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Is Vera still the best controller (to replace my failing Vera3)?

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  • hekH Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    @samppa said:

    It would be great to see the main differences and estimation of target audience as a summary table. Level of expertise needed, z-wave, zigbee support etc..

    That would be a nice addition. Please help us out to make a comparison.

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      Perhaps we could link to https://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/home-automation-controllers-under-400dollar-37r4y81h and add rows for MySensors compatibility..

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      • S samppa

        Perhaps we could link to https://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/home-automation-controllers-under-400dollar-37r4y81h and add rows for MySensors compatibility..

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        @samppa The MySensors controller list only has a small overlap with the 'socialcompare' list. We can start with a table which lists the most important MySensors aspects. Personally I am not interested how these controllers handle z-wave etc.

        Start a brainstorm on features?

        • Last update date / update frequency

        • supported S_ & V_ types (extensive, including special handling)

        • Node ID generation

        • Serial Gateway support

        • LAN Gateway support

        • Multiple gateway support

        • Ack support

        • OTA support

        • Heartbeat support

        • Hardware platform(s)

        • Web interface

        • Customisation

        • IFTT alike programming

        While typing this list I recognise that there are a few more difficult to quantify elements like : user friendlyness, experience level, customizability. Next to that I think there will only be a limited number of main stream controllers with extensive MySensors support. A few runner ups and a lot of niche players/ legacy.

        if the feature list is next to complete and agreed, we can start filling it.

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          Hello,

          that would be a good idea.

          To keep it simple maybe the table should just give some kind of "level" of support for MySensors ? For example something like "basic" (switches, temp/hum/... sensors, dimmer ...), "advanced" (RGB, HVAC, Ack, Heartbeat), "full" (all or nearly all features) so users can have a global idea of the level of support, then a switch could toggle the display of the supported message/value types ? As displaying them right away would make the table much more complex and probably confusing for a lot of users.

          Maybe also group the columns :
          "Gateways" column with "Serial" and "Lan" subcolumns
          "Interfaces" column with "Web", "Free App", "Paid App" columns
          "Customization" column with "Blocky", "Script"

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            Could this table be prototyped in a Google Spreadsheet, which can be edited online by anyone? Maybe that is the quickest way to experiment and find out what information should be made available?

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            • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

              Could this table be prototyped in a Google Spreadsheet, which can be edited online by anyone? Maybe that is the quickest way to experiment and find out what information should be made available?

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              @mfalkvidd My idea, anyone with some experience build the format? ;-)

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              • AWIA AWI

                @mfalkvidd My idea, anyone with some experience build the format? ;-)

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                @AWI I'm mainly a PowerPoint Engineer nowadays but here you go: <EDIT: Removed link, use AWI's below instead>

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                • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                  @AWI I'm mainly a PowerPoint Engineer nowadays but here you go: <EDIT: Removed link, use AWI's below instead>

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                  wrote on last edited by AWI
                  #11

                  @mfalkvidd We are getting off topic here... ;-) Thanks for your start. I have changed the layout a little (swapped rows and colums as I think there are more features than controllers.. and tried to incorporate @Nca78 's suggestions ( I'm more an Excel guy )

                  As I have only little knowledge on the other controllers I filled only the Domoticz colum. Shall we start a new topic when we have more than 10 votes to go based on this layout?

                  find it here: MySensors Controller comparison

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                  • AWIA AWI

                    @mfalkvidd We are getting off topic here... ;-) Thanks for your start. I have changed the layout a little (swapped rows and colums as I think there are more features than controllers.. and tried to incorporate @Nca78 's suggestions ( I'm more an Excel guy )

                    As I have only little knowledge on the other controllers I filled only the Domoticz colum. Shall we start a new topic when we have more than 10 votes to go based on this layout?

                    find it here: MySensors Controller comparison

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                    @AWI + @mfalkvidd good job.
                    Maybe you could add MQTT gateway support

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                    • fetsF fets

                      @AWI + @mfalkvidd good job.
                      Maybe you could add MQTT gateway support

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                      @fets I thought the idea was to let everyone add what they want. The document is editable.

                      @AWI should I delete my version of the document? Managing forks is a pain, especially when there is no system for pull requests.

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                      • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                        @fets I thought the idea was to let everyone add what they want. The document is editable.

                        @AWI should I delete my version of the document? Managing forks is a pain, especially when there is no system for pull requests.

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                        @mfalkvidd if you are ok with the changes. I

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                          I have removed edit rights in my document and deleted everything. Added a link to your document.

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