.TXT
                  Outline can be found in all other files:

                  https://www.pcbway.com/project/share/How_to_generate_Gerber_from_Eagle.html

                  0_1505990995661_upload-c5e3c1d3-3dfb-46dc-9e10-e2d5dbfaca0d

                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                    sincze
                    MySensors Evangelist
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                    #437

                    Damn. Just missing the 0,1uF capacitor ..... to complete the 5v build. This will be my smallest build yet ;-) using PCB v9

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                      Damn. Just missing the 0,1uF capacitor ..... to complete the 5v build. This will be my smallest build yet ;-) using PCB v9

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                        hiddenuser
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                        IS it possible to use TP4056 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-Micro-USB-5V-1A-18650-TP4056-Lithium-Battery-Charger-Module-Charging-Board-With-Protection/32728720869.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.A0lkC7) this instead of using the step up booster?
                        Thanks!!

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                          gohan
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                          If you want to use a lipo battery, you need a voltage regulator

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                            IS it possible to use TP4056 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-Micro-USB-5V-1A-18650-TP4056-Lithium-Battery-Charger-Module-Charging-Board-With-Protection/32728720869.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.A0lkC7) this instead of using the step up booster?
                            Thanks!!

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                            sundberg84
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                            @hiddenuser - well not out of the box as mentioned by gohan. Im not really sure what you want to do. Its not possible to use this instead of step-up booster since it outputs 5v and the step-up needs to output 3.3v. But with a voltage regulator in between maybe? As I said - don really understand so maybe you can explain some more about your project?

                            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                              @hiddenuser - well not out of the box as mentioned by gohan. Im not really sure what you want to do. Its not possible to use this instead of step-up booster since it outputs 5v and the step-up needs to output 3.3v. But with a voltage regulator in between maybe? As I said - don really understand so maybe you can explain some more about your project?

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                              gohan
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                              @sundberg84 that tp4056 outputs just the lipo battery voltage

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                                Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                                I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

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                                  Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                                  I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

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                                  sundberg84
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                                  @hiddenuser - well, what would a battery measurer be if it reported a constant 3.3v boosted voltage? ;)
                                  It all depends on how everything is connected (pictures?) but if you have connected it as battery instryctions the radio and voltage divider that measured the incoming battery are not a part of the booster circuit. This to prevent noice to the radio and to be able to actually measure the battery voltage and not step-up voltage which is the idea behind the board.

                                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                    Thanks @sundberg84 and @gohan

                                    I have used made the board for 3.3v set up as per the instruction. I have usd the output from tp4056 into the Battery connector of the board I have a step board from https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Electric-Unit-1-PC-NEW-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-StepUP/32724361266.html According to the specification given in the same link it is supposed to stabilize to 3.3v above 3v but the sensor reports something else back to the gateway.

                                    0_1512985662819_a428954d-5f74-4026-8782-e12b51f52bf3-image.png

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                                    gohan
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                                    @hiddenuser I'm missing how can you use a booster to get 3.3v from a lipo battery

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                                      dakipro
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                                      hey, has anyone maybe made a fritzing drawing/component of the board?
                                      I know, I'm lazy as f but.. since the board is that easy, documenting with it could be easy as well :)

                                      C: OpenHAB2 with node-red on linux laptop
                                      GW: Arduino Nano - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz mqtt
                                      GW: Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz

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                                        @sundberg84 interesting question...or maybe stupid question not sure...

                                        i have a tonn of 3v pro mini's but im thinking of mains powering some for motion sensors.... would i set it up as battery, and then just use a voltage regulator on where the step up usually would be? or is there a better way to handle it?

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                                          there is a voltage regulator footprint on the pcb made for that

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