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  • alexsh1A alexsh1

    I would only update each time there is a first HIGH. Then the node goes to unconditional sleep for 30-60 sec - there is no need to send HIGH again or LOW. After 1 min the status in Domoticz for the PIR is cleared (LOW) and the PIR is ready to send another "HIGH" if triggered.

    Can Domoticz really adjust PIRs dynamically?
    There is blockly stript, which helps to process "HIGH" from a PIR, but I'm not aware how this can done dynamically.

    Clearly, you approached this as a programmer. I have a much more simplified approach. Maybe because I'm noobs when it comes to PIRs

    @scalz said in 💬 MyMultisensors:

    @alexsh1
    sure PIR state is 0 or 1. I'm not changing anything to this. But you can fine tune this.

    Do you mean you'll update each time there is a CHANGE ?? No intermediate state ??
    If so, you'll waste a lot of power in useless radio TX, mcu processing, depending on days and traffic. and your batteries won't last for long!

    When there are people for an hour in same room, do you update each time it triggers? That can be a lot of waste!
    Also why not allowing a blindtime before redecting?
    In days with lot of traffic at home for example. If you already know (or the controllers could adjust this dynamically too by custom commands) that a room will be busy. It's useless and will consumes power again, to send 0 if it will retrigger in just a few seconds.

    So i've done sort of helper for creating intermediate states with timeouts and counters, with user defines etc.

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    #123

    @alexsh1
    My domoticz installation does not resets Pirs after a minute or whenever. Are you using the PIR lua scripts or any other?
    By default it doesn't do such thing.

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      wrote on last edited by scalz
      #124

      @alexsh1 i have this option too (ctrl clearing pir state) i thought it could depend on the controller used, so i've tried to make something independant. And i like adding features like setting triggers max for a motion etc. But i agree, your way works too ;)

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      • Sergio RiusS Sergio Rius

        @alexsh1
        My domoticz installation does not resets Pirs after a minute or whenever. Are you using the PIR lua scripts or any other?
        By default it doesn't do such thing.

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        #125

        @Sergio-Rius either you have to use lua or there is a much simpler way to do it in Domoticz. Change type to "motion sensor" and then you have an option "off delay". Setup it to 60 seconds and PIR sensor will be off in 60 seconds. Very useful option and yes it is not enabled by default.0_1497139322273_IMG_5170.PNG

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        • scalzS scalz

          @alexsh1 i have this option too (ctrl clearing pir state) i thought it could depend on the controller used, so i've tried to make something independant. And i like adding features like setting triggers max for a motion etc. But i agree, your way works too ;)

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          #126

          @scalz can your controller adjust PIRs dynamically?
          What controller are you using please?

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            #127

            @alexsh1 i just said i have same option as you in my controller :) My controller is jeedom (french ctrlr)
            I've not done it yet (missing time), but i would use some script and scenario if i would like to dynamically adjust this vs some parameters.

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              @scalz How are you dealing with PIR? It is connected to D6 and D7, but sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR), CHANGE, SLEEP_TIME); can only be used with D2 and D3 or I am mistaken? Maybe you can share your motion sketch please?

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                wrote on last edited by scalz
                #129

                @alexsh1 I'm using pinchange interrupts. It is not supported in Mysensors out of box regarding sleep, if i remember, i made some change to my functions, but the lib has changed a bit. that would need i check the code and i have no time for the moment, and don't want to release something not up to date. will take a look later, don't know when yet.

                But if that can help, below is some parts of code, for enabling your irqs, and the interrupts routine. I think if you're using sleep from MySensors, it will return -1 if triggered by the pinchange, that's all. you'll just need to handle that in your sketch.

                ISR (PCINT1_vect) 
                {
                  if (digitalRead(AMBIANT_LIGHT_PIN)) 
                    irqLight = false;  
                  else 
                    irqLight = true; 
                }  
                
                ISR (PCINT2_vect) 
                {
                  if((PIND & (1 << PIND6)) == 0x40 ) {  
                	  myPirSensor.pirhCount++;  
                		myPirSensor.irqPir = true;  
                	}
                  if((PIND & (1 << PIND7)) == 0x80 ) {  
                	  myPirSensor.pirlCount++;  
                		myPirSensor.irqPir = true;  
                	}        
                } 
                
                /* ======================================================================
                Function: pirIntEnable
                Purpose : Enable pin change for PIR interrupt
                Input   : -
                Output  : -
                Comments:  
                ====================================================================== */ 
                void pirIntEnable() 
                {
                  // Enable pin change for D6, D7
                  PCMSK2 |= bit (PCINT22);  
                  PCMSK2 |= bit (PCINT23);  
                  PCIFR  |= bit (PCIF2);   // clear any outstanding interrupts
                  PCICR  |= bit (PCIE2);   // enable pin change interrupts for D0 to D7 
                }
                /* ======================================================================
                Function: pirIntDisable
                Purpose : Disable pin change for PIR interrupt
                Input   : -
                Output  : -
                Comments:  
                ====================================================================== */ 
                void pirIntDisable() 
                {
                  // Disable pin change for D6, D7
                  PCICR  ^= bit (PCIE2);   // disable pin change interrupts for D0 to D7 
                }
                /* ======================================================================
                Function: lightIntEnable
                Purpose : Enable pin change for OPT3001 interrupt
                Input   : -
                Output  : -
                Comments:  
                ====================================================================== */ 
                void lightIntDisable() 
                {
                  PCMSK1 |= bit (PCINT9);  
                  PCIFR  |= bit (PCIF1);   // clear any outstanding interrupts
                  PCICR  |= bit (PCIE1);   // enable pin change interrupts for A0 to A5   
                }
                /* ======================================================================
                Function: Light_IntDisable
                Purpose : Disable pin change for OPT3001 interrupt
                Input   : -
                Output  : -
                Comments:  
                ====================================================================== */ 
                void lightIntDisable() 
                {
                  PCICR  ^= bit (PCIE1);   // disable pin change interrupts 
                }
                
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                • scalzS scalz

                  @alexsh1 I'm using pinchange interrupts. It is not supported in Mysensors out of box regarding sleep, if i remember, i made some change to my functions, but the lib has changed a bit. that would need i check the code and i have no time for the moment, and don't want to release something not up to date. will take a look later, don't know when yet.

                  But if that can help, below is some parts of code, for enabling your irqs, and the interrupts routine. I think if you're using sleep from MySensors, it will return -1 if triggered by the pinchange, that's all. you'll just need to handle that in your sketch.

                  ISR (PCINT1_vect) 
                  {
                    if (digitalRead(AMBIANT_LIGHT_PIN)) 
                      irqLight = false;  
                    else 
                      irqLight = true; 
                  }  
                  
                  ISR (PCINT2_vect) 
                  {
                    if((PIND & (1 << PIND6)) == 0x40 ) {  
                  	  myPirSensor.pirhCount++;  
                  		myPirSensor.irqPir = true;  
                  	}
                    if((PIND & (1 << PIND7)) == 0x80 ) {  
                  	  myPirSensor.pirlCount++;  
                  		myPirSensor.irqPir = true;  
                  	}        
                  } 
                  
                  /* ======================================================================
                  Function: pirIntEnable
                  Purpose : Enable pin change for PIR interrupt
                  Input   : -
                  Output  : -
                  Comments:  
                  ====================================================================== */ 
                  void pirIntEnable() 
                  {
                    // Enable pin change for D6, D7
                    PCMSK2 |= bit (PCINT22);  
                    PCMSK2 |= bit (PCINT23);  
                    PCIFR  |= bit (PCIF2);   // clear any outstanding interrupts
                    PCICR  |= bit (PCIE2);   // enable pin change interrupts for D0 to D7 
                  }
                  /* ======================================================================
                  Function: pirIntDisable
                  Purpose : Disable pin change for PIR interrupt
                  Input   : -
                  Output  : -
                  Comments:  
                  ====================================================================== */ 
                  void pirIntDisable() 
                  {
                    // Disable pin change for D6, D7
                    PCICR  ^= bit (PCIE2);   // disable pin change interrupts for D0 to D7 
                  }
                  /* ======================================================================
                  Function: lightIntEnable
                  Purpose : Enable pin change for OPT3001 interrupt
                  Input   : -
                  Output  : -
                  Comments:  
                  ====================================================================== */ 
                  void lightIntDisable() 
                  {
                    PCMSK1 |= bit (PCINT9);  
                    PCIFR  |= bit (PCIF1);   // clear any outstanding interrupts
                    PCICR  |= bit (PCIE1);   // enable pin change interrupts for A0 to A5   
                  }
                  /* ======================================================================
                  Function: Light_IntDisable
                  Purpose : Disable pin change for OPT3001 interrupt
                  Input   : -
                  Output  : -
                  Comments:  
                  ====================================================================== */ 
                  void lightIntDisable() 
                  {
                    PCICR  ^= bit (PCIE1);   // disable pin change interrupts 
                  }
                  
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #130

                  @scalz said in 💬 MyMultisensors:

                  Thank you for sharing it.
                  I must admit, it does look Chinese to me. I have never come across pinchange interrupts so have to dive in to understand it.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #131

                    My sensor is now fully completed with all sensors and flash. I decided to go for 2450 battery

                    0_1498299022820_IMG_5438.JPG

                    0_1498299079412_IMG_5440.JPG

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                      Hardware Contributor
                      wrote on last edited by scalz
                      #132

                      @alexsh1
                      beautiful !
                      about pin change interrupt, that would be too bad, to be restricted to D2, D3 only :)
                      there are multiple howtos which show how to use them. mcu datasheet section is also interesting. not that hard, don't worry.
                      you'll need to clean the code above a bit to fit your sketch (variables etc). the counters on pinh and pinl were for tests, you can factorize a bit pir isr and use only one volatile variable for your trigger etc.

                      Have fun

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #133

                        Here's my first 5 multi-sensors assembled and they've passed simple hardware tests. Although I think I have 2 that have PIRs that won't settle down. Thanks for the design scalz!
                        0_1500541753297_Photo 20-7-17, 16 56 10.jpg
                        Now to write some firmware for them... Any hints?

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                        • CarywinC Carywin

                          Here's my first 5 multi-sensors assembled and they've passed simple hardware tests. Although I think I have 2 that have PIRs that won't settle down. Thanks for the design scalz!
                          0_1500541753297_Photo 20-7-17, 16 56 10.jpg
                          Now to write some firmware for them... Any hints?

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                          #134

                          @Carywin Wow, those look really great, please keep us posted on your progress.

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                            Carywin
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                            #135

                            I've been slowly poking at these boards and I'm getting somewhere with the firmware, I should have something ready to put out there soon.

                            In the meantime though I designed a quick snap-together enclosure that I'm sending off for "Dirty" 3D printing:
                            0_1501094332438_render.png

                            This is my first time using Fusion 360 and designing something for 3D printing, hopefully it goes okay.

                            I wanted it to snap together in two halves around the board and be as low-profile as possible, hence why the base plate only covers half of the PCB and is mounted by one screw only. I designed it around using a CR2450 battery. I might also see if I can find a small lens or light pipe to put over the lux sensor so it gets a better read on the light level in the room.

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                              Carywin
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                              #136

                              Okay, so here's some firmware I wrote for these multi-sensors: https://github.com/carywin/MySensors/tree/master/MyS_MultiSensor_revB

                              Note that I'm currently using MySensors 2.2-beta from the development branch, to solve the some other problems I was having in my RFM69-based gateway. This sketch should still work fine with the released version of MySensors but I haven't tested it.I'm still testing and refining things here and there, but it should be a working base for people to build from. Of course you will need to change the MySensors #defines to match your network and radio settings.

                              You'll probably notice that all of the sensors report under the same Child ID as a "Custom Sensor". This is because I'm using OpenHAB via an MQTT broker, so I don't really care if a certain sensor type matches with its provided variable types. If you're using a different controller, you may have to re-jig the Child ID/Variable types to match the known-working sensors on your controller.

                              PIR Sensor:
                              The PIR sensor is interrupt driven and will send a message when it receives more than 5 pulses in less than 5 seconds. After triggering, the interrupt is disabled for 60 seconds. If it receives fewer than 5 pulses then approx. 5 seconds after the last pulse it will reset the pulse counter. For the first 30 seconds after power-on, the PIR interrupts are disabled to allow the signal conditioning circuit time to settle. All of these values are configurable in the sketch. Note that I'm using GreyGnome's EnableInterrupt library, which you'll need to get from their Github.

                              Lux Sensor:
                              The lux level sensor will send a new reading to the controller when the lux reading moves outside a window threshold from the current reading, which is configurable in the sketch. It also takes a new reading after a certain period with no changes in lux, which is also configurable in the sketch.
                              Note that you'll need the specific version of the OPT3001 library from the above link copied into your libraries folder. I modified the library to spit out raw values and allow the setting of thresholds, so the lux sensor can do most of the heavy lifting with regards to monitoring light levels and flagging an interrupt when it changes. Note that when the lux readings are very low, such as around sunrise and sunset, the threshold values are fixed to prevent excessive lux sensor messages.

                              Door Sensor:
                              The D3 pin input is set to trigger an interrupt on state change, which will send its new state to the controller on each change. It's pulled high by an on-board resistor so the input pullup is disabled to save energy.

                              Temp & Humidity Sensor:
                              Temperature and humidity are read at regular intervals (default 10 min), and new values only sent if the they have changed by 0.1 degC or 1% RH. If a certain number of intervals pass with no change (default 3 hours) they will send new values anyway. This way the controller can expire their readings after 3 hours and ignore stale values, and you can get an indication that maybe your sensor has failed. The interval times are configurable in the sketch. I'm using the Adafruit SI7021 library which you can get from their Github.

                              Battery:
                              Once a day by default the sensor will report battery voltage as a sensor, and remaining capacity as a percentage using the in-built reporting function. The full and empty thresholds as well as reporting interval are configurable in the sketch. Note that the method used to measure battery voltage has a large margin for error, but that this can mostly be calibrated out. For this reason you'll see a VCC calibration value that you should set by measuring each sensor's battery voltage with a multimeter, and comparing with its reported battery volts.

                              WDT:
                              I'm using the WDT during the time when the code isn't asleep, with a timeout of 2 seconds. This should be more than enough to send all of the sensor messages needed each cycle, but I haven't extensively tested that. I included it because in revision A I was suffering some kind of unknown lock up that would keep the MC awake and drain the coin cell battery in just a few hours. Of course the WDT is used by the library for timing the sleep intervals, so it gets re-enabled each wake up.

                              Because timing how long an Arduino has been asleep is difficult without a RTC, the sleep time may vary somewhat depending on how many interrupts the sensor receives. Each time the MC is woken from sleep by an interrupt, it reduces the amount of time it will sleep next time by 25%. In addition to this, if more than 25 interrupts occur before a new round of sensor readings are taken, then the interval will be declared over and the sensors read again. These are crude methods for timing but so far it seem to be reliable in that the sensor neither sleeps forever nor spams excessively when receiving realistic rates of interrupt.

                              I welcome any input people have on this project and ways that this might be improved.

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                                #137

                                @Carywin
                                Good work :+1:
                                I will take a look when i'll have more time.

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                                  #138

                                  I was wondering why didn't you use a open drain comparator and you could have or-ed your outputs using only one MCU pin ?

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                                    because there was already enough parts on board, for power consumption and wanted to save as much as i could with this design.
                                    The prototype had it though, but i removed it because that was useless as there are more than enough pins for this on mcu.

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                                      good answer ! it's not a good one for those of us that are less 'code gifted'. but anyway good work for the design.i would have to study how i can get it to work in code.

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                                        Does anybody know of a neat way to get this board to operate below 2.7V?

                                        From some reading it seems like the Atmega328 chip doesn't like running a crystal oscillator below 2.7V, but should be happy running from internal clock source. It seems like this might cause problems with libraries or serial comms though. Does anyone have experience with this or can point me towards a bootloader that might work?

                                        So far I've had a couple of these sensors fail after 2 months or so with battery volts around 2.65V. I was hoping for at least 12 months from a CR2450, but some of these sensors are sending >150 messages a day so I'd understand if it was shorter than that. Still, 2 months is not enough I think, and I hope I can tweak something to get it to work down to at least 2.0V, which might squeeze some more time out of it.

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                                          Does anybody know of a neat way to get this board to operate below 2.7V?

                                          From some reading it seems like the Atmega328 chip doesn't like running a crystal oscillator below 2.7V, but should be happy running from internal clock source. It seems like this might cause problems with libraries or serial comms though. Does anyone have experience with this or can point me towards a bootloader that might work?

                                          So far I've had a couple of these sensors fail after 2 months or so with battery volts around 2.65V. I was hoping for at least 12 months from a CR2450, but some of these sensors are sending >150 messages a day so I'd understand if it was shorter than that. Still, 2 months is not enough I think, and I hope I can tweak something to get it to work down to at least 2.0V, which might squeeze some more time out of it.

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                                          @Carywin hello.

                                          By default the BOD is set at 2.7V so the atmega will enter a boot loop when reaching this voltage.

                                          You need to update the fuses to set BOD at 1.8V or remove it (but it's better to keep one, o
                                          In some rare case it could write data in the wrong place and mess with the bootloader code).
                                          It's also necessary to update fuses if you want to use internal oscillator, it is less precise but you just need to use a lower baud rate when transferring sketches or debugging and you will be fine.
                                          I also suggest you run at 1MHz as long as you have no heavy computing to do. From it humble experience with CR batteries I always have better battery life at 1MHz compared to 8MHz.

                                          Look for tutorials about updating bootloader, there's a topic somewhere here called "various optiboot bootloader's" with précompilés bootloaders at different frequencies.
                                          You just need to put the file in the right directory after updating you boards.txt file and you can write bootloader from arduino interface. Fuses will be updated at the same time.

                                          To write bootloader don't worry about a programmer, just go the easy way with Arduino ISP sketch (in examples menu) on a nano, connect as explained in the many tutorials on the web (but use 3.3V for VCC to protect your radio), select "Arduino as ISP" as programmer and you're good to go :)

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