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Where to get legit nRF24L01+ modules?

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  • gohanG gohan

    @Bogus-Exception may I ask why are you using spi for bme280 sensor instead of i2c?

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    @gohan I already have the 3 pins for SPI in use for the nRF, so adding the BME was just one more pin. Simply conserving pins.

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    • YveauxY Yveaux

      @Bogus-Exception said in Where to get legit nRF24L01+ modules?:

      So far I've noticed on all versions of the legit nRF24 chips that the 'square' is actually 4 vertical lines, covering a square area, at the 'top left' of the chip.

      You cannot rely on the print of the nRF to distinguish fake from genuine. Nordic is fabless, so they use different factories to produce their chips, each with its own specific marking.

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      @Yveaux Fair enough. I won't rel on that, but did want to mention the observation.
      On a relatively side note, I got 4 SMD nRF24 cards from eByte, but can't locate any boards to mount them on! The holes are 1.27mm pitch, so I just ordered some 1.27mm headers.
      Has anyone grabbed a board to surface mount solder them at this pitch?

      "If you drop it and it breaks, it was good." ~ Mr. Lehr, my Electronics Vo-Tech teacher, on testing vacuum tubes...
      -Arduinos (UNO, Nano, Pro-Mini, Mega, ...)
      -ATTiny, ATMega, STM32
      -Geek Channel: https://www.youtube.com/TheSalesEngineer

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      • Bogus ExceptionB Bogus Exception

        @Yveaux Fair enough. I won't rel on that, but did want to mention the observation.
        On a relatively side note, I got 4 SMD nRF24 cards from eByte, but can't locate any boards to mount them on! The holes are 1.27mm pitch, so I just ordered some 1.27mm headers.
        Has anyone grabbed a board to surface mount solder them at this pitch?

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        @Bogus-Exception said in Where to get legit nRF24L01+ modules?:

        @Yveaux Fair enough. I won't rel on that, but did want to mention the observation.
        On a relatively side note, I got 4 SMD nRF24 cards from eByte, but can't locate any boards to mount them on! The holes are 1.27mm pitch, so I just ordered some 1.27mm headers.
        Has anyone grabbed a board to surface mount solder them at this pitch?

        What's the pitch on most other SMD nRF24L01+ modules? Is it also 1.27mm, or something else? I hadn't paid attention.

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        • NeverDieN NeverDie

          @Bogus-Exception said in Where to get legit nRF24L01+ modules?:

          @Yveaux Fair enough. I won't rel on that, but did want to mention the observation.
          On a relatively side note, I got 4 SMD nRF24 cards from eByte, but can't locate any boards to mount them on! The holes are 1.27mm pitch, so I just ordered some 1.27mm headers.
          Has anyone grabbed a board to surface mount solder them at this pitch?

          What's the pitch on most other SMD nRF24L01+ modules? Is it also 1.27mm, or something else? I hadn't paid attention.

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          @NeverDie Great question. Mine look like these from a post earlier in this thread, and they are the first I've seen that didn't have their (breadboard-unfriendly) pinout.

          alt text

          "If you drop it and it breaks, it was good." ~ Mr. Lehr, my Electronics Vo-Tech teacher, on testing vacuum tubes...
          -Arduinos (UNO, Nano, Pro-Mini, Mega, ...)
          -ATTiny, ATMega, STM32
          -Geek Channel: https://www.youtube.com/TheSalesEngineer

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            Not sure if it's what you mean, but for prototyping purposes you could solder them to generic 1.27mm proto-board, such as this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/6-X-8CM-spacing-1-27-universal-board-thickness-1-6mm-sided-HASL-PCB-test-board/32774106087.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.eD40xE

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              I think there are adapters to solder the smd version and make them 8 pin compatible or there are generic adapters that can change the pitch

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              • Bogus ExceptionB Bogus Exception

                @Yveaux Fair enough. I won't rel on that, but did want to mention the observation.
                On a relatively side note, I got 4 SMD nRF24 cards from eByte, but can't locate any boards to mount them on! The holes are 1.27mm pitch, so I just ordered some 1.27mm headers.
                Has anyone grabbed a board to surface mount solder them at this pitch?

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                #57

                @Bogus-Exception said in Where to get legit nRF24L01+ modules?:

                On a relatively side note, I got 4 SMD nRF24 cards from eByte, but can't locate any boards to mount them on! The holes are 1.27mm pitch, so I just ordered some 1.27mm headers.
                Has anyone grabbed a board to surface mount solder them at this pitch?

                You can use NModule, the footprint highlighted in red color in the image below is compatible
                alt text

                https://www.openhardware.io/view/364/NModule

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                • Nca78N Nca78

                  I received my Ebyte modules, not a warranty of authenticity but the nrf chip has a square instead of a dot like all the fakes I have been using until now. I have a few standard SMD modules and a PA LNA version, I will try to make some basic range tests soon compared to the SMD clones.

                  0_1501066269827_IMAG1842_1.jpg

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                  @kalina made these DIP-to-SMD-NRF24L01-adapter, but my need isn't enough quantity to buy the chemicals, pay someone to make a rum of them, or convince my wife that, "We'll sell them and make our money back!" :-[

                  "If you drop it and it breaks, it was good." ~ Mr. Lehr, my Electronics Vo-Tech teacher, on testing vacuum tubes...
                  -Arduinos (UNO, Nano, Pro-Mini, Mega, ...)
                  -ATTiny, ATMega, STM32
                  -Geek Channel: https://www.youtube.com/TheSalesEngineer

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                  • Nca78N Nca78

                    @Bogus-Exception said in Where to get legit nRF24L01+ modules?:

                    On a relatively side note, I got 4 SMD nRF24 cards from eByte, but can't locate any boards to mount them on! The holes are 1.27mm pitch, so I just ordered some 1.27mm headers.
                    Has anyone grabbed a board to surface mount solder them at this pitch?

                    You can use NModule, the footprint highlighted in red color in the image below is compatible
                    alt text

                    https://www.openhardware.io/view/364/NModule

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                    @Nca78 Not just the module (10 for $15, right?), but the page concept is exactly what I am doing these days. Built in flexibility where it matters!
                    You've clearly spent a lot of time at my stage of tinkering with this!

                    alt text

                    Little touches like PA pinout, etc. makes this cake have more icing then cake! :o

                    "If you drop it and it breaks, it was good." ~ Mr. Lehr, my Electronics Vo-Tech teacher, on testing vacuum tubes...
                    -Arduinos (UNO, Nano, Pro-Mini, Mega, ...)
                    -ATTiny, ATMega, STM32
                    -Geek Channel: https://www.youtube.com/TheSalesEngineer

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                    • Bogus ExceptionB Bogus Exception

                      @kalina made these DIP-to-SMD-NRF24L01-adapter, but my need isn't enough quantity to buy the chemicals, pay someone to make a rum of them, or convince my wife that, "We'll sell them and make our money back!" :-[

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                      @Bogus-Exception
                      I'm sure the Kalina adapter would be inexpensive if you purchased 3 through OSH PARK because the surface area is small.

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                      • d00616D d00616

                        I have received two of the red modules. This is an X-Ray image of the chip (montage)
                        0_1500731806314_upload-666b869a-0a72-4e85-9575-5e96bf143cee

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                        @d00616 I have to ask...

                        How did you create this image?

                        "If you drop it and it breaks, it was good." ~ Mr. Lehr, my Electronics Vo-Tech teacher, on testing vacuum tubes...
                        -Arduinos (UNO, Nano, Pro-Mini, Mega, ...)
                        -ATTiny, ATMega, STM32
                        -Geek Channel: https://www.youtube.com/TheSalesEngineer

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                        • Bogus ExceptionB Bogus Exception

                          @d00616 I have to ask...

                          How did you create this image?

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                          @Bogus-Exception said in Where to get legit nRF24L01+ modules?:

                          How did you create this image?

                          The image is created with a medical X-Ray machine.

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                          • NeverDieN NeverDie

                            Not sure if it's what you mean, but for prototyping purposes you could solder them to generic 1.27mm proto-board, such as this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/6-X-8CM-spacing-1-27-universal-board-thickness-1-6mm-sided-HASL-PCB-test-board/32774106087.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.eD40xE

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                            @NeverDie What I meant was, I don't have anything in 1.27mm, so now I've ordered enough stuff to keep my 2.54 and 2.0 company! :)

                            "If you drop it and it breaks, it was good." ~ Mr. Lehr, my Electronics Vo-Tech teacher, on testing vacuum tubes...
                            -Arduinos (UNO, Nano, Pro-Mini, Mega, ...)
                            -ATTiny, ATMega, STM32
                            -Geek Channel: https://www.youtube.com/TheSalesEngineer

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                            • d00616D d00616

                              @Bogus-Exception said in Where to get legit nRF24L01+ modules?:

                              How did you create this image?

                              The image is created with a medical X-Ray machine.

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                              @d00616 Yeah, but I mean, that image doesn't show detail, does it? I thought it was thermal/IR when I first saw it-like it was running.
                              First time I've seen this tried. Has it worked for other electronics? Is that image you posted what is usually expected?
                              And most importantly, how did you talk your dentist/radiologist into doing it?! :)

                              "If you drop it and it breaks, it was good." ~ Mr. Lehr, my Electronics Vo-Tech teacher, on testing vacuum tubes...
                              -Arduinos (UNO, Nano, Pro-Mini, Mega, ...)
                              -ATTiny, ATMega, STM32
                              -Geek Channel: https://www.youtube.com/TheSalesEngineer

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                              • gohanG gohan

                                @Bogus-Exception may I ask why are you using spi for bme280 sensor instead of i2c?

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                                @gohan Was this wrong? Is there a readon to change?
                                Ya kind of left me hanging there, buddy! :)

                                "If you drop it and it breaks, it was good." ~ Mr. Lehr, my Electronics Vo-Tech teacher, on testing vacuum tubes...
                                -Arduinos (UNO, Nano, Pro-Mini, Mega, ...)
                                -ATTiny, ATMega, STM32
                                -Geek Channel: https://www.youtube.com/TheSalesEngineer

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                                • Bogus ExceptionB Bogus Exception

                                  @gohan Was this wrong? Is there a readon to change?
                                  Ya kind of left me hanging there, buddy! :)

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                                  @Bogus-Exception I don't know, I just could not figure out what you were trying to achieve 😀

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                                    With the inability to get signal strength from the nRF24, I'm open to any suggestions to fairly evaluate the boards I've collected. Don't think the wife will let me spring for a spectrum analyzer... :(

                                    "If you drop it and it breaks, it was good." ~ Mr. Lehr, my Electronics Vo-Tech teacher, on testing vacuum tubes...
                                    -Arduinos (UNO, Nano, Pro-Mini, Mega, ...)
                                    -ATTiny, ATMega, STM32
                                    -Geek Channel: https://www.youtube.com/TheSalesEngineer

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                                      Well usually you could test how good they are by running a sketch that keeps sending data and, while increasing distance, look when you start getting NACKs on the serial monitor.

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                                      • Bogus ExceptionB Bogus Exception

                                        With the inability to get signal strength from the nRF24, I'm open to any suggestions to fairly evaluate the boards I've collected. Don't think the wife will let me spring for a spectrum analyzer... :(

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                                        @Bogus-Exception said in Where to get legit nRF24L01+ modules?:

                                        With the inability to get signal strength from the nRF24, I'm open to any suggestions to fairly evaluate the boards I've collected. Don't think the wife will let me spring for a spectrum analyzer... :(

                                        Somewhere in the other thread I posted a sketch for automatically counting packet loss percentages. That's the best way that I've been able to think of. Signal strength, bit error rate, and packet loss rate should all be very strongly correlated to one another.

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                                        • Nca78N Nca78

                                          I received my Ebyte modules, not a warranty of authenticity but the nrf chip has a square instead of a dot like all the fakes I have been using until now. I have a few standard SMD modules and a PA LNA version, I will try to make some basic range tests soon compared to the SMD clones.

                                          0_1501066269827_IMAG1842_1.jpg

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                                          @Nca78 where did you get the ebyte modules? From aliexpress they are charging quite a bit for shipping.

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