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Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??

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  • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

    Ok thanks, but I meant the fuses, varistors and stuff.

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    @Cliff-Karlsson
    I haven't tested any of these parts yet but this is what I ordered. I am in the USA so this is spec'd for 120 VAC. If you're using 240 you will need to change the size of the Varistor but everything else should be fine for 240.

    Varistor for 120VAC - http://www.ebay.com/itm/321024816822?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    73°C Thermal Fuse - http://www.ebay.com/itm/221560426284?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=520415979885&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    250V 300mA Slow Blow Fuse - http://www.ebay.com/itm/111433875797?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=410420838583&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    HLK-PM01 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/351418782712?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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    • F Fabien

      @ceech said:

      This one is not "safe", but it is an In-Wall AC to DC converter. Transformerless. With a 3A Solid state relay:

      2015-08-21T12-11-1.jpg

      2015-08.jpg

      The converter output is 3.3V at 100mA and the solid state relay is a Triac.

      Do you have some shcematic of this board ? I'd like to adapt it for 2 relays

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      @Fabien @DrJeff Here is a link to board and schematic files for the transformerless AC-DC converter:
      https://github.com/ceech/AC_SR087

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        Would this varistor work with 240v?
        http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-x-Zinc-Oxide-Varistor-250VAC-60J-2500A-10mm-/260848704608?hash=item3cbbcb5c60

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        • C ceech

          @Fabien @DrJeff Here is a link to board and schematic files for the transformerless AC-DC converter:
          https://github.com/ceech/AC_SR087

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          @ceech can't look at the files right now is this a dimmer switch that is transformerless?

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          • DrJeffD DrJeff

            @ceech can't look at the files right now is this a dimmer switch that is transformerless?

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            @DrJeff Yes

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            • C ceech

              @DrJeff Yes

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              @ceech Thanks yet again!

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              • M MartinP

                Would this varistor work with 240v?
                http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-x-Zinc-Oxide-Varistor-250VAC-60J-2500A-10mm-/260848704608?hash=item3cbbcb5c60

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                @MartinP Based on my limited knowledge, yes, that should work. Maybe someone else can chime in to confirm?

                My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                  thank you @ceech

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                  • petewillP petewill

                    @MartinP Based on my limited knowledge, yes, that should work. Maybe someone else can chime in to confirm?

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                    @petewill said:

                    @MartinP Based on my limited knowledge, yes, that should work. Maybe someone else can chime in to confirm?

                    I would personally go with a higher voltage rating. Something like 15-20% higher than your normal voltage otherwise you may get regular nuisance trips. So for a 240 VAC system, I would use something close to 290V.

                    Cheers
                    Al

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                    • SparkmanS Sparkman

                      @petewill said:

                      @MartinP Based on my limited knowledge, yes, that should work. Maybe someone else can chime in to confirm?

                      I would personally go with a higher voltage rating. Something like 15-20% higher than your normal voltage otherwise you may get regular nuisance trips. So for a 240 VAC system, I would use something close to 290V.

                      Cheers
                      Al

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                      @Sparkman Thanks!

                      My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                        20150929_193752.jpg :stuck_out_tongue:

                        RJ_Make

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                          20150929_193752.jpg :stuck_out_tongue:

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                          @ServiceXp :+1: long evening ahead :satisfied:

                          http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                            Hi all,

                            I was wondering, I want to be able to adress my blinds using mysensors. Using the relay, radio etc works fine, yet I am still wondering on this power supply. So using the above component I basically prevent fire by using the thermal fuse and an overload by using a regular fuse, the varistor and the HLK.

                            Now, I am using a Nano (I have still 15 of those) which appear to be using 230mA, the radio itself and a relay. The relay (from the spec sheet) uses 180mA. This should be ok to be used with the HLK shown above. Now, my main concern is, how do you make a all sit together nicely? Is there a PCB type of board you are using? Any pointers welcome :)

                            Kind regards

                            Steve

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                              Hi Steve

                              this may be useful http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1540/110v-230v-ac-to-mysensors-pcb-board

                              Regrads
                              Filip

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                                20150929_193752.jpg :stuck_out_tongue:

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                                @ServiceXp Nice! Let us know how it goes.

                                My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                  Another one http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1586/roller-shutter

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                                    I'm planning on using the HLK-PM01 with the extra precautions discussed here; gluing a thermal fuse on top of the HLK-PM01 and adding a fuse and varistor.

                                    My only problem right now is that I'm unable to find a good source for 0.3A slow blow fuses with axial leads on eBay. The only variants I can find are without leads and it feels a bit unnecessary to add a fuse holder to the circuit since the fuse is meant to be non-replaceable. The ones that petewill posted a link to are out-of-stock. Does anyone have any good suggestion where to find good fuses to use?

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                                      @cygnus said:

                                      HLK-PM01

                                      +1

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                                      • C cygnus

                                        I'm planning on using the HLK-PM01 with the extra precautions discussed here; gluing a thermal fuse on top of the HLK-PM01 and adding a fuse and varistor.

                                        My only problem right now is that I'm unable to find a good source for 0.3A slow blow fuses with axial leads on eBay. The only variants I can find are without leads and it feels a bit unnecessary to add a fuse holder to the circuit since the fuse is meant to be non-replaceable. The ones that petewill posted a link to are out-of-stock. Does anyone have any good suggestion where to find good fuses to use?

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                                        @cygnus said:

                                        My only problem right now is that I'm unable to find a good source for 0.3A slow blow fuses with axial leads on eBay.

                                        Looks like the .4A ones are in stock. I would just go with those.

                                        Cheers
                                        Al

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                                          found these:

                                          http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-25pcs-0-25A-250mA-250V-3-6x10mm-Fuse-Slow-Blow-Glass-Axial-Leaded/32452469177.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.138.0Cb2oJ&ws_ab_test=201556_3,201527_3_71_72_73_74_75,0_0

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