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Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??

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  • Nca78N Offline
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    Nca78
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    Yes varistors can have "catastrophic failure" when they can't handle the surge. In that case they will burn and form a short-circuit.

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    • OliverDogO Offline
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      #374

      Hi guys.

      Did you get any conclusion at all?

      Between these both:
      http://www.electrodragon.com/product/ac-85-265v-dc-5v-power-module/
      https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-HLK-PM01-AC-DC-220V-to-5V-Step-Down-Power-Supply-Module-Intelligent-Household/32267273843.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.anpFsP

      ** the second seems genuine in the pictures.

      Is one safer than the other?
      Is one of them safe enough to in-wall use.

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      • eniE eni

        Hi everyone

        Im using this adapter in some of my projects, and i discovered a lot of faked ones lateley. Check carefully if you got genuie or faked ones. The genuie ones have 2 stickers on it, one with a barcode and one that writes "QC passed". Faked ones does not have those 2 stickers. The printing of faked ones gets easy away with acetone, genuie one stays.. Also there is a little hole at the bottom of genuie ones, faked ones are flat:
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        #375

        @eni
        Hi,everyone,this is sunny from Hi-Link,we keep paying attention to this matter,but now to protect your rights,please contact with us directly to avoid purchasing the fake module,my email is sunny@hlktech.com ,our website is www.hlktech.net.
        We will prosecute the company who make the fake modules with our logo to make the market clean.

        Thank you for your effort and cooperation!
        Sunny

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            • ferroF Offline
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              #378

              Hi all,

              Just by looking at previously mentioned link at Skippy's blog about Quick look at the hlk-pm01 I found he has recently posted next part - Revisiting the hlk-pm01. I think it is worth to read, dealing with resp. how to improve conducted emission of hlk-pm01.

              Also there is a some recommendation to use VIGORTRONIX VTX-214-005-105 AC/DC PCB Mount Power Supply (Farnell #2401040). Not sure if someone is already using it in his projects.

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              • dbemowskD Offline
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                #379

                Someone here had passed the TSP-05 over to someone to review. I think they had asked one of the guys that did reviews of the HLK-PM01. Has anyone got a link to a review on these or can give their thoughts after using one?
                https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TSP-05-replace-HLK-PM01-AC-DC-220V-to-5V-mini-power-supply-module-intelligent-household/32717871230.html?spm=2114.12010108.1000013.3.NDXqMR&scm=1007.13339.33317.0&pvid=e2a30af8-7732-428d-9a22-9a5def1f73cd&tpp=1

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                • ferroF ferro

                  Hi all,

                  Just by looking at previously mentioned link at Skippy's blog about Quick look at the hlk-pm01 I found he has recently posted next part - Revisiting the hlk-pm01. I think it is worth to read, dealing with resp. how to improve conducted emission of hlk-pm01.

                  Also there is a some recommendation to use VIGORTRONIX VTX-214-005-105 AC/DC PCB Mount Power Supply (Farnell #2401040). Not sure if someone is already using it in his projects.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #380

                  @ferro I've looked into thos Vigortonix devices. Those are nice! Unfortunately they're bigger than the HLK's.

                  But for the dimmer designers under us: they have miniature power supplies with built-in zero cross detectors! Looks very interesting!

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                  • dpressleD Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #381

                    what do you guys say about this PSU? i really liked that the mains are separated much more then the HLK.
                    And how is the suggested full circuit use they have:
                    0_1491802881073_upload-7646dbcb-7521-420a-9726-966b93b98d34

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                    • K Offline
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                      ksya
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #382

                      Is using a genuine HLK-PM01 safe when directly connected to mains? I see here that they used extra components for safety.

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                      • MiKaM Offline
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                        MiKa
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                        #383

                        Hi,
                        Varistor and fuse is always good to use as a protection ;)
                        Its lot of cases of start the fire in house from cheap AC/DC converters.
                        Regards,
                        MiKa

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                          dbemowsk
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                          #384

                          I have not only been adding a standard 0.75 amp fuse and MOV in my projects, but a thermal fuse also for added protection. I have been finding the thermal fuses a bit hard to work with as I have burned out a couple just with the heat of the soldering iron. They are good added protection though.

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                            I find it crazy that in all the googling I have been doing on these, I have not found ONE review of how well they work or don't. The claim is that they are a replacement for the HLK-PM01 modules.
                            0_1497566454517_upload-a7b7ea51-e26b-43a8-a3f8-4428d9f13192

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                              I find it crazy that in all the googling I have been doing on these, I have not found ONE review of how well they work or don't. The claim is that they are a replacement for the HLK-PM01 modules.
                              0_1497566454517_upload-a7b7ea51-e26b-43a8-a3f8-4428d9f13192

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                              @dbemowsk said in Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??:

                              I have not found ONE review of how well they work or don't.

                              How good is your Russian? https://youtu.be/qnk4jksXdO4

                              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                              • YveauxY Yveaux

                                @dbemowsk said in Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??:

                                I have not found ONE review of how well they work or don't.

                                How good is your Russian? https://youtu.be/qnk4jksXdO4

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                                dbemowsk
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                                #387

                                @Yveaux I skipped that class in grade school......LOL

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                                • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                                  @Yveaux I skipped that class in grade school......LOL

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                                  @dbemowsk this is a good review - go ahead and try them

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                                    @dbemowsk this is a good review - go ahead and try them

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                                    #389

                                    @alexsh1 Thanks, they are a bit cheaper than the HLK-PM01s and they appear to be a pin compatible replacement for them.

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                                      #390

                                      Hi all,

                                      I have used MEAN WELL IRM-10-5, 5V/2A/10W for some of my projects, since they were available in my local store. They are ok, robust, good quality.
                                      But as they are much bigger, 10W and cost me 7,5 EUR per piece I wanted to try HLKs for some projects.
                                      This was my 1st order of HLKs. As I had no experience and wanted to avoid fakes I used ebay link from Power Sources at MySensors Store, this one:
                                      http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574962087&toolid=10001&campid=5337834143&customid=nodebb&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F261985573055
                                      BTW it is the same seller and store as mentioned by some other members here on forum.

                                      I was impatiently waiting for them. Finally yeasterday (after 3 weeks) I found the package on my desk. First look when I unpacked it indicates something is not ok. Came back to this thread to see how to check the fakes ... unpleasant findings ... poor enclosure, thinner pins, every at different lenghts, non blocking mechanism on pins, no quality labels, no bar codes, no dot mark on top, different markings on top...
                                      These ones look much worse as I could even expect from fakes:
                                      0_1510045901431_IMG_7587-001.jpg
                                      3_1510045929288_IMG_7585-001.jpg 2_1510045929288_IMG_7584-001.jpg 1_1510045929288_IMG_7583-001.jpg 0_1510045929288_IMG_7579-001.jpg

                                      Please can somebody more experienced with HLKs recommend really reliable source where to buy the right modules?

                                      Thanks
                                      Pete

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                                        Hi all,

                                        I have used MEAN WELL IRM-10-5, 5V/2A/10W for some of my projects, since they were available in my local store. They are ok, robust, good quality.
                                        But as they are much bigger, 10W and cost me 7,5 EUR per piece I wanted to try HLKs for some projects.
                                        This was my 1st order of HLKs. As I had no experience and wanted to avoid fakes I used ebay link from Power Sources at MySensors Store, this one:
                                        http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574962087&toolid=10001&campid=5337834143&customid=nodebb&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F261985573055
                                        BTW it is the same seller and store as mentioned by some other members here on forum.

                                        I was impatiently waiting for them. Finally yeasterday (after 3 weeks) I found the package on my desk. First look when I unpacked it indicates something is not ok. Came back to this thread to see how to check the fakes ... unpleasant findings ... poor enclosure, thinner pins, every at different lenghts, non blocking mechanism on pins, no quality labels, no bar codes, no dot mark on top, different markings on top...
                                        These ones look much worse as I could even expect from fakes:
                                        0_1510045901431_IMG_7587-001.jpg
                                        3_1510045929288_IMG_7585-001.jpg 2_1510045929288_IMG_7584-001.jpg 1_1510045929288_IMG_7583-001.jpg 0_1510045929288_IMG_7579-001.jpg

                                        Please can somebody more experienced with HLKs recommend really reliable source where to buy the right modules?

                                        Thanks
                                        Pete

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                                        #391

                                        @Pete357 said in Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??:

                                        Please can somebody more experienced with HLKs recommend really reliable source where to buy the right modules?

                                        To be sure you get genuine module buy it directly from the vendor:
                                        http://www.hlktech.net/product.php?CateId=10

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                                        • ferroF ferro

                                          @Pete357 said in Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??:

                                          Please can somebody more experienced with HLKs recommend really reliable source where to buy the right modules?

                                          To be sure you get genuine module buy it directly from the vendor:
                                          http://www.hlktech.net/product.php?CateId=10

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                                          Pete357
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                                          #392

                                          @ferro Thank you, didnt know they have own eshop. I should have been looking for it before.
                                          I suggest to put this link into MySensors Store instead of that ebay link, for others looking where to buy it and not to make the same mistake as I did.

                                          Thanks
                                          Pete

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