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Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??

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  • dbemowskD Offline
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    dbemowsk
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    #379

    Someone here had passed the TSP-05 over to someone to review. I think they had asked one of the guys that did reviews of the HLK-PM01. Has anyone got a link to a review on these or can give their thoughts after using one?
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TSP-05-replace-HLK-PM01-AC-DC-220V-to-5V-mini-power-supply-module-intelligent-household/32717871230.html?spm=2114.12010108.1000013.3.NDXqMR&scm=1007.13339.33317.0&pvid=e2a30af8-7732-428d-9a22-9a5def1f73cd&tpp=1

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    • ferroF ferro

      Hi all,

      Just by looking at previously mentioned link at Skippy's blog about Quick look at the hlk-pm01 I found he has recently posted next part - Revisiting the hlk-pm01. I think it is worth to read, dealing with resp. how to improve conducted emission of hlk-pm01.

      Also there is a some recommendation to use VIGORTRONIX VTX-214-005-105 AC/DC PCB Mount Power Supply (Farnell #2401040). Not sure if someone is already using it in his projects.

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      DavidZH
      wrote on last edited by
      #380

      @ferro I've looked into thos Vigortonix devices. Those are nice! Unfortunately they're bigger than the HLK's.

      But for the dimmer designers under us: they have miniature power supplies with built-in zero cross detectors! Looks very interesting!

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      • dpressleD Offline
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        dpressle
        wrote on last edited by
        #381

        what do you guys say about this PSU? i really liked that the mains are separated much more then the HLK.
        And how is the suggested full circuit use they have:
        0_1491802881073_upload-7646dbcb-7521-420a-9726-966b93b98d34

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        • K Offline
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          ksya
          wrote on last edited by
          #382

          Is using a genuine HLK-PM01 safe when directly connected to mains? I see here that they used extra components for safety.

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          • MiKaM Offline
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            MiKa
            wrote on last edited by
            #383

            Hi,
            Varistor and fuse is always good to use as a protection ;)
            Its lot of cases of start the fire in house from cheap AC/DC converters.
            Regards,
            MiKa

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            • dbemowskD Offline
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              wrote on last edited by
              #384

              I have not only been adding a standard 0.75 amp fuse and MOV in my projects, but a thermal fuse also for added protection. I have been finding the thermal fuses a bit hard to work with as I have burned out a couple just with the heat of the soldering iron. They are good added protection though.

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              • dbemowskD Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #385

                I find it crazy that in all the googling I have been doing on these, I have not found ONE review of how well they work or don't. The claim is that they are a replacement for the HLK-PM01 modules.
                0_1497566454517_upload-a7b7ea51-e26b-43a8-a3f8-4428d9f13192

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                • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                  I find it crazy that in all the googling I have been doing on these, I have not found ONE review of how well they work or don't. The claim is that they are a replacement for the HLK-PM01 modules.
                  0_1497566454517_upload-a7b7ea51-e26b-43a8-a3f8-4428d9f13192

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #386

                  @dbemowsk said in Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??:

                  I have not found ONE review of how well they work or don't.

                  How good is your Russian? https://youtu.be/qnk4jksXdO4

                  http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                  • YveauxY Yveaux

                    @dbemowsk said in Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??:

                    I have not found ONE review of how well they work or don't.

                    How good is your Russian? https://youtu.be/qnk4jksXdO4

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                    dbemowsk
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #387

                    @Yveaux I skipped that class in grade school......LOL

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                    • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                      @Yveaux I skipped that class in grade school......LOL

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                      #388

                      @dbemowsk this is a good review - go ahead and try them

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                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                        @dbemowsk this is a good review - go ahead and try them

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                        dbemowsk
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #389

                        @alexsh1 Thanks, they are a bit cheaper than the HLK-PM01s and they appear to be a pin compatible replacement for them.

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                          #390

                          Hi all,

                          I have used MEAN WELL IRM-10-5, 5V/2A/10W for some of my projects, since they were available in my local store. They are ok, robust, good quality.
                          But as they are much bigger, 10W and cost me 7,5 EUR per piece I wanted to try HLKs for some projects.
                          This was my 1st order of HLKs. As I had no experience and wanted to avoid fakes I used ebay link from Power Sources at MySensors Store, this one:
                          http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574962087&toolid=10001&campid=5337834143&customid=nodebb&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F261985573055
                          BTW it is the same seller and store as mentioned by some other members here on forum.

                          I was impatiently waiting for them. Finally yeasterday (after 3 weeks) I found the package on my desk. First look when I unpacked it indicates something is not ok. Came back to this thread to see how to check the fakes ... unpleasant findings ... poor enclosure, thinner pins, every at different lenghts, non blocking mechanism on pins, no quality labels, no bar codes, no dot mark on top, different markings on top...
                          These ones look much worse as I could even expect from fakes:
                          0_1510045901431_IMG_7587-001.jpg
                          3_1510045929288_IMG_7585-001.jpg 2_1510045929288_IMG_7584-001.jpg 1_1510045929288_IMG_7583-001.jpg 0_1510045929288_IMG_7579-001.jpg

                          Please can somebody more experienced with HLKs recommend really reliable source where to buy the right modules?

                          Thanks
                          Pete

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                          • P Pete357

                            Hi all,

                            I have used MEAN WELL IRM-10-5, 5V/2A/10W for some of my projects, since they were available in my local store. They are ok, robust, good quality.
                            But as they are much bigger, 10W and cost me 7,5 EUR per piece I wanted to try HLKs for some projects.
                            This was my 1st order of HLKs. As I had no experience and wanted to avoid fakes I used ebay link from Power Sources at MySensors Store, this one:
                            http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574962087&toolid=10001&campid=5337834143&customid=nodebb&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F261985573055
                            BTW it is the same seller and store as mentioned by some other members here on forum.

                            I was impatiently waiting for them. Finally yeasterday (after 3 weeks) I found the package on my desk. First look when I unpacked it indicates something is not ok. Came back to this thread to see how to check the fakes ... unpleasant findings ... poor enclosure, thinner pins, every at different lenghts, non blocking mechanism on pins, no quality labels, no bar codes, no dot mark on top, different markings on top...
                            These ones look much worse as I could even expect from fakes:
                            0_1510045901431_IMG_7587-001.jpg
                            3_1510045929288_IMG_7585-001.jpg 2_1510045929288_IMG_7584-001.jpg 1_1510045929288_IMG_7583-001.jpg 0_1510045929288_IMG_7579-001.jpg

                            Please can somebody more experienced with HLKs recommend really reliable source where to buy the right modules?

                            Thanks
                            Pete

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                            ferro
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #391

                            @Pete357 said in Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??:

                            Please can somebody more experienced with HLKs recommend really reliable source where to buy the right modules?

                            To be sure you get genuine module buy it directly from the vendor:
                            http://www.hlktech.net/product.php?CateId=10

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                            • ferroF ferro

                              @Pete357 said in Safe In-Wall AC to DC Transformers??:

                              Please can somebody more experienced with HLKs recommend really reliable source where to buy the right modules?

                              To be sure you get genuine module buy it directly from the vendor:
                              http://www.hlktech.net/product.php?CateId=10

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                              Pete357
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #392

                              @ferro Thank you, didnt know they have own eshop. I should have been looking for it before.
                              I suggest to put this link into MySensors Store instead of that ebay link, for others looking where to buy it and not to make the same mistake as I did.

                              Thanks
                              Pete

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                              • P Pete357

                                @ferro Thank you, didnt know they have own eshop. I should have been looking for it before.
                                I suggest to put this link into MySensors Store instead of that ebay link, for others looking where to buy it and not to make the same mistake as I did.

                                Thanks
                                Pete

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                                Nca78
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #393

                                Very ugly modules indeed, I'm not familiar with ebay but you should have some sort of buyer protection ?
                                I could easily get money back on Aliexpress with mines that were looking better, so on ebay it should not be a problem.

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                                • P Pete357

                                  Hi all,

                                  I have used MEAN WELL IRM-10-5, 5V/2A/10W for some of my projects, since they were available in my local store. They are ok, robust, good quality.
                                  But as they are much bigger, 10W and cost me 7,5 EUR per piece I wanted to try HLKs for some projects.
                                  This was my 1st order of HLKs. As I had no experience and wanted to avoid fakes I used ebay link from Power Sources at MySensors Store, this one:
                                  http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574962087&toolid=10001&campid=5337834143&customid=nodebb&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F261985573055
                                  BTW it is the same seller and store as mentioned by some other members here on forum.

                                  I was impatiently waiting for them. Finally yeasterday (after 3 weeks) I found the package on my desk. First look when I unpacked it indicates something is not ok. Came back to this thread to see how to check the fakes ... unpleasant findings ... poor enclosure, thinner pins, every at different lenghts, non blocking mechanism on pins, no quality labels, no bar codes, no dot mark on top, different markings on top...
                                  These ones look much worse as I could even expect from fakes:
                                  0_1510045901431_IMG_7587-001.jpg
                                  3_1510045929288_IMG_7585-001.jpg 2_1510045929288_IMG_7584-001.jpg 1_1510045929288_IMG_7583-001.jpg 0_1510045929288_IMG_7579-001.jpg

                                  Please can somebody more experienced with HLKs recommend really reliable source where to buy the right modules?

                                  Thanks
                                  Pete

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                                  dbemowsk
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #394

                                  @Pete357 I had an issue with some modules that I bought that were not packed well. When they arrived, I had one or two that had at least one pin bent nearly all the way over. Some had case damage that was slight, but still usable. I contacted the seller and got half my money back. I tested all the modules and they all functioned properly. I use MOVs and fuses on the input power, so I figure I should be pretty protected in the event of a failure. I am not pushing them anywhere near the limits either. Do what you feel is necessary for your case though.

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                                    Admin
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #395

                                    Ok, removed the ebay link from the buying guide. If someone finds an alternative ebay seller with genuine modules, let me know.

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #396

                                      Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I bought them from that link. Never the less, it sounds like those are not genuine.

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                                        matz
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                                        #397

                                        Hi Guys,

                                        What a huge topic :)

                                        Has anyone tested this 3,2 $ module ? Do you think it is safe to put it in the wall socket ?

                                        AC-DC Isolated AC 110V / 220V To DC 5V 600mA Constant Voltage Switch Power Supply Converter Module

                                        In the comments on guy disassembled it :

                                        alt text

                                        alt text
                                        Regards

                                        Matz

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                                          Hi Guys,

                                          What a huge topic :)

                                          Has anyone tested this 3,2 $ module ? Do you think it is safe to put it in the wall socket ?

                                          AC-DC Isolated AC 110V / 220V To DC 5V 600mA Constant Voltage Switch Power Supply Converter Module

                                          In the comments on guy disassembled it :

                                          alt text

                                          alt text
                                          Regards

                                          Matz

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                                          @matz why not use the HLK-PM01 that is known to be safe?

                                          http://www.hlktech.net/product_detail.php?ProId=54

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