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My Slim 2AA Battery Node

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    @m26872
    200pcs!! What the heck are you up to?

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    • m26872M m26872

      @AWI Great idea with the strips! And thanks for verifying (v1.2?).

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      #38

      @m26872 I think I used version 1.1? Did you change any of the wiring in the newer versions?

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        @m26872
        200pcs!! What the heck are you up to?

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        @hek
        hehe, I had a hunch it'd be spectacular. Let's just say that I aim to have a few single sensor/purpose sleeping nodes, but probably not 200. At least not in a while.

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          @m26872 I think I used version 1.1? Did you change any of the wiring in the newer versions?

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          @AWI Ops sorry, I meant v1.0. I see the larger pads in your pics. The routing is a little different to 1.2 and 1.4. Mostly related components under the uC.

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            Very nice design. Any video on installation of bootloader with various settings described in the original post?.

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              Very nice design. Any video on installation of bootloader with various settings described in the original post?.

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              #42

              @ar91 Thx. Sorry no. I don't know of any and I'm too shy to do it myself.

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                Great idea using this housing.

                Why didn't you use CR batteries to decrease size ?
                http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/CR1220/P033-ND/269740

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                  2AA batteries have approximately 2000mAh capacity. CR1220 has 35mAh. So for the same capacity, more than 50 CR1220 would be needed. That wouldn't save space :)
                  But CR1220 has lower self-discharge so they can be a good alternative for things that are really low-power, or don't need long battery life.

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                  • ahmedadelhosniA ahmedadelhosni

                    Great idea using this housing.

                    Why didn't you use CR batteries to decrease size ?
                    http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/CR1220/P033-ND/269740

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                    @ahmedadelhosni I've read a few reports from people with radio module issues after some time on CR "coin cell" batteries. The expected battery life time then doesn't match the result. I think you can find references by searching.

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                      m26872, I just wanted to say thank you for your work on this project and for sharing it with everybody. :+1:
                      I've just ordered the ATMEGAs to build 5 nodes.
                      How confident are you about the V1.4 PCB ? If you don't see any issue with them at this point I think I'll take the whopping $14 risk :yum:

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                        Aha..now I understood the reason. Thanks

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                          m26872, I just wanted to say thank you for your work on this project and for sharing it with everybody. :+1:
                          I've just ordered the ATMEGAs to build 5 nodes.
                          How confident are you about the V1.4 PCB ? If you don't see any issue with them at this point I think I'll take the whopping $14 risk :yum:

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                          @martkrui I'm not confident until I've tested one, but usually errors can be fixed with some ugly mods if necessary. ;-)

                          BTW I added to the info that any/every DirtyPCB money from this share will be donated to MySensors.org.

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                            Like the board and ordered it. Can you also post exactly the capacitor types? Keep up the good work.

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                              #50

                              I also ordered the PCBs (at my own risk) and some of "TMK-T20 20mm 17mm"
                              I'll try to CNC or 3Dprint some endcaps or something.

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                                Like the board and ordered it. Can you also post exactly the capacitor types? Keep up the good work.

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                                @betonishard There aren't any exact values or types, but good start would be

                                Near the radio supply: One radial electrolytic >=4.7uF >=10V capacitor together with one ceramic (range 1pF - 1uF. I use different.).

                                The rest (C1, C2, C3): 0.1uF ceramic, where the value probably matters most for C2 (the Reset capacitor)

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                                  @betonishard There aren't any exact values or types, but good start would be

                                  Near the radio supply: One radial electrolytic >=4.7uF >=10V capacitor together with one ceramic (range 1pF - 1uF. I use different.).

                                  The rest (C1, C2, C3): 0.1uF ceramic, where the value probably matters most for C2 (the Reset capacitor)

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                                  @m26872
                                  Thanks... Maybe it is answered, but I didn't quite catch it. 3v will be fed to the radio, but isn't the 3.3 important instead of 3v? I don't see any stepup. Is your range acceptible?

                                  Thanks...

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                                    The radio can handle as low as 1.9V (source)

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                                      I have had a node sending messages as low as 1.65V :-)

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                                        @mfalkvidd @GertSanders Thanks for your answers!! How about the range, I know it is depending on the quality of Chinese products, however can you give an estimate regarding your setups?

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                                          Short answer: Expect about the same range as a regular wifi card.
                                          Long answer: Look at these informative and quite entertaining videos:
                                          Ultimate nRF24L01 range comparison
                                          nRF24L01 range test (arduino)
                                          nRF24L01 range test part 2 (arduino)

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