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💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension

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  • pepsonP pepson

    @koresh

    Ok please share list components... i wait for it.
    And diffrent with v1 and v2 is only that v2 have two batteries ?

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    Koresh
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    #162

    @pepson Yes. So it have longer lifetime, radio range and working temperature range.

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    • KoreshK Koresh

      @pepson Yes. So it have longer lifetime, radio range and working temperature range.

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      #163

      @koresh

      Ok thanks. only wait for list component

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        #164

        Hi
        Can you share your project file and file gerber with this specification
        https://support.jlcpcb.com/article/44-how-to-export-kicad-pcb-to-gerber-files

        Or can you put description to also file gerber ?
        Thanks

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          #165

          Description to model elemnts. Ex. U4

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            wrote on last edited by pepson
            #166

            Please share also layer describe...

            0_1531223837207_192443300t.jpg

            Failed load project to production.

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            • pepsonP pepson

              Please share also layer describe...

              0_1531223837207_192443300t.jpg

              Failed load project to production.

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              Koresh
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              wrote on last edited by Koresh
              #167

              @pepson said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

              Failed load project to production.

              You mixed gerbers of the main board and adapter board.

              @pepson said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

              Please share also layer describe...

              It is standard. If you really need it you can find layers description here
              https://goo.gl/Jv33Lb (Generated Gerber Files)

              @pepson said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

              Can you share your project file and file gerber with this specification

              No I can't. Have no time today, sorry.

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              • KoreshK Koresh

                @pepson said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                Failed load project to production.

                You mixed gerbers of the main board and adapter board.

                @pepson said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                Please share also layer describe...

                It is standard. If you really need it you can find layers description here
                https://goo.gl/Jv33Lb (Generated Gerber Files)

                @pepson said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                Can you share your project file and file gerber with this specification

                No I can't. Have no time today, sorry.

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                @koresh said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                You mixed gerbers of the main board and adapter board.

                Can you explaine me more ? What can i do ?

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                • pepsonP pepson

                  @koresh said in 💬 Button size radionode with sensors swarm extension:

                  You mixed gerbers of the main board and adapter board.

                  Can you explaine me more ? What can i do ?

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                  Koresh
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                  #169

                  @pepson
                  pcb2.* - main boards gerbers
                  rfm69c_to_rfm69hc.* - adapter gerbers
                  You need only main board gerbers

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                    #170

                    Hi @koresh I'm having problems with battery monitor. Trying to find out what's wrong, I have realiced that A6 analog reads from regulator output. So It allways reports 3,3V, isn't it?

                    Also, I read that unregulated could go up to 6,5V. Wouldn't this destroy radio module? I think I'm missing something.

                    Thanks.

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                      #171

                      Hi. Do you have unassembled pcbs to sell?

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                      • G Gerator

                        Hi @koresh I'm having problems with battery monitor. Trying to find out what's wrong, I have realiced that A6 analog reads from regulator output. So It allways reports 3,3V, isn't it?

                        Also, I read that unregulated could go up to 6,5V. Wouldn't this destroy radio module? I think I'm missing something.

                        Thanks.

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                        Koresh
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                        #172

                        @gerator Oh.. so sorry. It is new forum reporting system. Didn't saw your message.
                        A6 reads unregulated voltage (3.5-6.5V) through divider (1/3). So it can't destroyed nothing.

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                        • D diogoc

                          Hi. Do you have unassembled pcbs to sell?

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                          Koresh
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                          #173

                          @diogoc I will try to find them. But all of components are 0402... :eyes:

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                            @Koresh I still have a bunch of v1 boards that I never got to work because of power consumption (I presume). I thought I'd make one more attempt.

                            I tried bridging the jumper and I'm using a 2032 battery. Consumption varies between 2 and 4mA on different boards. On some boards it fluctuates a lot. The instructions above are not immediately clear. Do I have to remove the LDO AND capacitors as well?

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                              @bjornhallberg

                              while measuring current draw , was there FDTI adapter connected also?

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                              • Y yury

                                @bjornhallberg

                                while measuring current draw , was there FDTI adapter connected also?

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                                #176

                                @yury No I ran them on just a 2032 battery at the time, just had it in an external battery holder. I also removed the LDO on one of the boards and bridged the two top pads, with no apparent effect.

                                Unless there is something wrong with my DMM.

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                                • bjornhallbergB bjornhallberg

                                  @yury No I ran them on just a 2032 battery at the time, just had it in an external battery holder. I also removed the LDO on one of the boards and bridged the two top pads, with no apparent effect.

                                  Unless there is something wrong with my DMM.

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                                  @bjornhallberg I have the same v1 board you have with a sleeping power consumption being 5uA. I also have Si1132 sensor soldered and had some issues with power consumption initially as the standard Si1132 lib did not implement sleep function for this sensor.

                                  1. what sensors do you have? Do they properly put to sleep? BH1760?
                                  2. can you share the sketch?
                                  3. removing the LDO will not help you to bring down consumption from 3mA. 3mA most likely mean your radio is not sleeping. Such consumption will kill CR2032 very quickly - no chance running the board on such consumption
                                  4. did you try a different multimeter?
                                  5. there could be a problem with one of the tantalum capacitor. @yury could you remind which one has to be removed please?

                                  I suggest you start with 5)

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                                  • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                    @bjornhallberg I have the same v1 board you have with a sleeping power consumption being 5uA. I also have Si1132 sensor soldered and had some issues with power consumption initially as the standard Si1132 lib did not implement sleep function for this sensor.

                                    1. what sensors do you have? Do they properly put to sleep? BH1760?
                                    2. can you share the sketch?
                                    3. removing the LDO will not help you to bring down consumption from 3mA. 3mA most likely mean your radio is not sleeping. Such consumption will kill CR2032 very quickly - no chance running the board on such consumption
                                    4. did you try a different multimeter?
                                    5. there could be a problem with one of the tantalum capacitor. @yury could you remind which one has to be removed please?

                                    I suggest you start with 5)

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                                    #178

                                    @alexsh1 Thanks for the suggestions! Reassuring to know that you succeeded.

                                    1. I haven't added any sensors so it's just the default ones.
                                    2. https://github.com/EasySensors/ButtonSizeNode ... may need some cleaning up @Koresh or do we use v2 code for v1 sensor as well?
                                    3. I thought as much ... damn. I'm using the CW version radio with the adapter plate. I also thought about the radio but unlike the NRF radio this one should work with no counterfeit units?
                                    4. No my other DMM was out of batteries. Found my old crappy DMM and it says the same, ~2mA.
                                    5. I did remove both caps and it's still at ~2mA.

                                    You're probably right about something not sleeping. Or else I've done a horrible soldering job on the four radios I've attached so far. All four sensors behave pretty much the same.

                                    Also, at least on Domoticz they changed things around now so you have to use V_LEVEL instead of V_LIGHT_LEVEL or what? https://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18577 With V_LIGHT_LEVEL I get some incomprehensible percent value reported.

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                                    • bjornhallbergB bjornhallberg

                                      @alexsh1 Thanks for the suggestions! Reassuring to know that you succeeded.

                                      1. I haven't added any sensors so it's just the default ones.
                                      2. https://github.com/EasySensors/ButtonSizeNode ... may need some cleaning up @Koresh or do we use v2 code for v1 sensor as well?
                                      3. I thought as much ... damn. I'm using the CW version radio with the adapter plate. I also thought about the radio but unlike the NRF radio this one should work with no counterfeit units?
                                      4. No my other DMM was out of batteries. Found my old crappy DMM and it says the same, ~2mA.
                                      5. I did remove both caps and it's still at ~2mA.

                                      You're probably right about something not sleeping. Or else I've done a horrible soldering job on the four radios I've attached so far. All four sensors behave pretty much the same.

                                      Also, at least on Domoticz they changed things around now so you have to use V_LEVEL instead of V_LIGHT_LEVEL or what? https://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18577 With V_LIGHT_LEVEL I get some incomprehensible percent value reported.

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                                      @bjornhallberg

                                      1. No - please double check the board. There are options for a few sensors. Which ones do you have. Sensors on board.

                                      2. Code really depends on sensors on board you have.

                                      3. This is not about counterfeit radio. Just radio NOT SLEEPING. That's it.

                                      4. OK.

                                      5. OK

                                      First thing first. Let's deal with your sleeping problem.
                                      Identify which sensors you have on board or post a good quality photo of the board.
                                      Try to use minimum sketch (see commends below - choose the correct Mhz band):
                                      and measure the current

                                      #define MY_DEBUG
                                      #define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                                      // Please use one!!!!!!
                                      //#define MY_RFM69_FREQUENCY   RF69_433MHZ
                                      //#define MY_RFM69_FREQUENCY   RF69_868MHZ
                                      //#define MY_RFM69_FREQUENCY   RF69_915MHZ
                                      #define MY_NODE_ID AUTO
                                      #define MY_TRANSPORT_UPLINK_CHECK_DISABLED
                                      #define MY_PARENT_NODE_IS_STATIC
                                      #define MY_PARENT_NODE_ID 0
                                      
                                      #include <Wire.h>
                                      #include <BH1750.h> //Make sure you are using this one https://github.com/claws/BH1750
                                      BH1750 lightMeter;
                                      #include "SparkFun_Si7021_Breakout_Library.h"
                                      Weather sensor;
                                      #include <MySensors.h>
                                      #define SPIFLASH_BLOCKERASE_32K   0xD8
                                      #define SPIFLASH_CHIPERASE        0x60
                                      
                                      
                                      void setup() {
                                      lightMeter.begin(BH1750::ONE_TIME_LOW_RES_MODE);
                                        noInterrupts();
                                        _flash.initialize();
                                        _flash.sleep();
                                        interrupts();
                                      }
                                      
                                      
                                      void loop() {
                                      lightMeter.begin(BH1750::ONE_TIME_LOW_RES_MODE);
                                      lux = lightMeter.readLightLevel();
                                      Serial.print("Lux="); Serial.println(lux);
                                      sleep(10000);
                                      }
                                      
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                                        #180

                                        @alexsh1 I may have made a bit of a mistake with some glitchy chinese test probes. De-glitched cables and connected to a proper lab power supply gave very different readings (with the default git-sketch) ...

                                        0_1544111693735_IMG_20181206_162510-01.jpeg

                                        Still a bit confused over the differing readings. I get that the board I stripped from regulator and capacitors would perform better though. So do I have to do the same for all the other boards as well? Of course, I could save the worst performing boards for later and run them on 2xAA or something in places where space isn't an issue.

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                                        • bjornhallbergB bjornhallberg

                                          @alexsh1 I may have made a bit of a mistake with some glitchy chinese test probes. De-glitched cables and connected to a proper lab power supply gave very different readings (with the default git-sketch) ...

                                          0_1544111693735_IMG_20181206_162510-01.jpeg

                                          Still a bit confused over the differing readings. I get that the board I stripped from regulator and capacitors would perform better though. So do I have to do the same for all the other boards as well? Of course, I could save the worst performing boards for later and run them on 2xAA or something in places where space isn't an issue.

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                                          Hi @bjornhallberg.
                                          I've done many tests today with your code. All tested boards were the newer ones. So I completely had no ideas until I read your last message. Now all is clear for me. You have battery draining ~10-100ua, not 1-2mA. As I see your boards contain 107J capacitors. It was an absolutely failed batch of capacitors. We resoldered all of these capacitors on all the boards after we had found this problem with @alexsh1. Unfortunatelly some of these boards had been sent until we found this problem. We are so sorry you had to deal with these failed boards. I suggest I send you some new tested buttonsized v1 boards to you. Also I can send good capacitors to rework failed boards and some of my new interesting boards for free.

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