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  • GertSandersG Offline
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    GertSanders
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    @m26872 I found both SI7021 on Aliexpress.com

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    • GertSandersG GertSanders

      @m26872 I found both SI7021 on Aliexpress.com

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      m26872
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      #6

      @GertSanders Link?

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        emc2
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        #7

        Not SI7021 directly, but there are a lot of small sized I2C sensors.

        I use a BME280 board on my gateway and on a node.
        I also use a BH1750 (slightly bigger) outside to track plants sun exposure.

        If you end up with a design where the I2C bus is included I can definitively see a lot of uses for it!

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        • AWIA Offline
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          #8

          Another off-topic.. I use these bmp180 boards to power the low power nodes from a 4.1 volt rechargeable Li cell. The LDO is broken out on the connection

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          • m26872M m26872

            @GertSanders Link?

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            AWI
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            #9

            @m26872 Industrial High Precision Si7021 Humidity Sensor Module With I2C Interface link

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              Without LDO, but with pull up resistors (smallest board I could find):
              http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Industrial-High-Precision-Si7021-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32524005324.html

              With LDO:
              http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html

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              • GertSandersG GertSanders

                Without LDO, but with pull up resistors (smallest board I could find):
                http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Industrial-High-Precision-Si7021-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32524005324.html

                With LDO:
                http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html

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                m26872
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                @GertSanders and @AWI Thanks!

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                • Carl HC Offline
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                  Your plan is it to change your narrow board with SDL/SDA pad. maybe a jumper to change D2/D3 pin to SDL/SDA?

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                    #13

                    It`s a mess that the pinout of both modules is different.

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                      @Carl-H it's a possibility. No plans yet, other projects ongoing.

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                        I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                        http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                        (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                        If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                        • F fleinze

                          I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                          http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                          (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                          If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                          AWI
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                          @fleinze I would suggest to leave these as they are and measure the consumption. Removing the LDO didn't give me a noticeable difference. It could depend on the board however.

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                          • F fleinze

                            I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                            http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                            (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                            If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                            @fleinze I am using ATmega328 with 1Mhz and with LDO i have 15uA in standby mode. I have removed the LDO and measured 8uA. You should try it yourself.

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                            • F fleinze

                              I just received some si7021 boards from china. They are with LDO and level shifter, similar to
                              http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Si7021-Industrial-High-Precision-Humidity-Sensor-with-I2C-Interface-for-Arduino/32529522264.html
                              (the original offer went offline, it was from a reseller named "home boutique", no idea why they sold this item)
                              If I use them with a battery node, is it sufficient to remove (and short-cut) the LDO or do I need to remove the level shifter too?

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                              @fleinze I wrote a few words about it over here http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3049/slim-node-si7021-sensor-example/

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                                @m26872 @kenci @AWI Thank you very much for your answers!
                                I will go for removing the LDO but letting the level-shifter in place, because it is a pain in the ass to bypass the levelshifter.

                                Bypassing the desoldered LDO is very easy. Just connect the following point on the resistor-array:
                                0_1455974189828_gy21.jpg

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                                  @m26872 @kenci @AWI Thank you very much for your answers!
                                  I will go for removing the LDO but letting the level-shifter in place, because it is a pain in the ass to bypass the levelshifter.

                                  Bypassing the desoldered LDO is very easy. Just connect the following point on the resistor-array:
                                  0_1455974189828_gy21.jpg

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                                  AWI
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                                  #20

                                  @fleinze The 662k on this board has a typical drop-out of 250mV and power consumption of only 1uA... and takes care of a stable power supply. I doubt if there is any advantage in bridging or removing the LDO.

                                  662k
                                  0_1456149818998_upload-5b22a252-988a-4acd-b4d8-15be0500a58c

                                  si7021
                                  0_1456149758981_upload-6a1d2eb3-c0c8-4556-a701-7d2e5db8608c

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                                  • AWIA AWI

                                    @fleinze The 662k on this board has a typical drop-out of 250mV and power consumption of only 1uA... and takes care of a stable power supply. I doubt if there is any advantage in bridging or removing the LDO.

                                    662k
                                    0_1456149818998_upload-5b22a252-988a-4acd-b4d8-15be0500a58c

                                    si7021
                                    0_1456149758981_upload-6a1d2eb3-c0c8-4556-a701-7d2e5db8608c

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                                    @AWI What happens when the input voltage drops below 3.1V ? It seems the output voltage just follows the input voltage minus the dropout. I have not measured this yet, but I'm assuming this, since i have nodes working below 3.1V and sending temperature and humidity readings.

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                                    • GertSandersG GertSanders

                                      @AWI What happens when the input voltage drops below 3.1V ? It seems the output voltage just follows the input voltage minus the dropout. I have not measured this yet, but I'm assuming this, since i have nodes working below 3.1V and sending temperature and humidity readings.

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                                      AWI
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                                      #22

                                      @GertSanders No conclusive reading from the datasheet. I will do some measurements later. ..

                                      0_1456219785462_upload-af85eb98-f577-4011-96e9-ef35b5ef97bb

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