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  • alexsh1A alexsh1

    @GertSanders - my idea to use exactly for windows. I was thinking about z-wave ones, but £32 a pot is just way too expensive given I need quite a few. How do you power them?

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    GertSanders
    Hardware Contributor
    wrote on last edited by
    #34

    @alexsh1 I power them similar to @m26872 , but with AAA batteries. They fit the 16x16mm cable guide by Legrand (which is a known brand for this in Belgium), available is most DIY stores.

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      Dombo71
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      #35

      Dear
      I ordered a few...:-)
      Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
      Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
      I hope i get you hardware working..

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      • Dombo71D Dombo71

        Dear
        I ordered a few...:-)
        Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
        Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
        I hope i get you hardware working..

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        alexsh1
        wrote on last edited by
        #36

        @Dombo71 said:

        Dear
        I ordered a few...:-)
        Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
        Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
        I hope i get you hardware working..

        @Dombo71
        You can find a few working sketches in the 'Build' section of the website. However, don't you have an idea what it is exactly you'd like to build? I would be useful to know before throwing any sketch.

        FYG DHT is by far not a favourite one for a battery use in my view. There are others - SI7120 or BME280

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        • Dombo71D Dombo71

          Dear
          I ordered a few...:-)
          Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
          Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
          I hope i get you hardware working..

          GertSandersG Offline
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          GertSanders
          Hardware Contributor
          wrote on last edited by
          #37

          @Dombo71
          What do you mean with "using less power"?

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          • Dombo71D Dombo71

            Dear
            I ordered a few...:-)
            Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
            Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
            I hope i get you hardware working..

            GertSandersG Offline
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            GertSanders
            Hardware Contributor
            wrote on last edited by
            #38

            @Dombo71
            Motion sensors are also not so low power and as mentioned before, DHT are power hungry. SI7021 is much better for low power/low voltage use.

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            • GertSandersG GertSanders

              @Dombo71
              What do you mean with "using less power"?

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              Dylano
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              #39

              @GertSanders said:

              SI7021

              I hope i can make a 3 in 1 sensor
              Motion / contact.
              temp and humanity
              Better should be a multisensor, with a lot of option so we can choose .
              The examples on my sensor are most 1 sensor...

              And then work on a battery[s] for a year

              Thanks for the SI7021 tip..

              Domoticz, with a lot of working hardware, include mysensors :-)
              OpenPLI, RuneAudio, Solarmeter, etc......

              Not a great builder of software and hardware, more a user...
              Only i try to do my best :-(

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              • D Dylano

                @GertSanders said:

                SI7021

                I hope i can make a 3 in 1 sensor
                Motion / contact.
                temp and humanity
                Better should be a multisensor, with a lot of option so we can choose .
                The examples on my sensor are most 1 sensor...

                And then work on a battery[s] for a year

                Thanks for the SI7021 tip..

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                GertSanders
                Hardware Contributor
                wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                #40

                @Dylano

                This board is not meant for more then 1 function.

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                • alexsh1A Offline
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                  alexsh1
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #41

                  @Dylano Have a look at this board - this would let you program via FTDI and connect several sensors.

                  http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2744/battery-based-atmega328p-sensor-no-smd

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                    alexsh1
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #42

                    @GertSanders How snug is your enclosure? I saw @m26872 used 17x20mm for his slim node, but I was able to find in the UK 16x16mm trunking, which I think maybe a little bit small.

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                    • alexsh1A alexsh1

                      @GertSanders How snug is your enclosure? I saw @m26872 used 17x20mm for his slim node, but I was able to find in the UK 16x16mm trunking, which I think maybe a little bit small.

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                      GertSanders
                      Hardware Contributor
                      wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                      #43

                      @alexsh1
                      I also use a 16x16mm cable guide and it just fits, the batteries are in batteryholders and therefor they stick out by 1mm. Without the batteryholder they fit perfectly.
                      The board is 13mm wide at the base which allows passing a few wires next to it. So 16x16 is ok for my narrow board.

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                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                        @GertSanders How snug is your enclosure? I saw @m26872 used 17x20mm for his slim node, but I was able to find in the UK 16x16mm trunking, which I think maybe a little bit small.

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                        GertSanders
                        Hardware Contributor
                        wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                        #44

                        @alexsh1

                        Here are some images of the very narrow node in a 16x16mm cable duct. The batteries are AAA type.

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                        0_1457556003354_IMG_7809.jpg

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                          alexsh1
                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @GertSanders - Thanks for photos. I have got 16x16mm trunking and just waiting for some spare parts. Will be posting photos shortly.

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                          • GertSandersG GertSanders

                            @alexsh1
                            I also use a 16x16mm cable guide and it just fits, the batteries are in batteryholders and therefor they stick out by 1mm. Without the batteryholder they fit perfectly.
                            The board is 13mm wide at the base which allows passing a few wires next to it. So 16x16 is ok for my narrow board.

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                            Dylano
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #46

                            @GertSanders

                            This option with a pir...
                            or a magnet sensor.
                            What is the battery live?

                            Domoticz, with a lot of working hardware, include mysensors :-)
                            OpenPLI, RuneAudio, Solarmeter, etc......

                            Not a great builder of software and hardware, more a user...
                            Only i try to do my best :-(

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                            • D Dylano

                              @GertSanders

                              This option with a pir...
                              or a magnet sensor.
                              What is the battery live?

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                              alexsh1
                              wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                              #47

                              @Dylano said:

                              @GertSanders

                              This option with a pir...
                              or a magnet sensor.

                              This is more a reed sensor. For PIR the size is just not right IMHO.
                              Given that it sleeps most of the time, the battary life should be excellent.
                              I do not know, maybe @GertSanders has got more comments?

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                              • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                @Dylano said:

                                @GertSanders

                                This option with a pir...
                                or a magnet sensor.

                                This is more a reed sensor. For PIR the size is just not right IMHO.
                                Given that it sleeps most of the time, the battary life should be excellent.
                                I do not know, maybe @GertSanders has got more comments?

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                                GertSanders
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                                #48

                                @alexsh1 with a switch (reed or mechanical) i see a consumption of around 5micro amperes in sleep mode. 2 AAA should last minimum a year. We will see as my node is only started last week.

                                A small PIR sensor is possible, see the "small AA project" and the mini PIR example.

                                http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2715/slim-node-as-a-mini-2aa-battery-pir-motion-sensor

                                No idea what lifetime to expect there.

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                                  TimO
                                  Hero Member
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #49

                                  I've just ordered a batch of these. Really cool, I can't wait to receive them. Thanks for the great work!

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                                    Bolliebol
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #50

                                    YES, my first is working. More to make. In my home now: "Big brother is watching you" Placed my first at the door of the refrigerator ;-)

                                    @GertSanders, you write:
                                    powering something with low consumption
                                    You can set both pins D2 and D3 of the processor to OUTPUT, do not mount the pull up resistors, do not activate the internal PullUPs, and by setting one of the pins to HIGH and the other to LOW you can power something. You will need to take care that a maximum of 20mA is consumed, as this is the recommended maximum amperage the pins of the atmega328 can drive or source.

                                    Sure not to mount the pull up resistors. But how do de-activate the internal PullUPs, and by setting one of the pins to HIGH and the other to LOW.

                                    Can you explain in "jip en Janneke/suske en wiske" language how to. With the help of this site I made my first one:
                                    https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3018/tutorial-how-to-burn-1mhz-8mhz-bootloader-using-arduino-ide-1-6-5-r5

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                                    • B Bolliebol

                                      YES, my first is working. More to make. In my home now: "Big brother is watching you" Placed my first at the door of the refrigerator ;-)

                                      @GertSanders, you write:
                                      powering something with low consumption
                                      You can set both pins D2 and D3 of the processor to OUTPUT, do not mount the pull up resistors, do not activate the internal PullUPs, and by setting one of the pins to HIGH and the other to LOW you can power something. You will need to take care that a maximum of 20mA is consumed, as this is the recommended maximum amperage the pins of the atmega328 can drive or source.

                                      Sure not to mount the pull up resistors. But how do de-activate the internal PullUPs, and by setting one of the pins to HIGH and the other to LOW.

                                      Can you explain in "jip en Janneke/suske en wiske" language how to. With the help of this site I made my first one:
                                      https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3018/tutorial-how-to-burn-1mhz-8mhz-bootloader-using-arduino-ide-1-6-5-r5

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                                      GertSanders
                                      Hardware Contributor
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #51

                                      @Bolliebol
                                      You need to use these instructions:

                                      void setup()
                                      {
                                      pinMode(2, OUTPUT);
                                      digitalWrite(2, HIGH);
                                      pinMode(3, OUTPUT);
                                      digitalWrite(2, LOW);

                                      // this makes pin 2 the "plus" side and pin 3 the "minus" side.

                                      // Connect your low power consuming thing between these two pins as if they are battery pins.

                                      // If you need to power off the device, just do

                                      digitalWrite(2,LOW);

                                      }

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                                        NeverDie
                                        Hero Member
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #52

                                        To anyone wanting to build this project: take note that it uses machine pin female headers to seat the mcu. Ordinary female headers won't make a good enough connection with the legs of the atmega328.

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                                          Carl H
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #53

                                          Hi, I have finally receive your narrow board.. I try with a Si7021 sensor (the GY-21 ebay version) and I have no success. But with your other board, because I have your 2 other board version (ac/dc board and the small battery one) it's working with no problem. The difference I think is the first board without external crystal. After reading in forum, I think with Slim board version, i'm not the first with this problem. Did you test your board with si7021 sensor, or can you give my a clue ?? Thanks

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