💬 Arduino Pro Mini Shield for RFM69(H)W
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Ok but why nothing is describe on MySensors on page where show how connect radio ?
But i have connected and works ok 5V without logic level converter...If i not use this logic level converter what will be happen ?
I can use this https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/8CH-IIC-I2C-Logic-Level-Converter-Bi-Directional-Module-DC-DC-5V-to-3-3V-Setp/32238089139.html?spm=a2g17.search0104.3.299.voV8Dr&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_5000015_10151_10065_10344_10068_10342_10343_51102_10340_10341_5130015_10084_10083_10304_10307_10301_10312_10059_10313_10314_10534_5790011_100031_10604_10103_10594_5060015_10142,searchweb201603_32,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=1efe59eb-1872-47dd-8d87-8a30137c624f-24&algo_pvid=1efe59eb-1872-47dd-8d87-8a30137c624f&rmStoreLevelAB=5 ?@pepson I suggest you read it again.... The table refers to VCC 3.3v, thereby what is shown NOT a 5v device, the NOTE on that page and which I quoted above spells it out clearly, a converter would be required for 5v.
If you are supplying it with 5v as well as connecting 5v logic, it is working outside it's specifications, that it is working at all is luck, but magic smoke will appear at some point. -
@pepson
let's recap, I'm not sure you got it..
Says you have a VIN of 5 or 9V, and you connect it to your arduino. On the arduino board you have a ldo. So:- 5V Arduino variants will convert the VIN to a 5V VCC supply to you microcontroller (let's call it atmel, or 328p it's shorter). At this moment the atmel is running fully on 5v. If you set an IO to HIGH or =1, it will output 5V! And it's the same for SPI that you connect to your radio module. You thought you could apply a lower voltage to the radio module by applying an external 3V ?? Can't work, because SPI has datain and dataout. Dataout from atmel to radio will be 5v!!
- 3V arduino variants will convert your VIN (5, 9V etc..) to 3v. The atmel will run on 3v, its pins and peripherals too, so no problem for the dataout above.
I can't explain better, or maybe you should use a 3v arduino, and add a fet to drive your relay from 5v.
I would prefer this way (level shifting a basic io, than level shifting the spi bus) -
@pepson This reminds of that famous quotation "Any ship can be a Minesweeper..."
"Once...." -
Ok but why nothing is describe on MySensors on page where show how connect radio ?
But i have connected and works ok 5V without logic level converter...If i not use this logic level converter what will be happen ?
I can use this https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/8CH-IIC-I2C-Logic-Level-Converter-Bi-Directional-Module-DC-DC-5V-to-3-3V-Setp/32238089139.html?spm=a2g17.search0104.3.299.voV8Dr&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_5000015_10151_10065_10344_10068_10342_10343_51102_10340_10341_5130015_10084_10083_10304_10307_10301_10312_10059_10313_10314_10534_5790011_100031_10604_10103_10594_5060015_10142,searchweb201603_32,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=1efe59eb-1872-47dd-8d87-8a30137c624f-24&algo_pvid=1efe59eb-1872-47dd-8d87-8a30137c624f&rmStoreLevelAB=5 ? -
@pepson
let's recap, I'm not sure you got it..
Says you have a VIN of 5 or 9V, and you connect it to your arduino. On the arduino board you have a ldo. So:- 5V Arduino variants will convert the VIN to a 5V VCC supply to you microcontroller (let's call it atmel, or 328p it's shorter). At this moment the atmel is running fully on 5v. If you set an IO to HIGH or =1, it will output 5V! And it's the same for SPI that you connect to your radio module. You thought you could apply a lower voltage to the radio module by applying an external 3V ?? Can't work, because SPI has datain and dataout. Dataout from atmel to radio will be 5v!!
- 3V arduino variants will convert your VIN (5, 9V etc..) to 3v. The atmel will run on 3v, its pins and peripherals too, so no problem for the dataout above.
I can't explain better, or maybe you should use a 3v arduino, and add a fet to drive your relay from 5v.
I would prefer this way (level shifting a basic io, than level shifting the spi bus) -
@pepson if you need to run a relay, just get an optoisolated relay board and you can use a 3.3v arduino or raspberry without problems.
@gohan said in 💬 Arduino Pro Mini Shield for RFM69(H)W:
@pepson if you need to run a relay, just get an optoisolated relay board and you can use a 3.3v arduino or raspberry without problems.
I dont uderstand ?
Relay is power by 5V. But if i use Arduino Pro Mini 3V he give to relay 3V and relay probably not working on power 3V...
Sorry i am beginner...And i can use this logic level converter
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Get one of these and you can use whatever arduino you want
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/With-Optocoupler-4-Channel-4-channel-Relay-Modules-Relay-Control-Panel-PLC-Relay-5V-Four-Way/32458001101.htmlAnd maybe a new rfm69 module since you probably already killed the one you used.
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Get one of these and you can use whatever arduino you want
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/With-Optocoupler-4-Channel-4-channel-Relay-Modules-Relay-Control-Panel-PLC-Relay-5V-Four-Way/32458001101.htmlAnd maybe a new rfm69 module since you probably already killed the one you used.
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@pepson If you go to 3v Arduino, the answer seems likely to be a 3v relay, either a package as @gohan suggested or roll your own, no ?
FYI, I have a 3v3 node with a RFM69 which has to run a 5v sensor but the number of spare pins is limited, so after many trials and tribulations, am using a 5v Arduino to run and task the sensor with the results being passed back via I2C to the 3.3 device via level converter, all initiated via a single DPDT relay which switches the booster and 5v unit on and off after each cycle..
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Hi,
According to this connection guide https://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio the pro mini D2 will connect to RFN69's DI00.
But the shield seems to connect D4 to DI00.
Is it OK? Or we need to adapt our sketches?Thanks
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Hi,
According to this connection guide https://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio the pro mini D2 will connect to RFN69's DI00.
But the shield seems to connect D4 to DI00.
Is it OK? Or we need to adapt our sketches?Thanks
@muguran said in 💬 Arduino Pro Mini Shield for RFM69(H)W:
But the shield seems to connect D4 to DI00.
Actually, no. DIO0 does connect to D2 on this shield, so there should be no issues. :)
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It seems that I've got another board: it have 4 holes above GND, D2, D3 and D4, and DI00 is connected to the one for D4.
Is this an old version?
I've ordered at the beginning of this year. -
@pepson said in 💬 Arduino Pro Mini Shield for RFM69(H)W:
Hi
Where i can buy this pcb to connect RFM69HW with Arduino Mini Pro ?Click "buy" at this link: https://www.openhardware.io/view/268/Arduino-Pro-Mini-Shield-for-RFM69HW
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@pepson said in 💬 Arduino Pro Mini Shield for RFM69(H)W:
Hi
Where i can buy this pcb to connect RFM69HW with Arduino Mini Pro ?Click "buy" at this link: https://www.openhardware.io/view/268/Arduino-Pro-Mini-Shield-for-RFM69HW
